Ninae: In the United States more men get raped than women because of prison rape.
This is one thing I'm well aware of, and acknowledged, but also something I consider a separate subject, which doesn't have anything to do with or can be used to excuse or justify sexual violence against women.
I don't really know why you would even bring it up? Especially as it pretty much invalidates the rest of your line of reasoning on the matter (Homo-sexual rape in an all-male environment has nothing to do with date-rape in a normal setting).
You need to stop feeling sorry for yourself, it is sickening. Any man you don't like you can just cry rape and have them put away, you don't even have to look them in the eyes when you lie because the courts don't want you to be re victimized.
WTF and sorry? That is quite a serious accusation for someone who has never done, or even been near, anything like that. The closest I've been to rape was when a black man held me down in a bus-shelter just as a police car drove past and chased him away. Never "cried rape" in my life but in that case it was self-evident.
Naturally, it wouldn't provoke as much fear or other negative emotions in a man as it's not something that's as likely to happen to you. But you might, for instance, feel a twinge of empathy or anger at the injustice going on, even if it's with someone other than you, or even your sex. And before you say, it's not a racist matter, either, I dated a Muslim for a while and he licked my feet, and was what I'd call an exceptionally good person (And that doesn't mean I'm a narcissist who demand my feet licked all day, just an expression to show that he treated me exceptionally well and went out of his way to please me, etc. Well, he did and fair is fair).
But I still can't say I feel happy about living in a society where sexual assault of women is so commonplace it doesn't lift an eye brow. And I have to read things like "14 year old girl picked up from bus stop by 5 Muslims and raped all night". I'm sure there are many women/girls who feel the same, and frankly, I think we're entitled. Seeing something like this, of which we're bombared with, can make quite a violent impression on a woman's psyche. You'd think girls would de-sensitised to this kind of thing by now, but that's not necessarily a good thing, and you can never be completely de-sensitised to something like this.
There is a deep seated bias against men that men seem to play along with (spacejunk).
You can say the same thing about women, only in a slightly different way, and it doesn't really go anywhere so I don't like to go there.
Men use you for your body?
They WANT to use me for my body, and that's almost as bad. I guess you could say it's annoying like a man who can't get laid would find that to be annoying. How does even the prospect make you feel? Worthless? Unmaculine? Unloveable? Not that great at any rate, I'd wager.
But of course, this is of no concern to the opposite sex in general, as in modern life there's no compassion between the sexes and no willingness to understand, really (speaking of the majority).
Stop being a whore and don't go along with it.
WTF? What are you even insinuating? Did it occur to you that being treated, or given a role, as something you're NOT, might rub you up the wrong way?
These days you sure don't need to ACT like a whore or LOOK like a whore to be treated like one. Men are so desperate they will try anything just in case. You'd be shocked to hear some of the proposals I've received from crazy men (which they can all be when they're in heat). Like a man on the wrong side of 80 suggesting I move in with him for free to help out with household chores (and the occasional shower - I could probably be on his payroll by now). These things do affect how you see men.
Those cases are just laughable, though. It's the ones who goes for your heart and then (try) to play with it who are my worst fear. They don't just think "There's a slut I'll have some fun with tonight". It's more something like they fall halfway in love but can't quite live up to it or fall completely in love but disappoint me in some way. But most of all I feel bad about the state of humanity, male/female relationships in general, and for men just as much as women.
Men seem to divide women into two groups:
1. Worthless whory scum who are only good for one thing
2. The girl-friend type they can let into their heart
But this system doesn't always work as they mess it up, either due to their own paranoia, poor judge of character, or own cheating male nature (or because the woman is already ruined by past men or a problematic relationbship with men).
So it's not that guys see me as the whory type that is the problem. It's more that they seem to see me as an exception, or someone to give their heart to, or that has always been my role. But even despite that they manage to disappoint me. Especially when I look at men as a whole and how they treat women as a whole.
You are not a victim, you know how the game is played. What is stopping you from being more selective with the men you choose?
Because it's not as easy. Because I AM a potential victim and always will be, which can be traumatic enough in itself, as many women could tell you. And there are billions of actual victims worldwide. So it's not as if I'm in any way safe or in control of my situation, or that any woman is, and that is just a fact. You can preach "Focus on the positive" here, too. But this is a situation where focusing on the positive can't necessarily do much.
How many men have sworn they would never fall for a gold digger? It's not that hard to be fooled. Anyway, it's kind of sad for you that you can't seem muster up an inch of compassion for the opposite sex and just go straight for the jugular. Like there are no victims on the female side, or it's irrelevant enough (I know for some men having problems getting laid is more than excuse enough).
At least I try to understand men and can emphathise with them to some point, but it doesn't mean I'm happy living in a world like this, where I can't always feel safe or really loved by the opposite sex. And I don't see any reason why men should be happy to put up with any kind of abuse at a woman's hand, either.
Women pretend they are going to have sex with men just to get them to buy drinks etc. just as often as men pretend they want a relationship when they just want sex.
You say it like you feel it excuses date-rape or any aggression or anger for being led on that way (even if men should know how the game works) and that losing a tenner is the equivalent of losing your virginity to someone you love and has you convinced he feels the same. The feelings you are playing with are quite dangerous here. I know there are some male social retards who have to go through it again and again, but there are many woman and a disadvantage too.
What I don't like is living in a world like this. To be dependent for love, happiness, and pleasure from a type of being different enough to make it inconvenient, problematic, and at times directly painful. When I try to imagine how many have ended up dead because of this it makes my head spin. I don't have any agenda against MEN, more against nature, or whatever made us this way.
Why can't the sexes just be a bit more compatible or is that too much to ask?
You complain about inequality but never mention the inequalities that benefit you.
Inequality? Don't even go there because we'll never get home. If it was only diverse, minor inequalities it would be nothing to make a fuss about.
I complained about one gross type of crime which I see myself entitled to complain about. And that's the only way I see it possible to have male/female politics type discussions. You need to bring up one thing at a time and talk it through. You can't just steam right ahead with everything that enters your mind. We have seen again and again how that doesn't work. It just doesn't get through to anyone, it's been too over-used with no real solution coming up with it.
I kept to the sexual abuse angle. You were the one who started bringing up the whole male/female war-of-the sexes agenda, which will never be resolved in a discussion. Kind of sad and says a lot that a man these days doesn't have anything to say for himself about it and have to drag all of it he can think of into it right away.
Of course you never get anywhere that way, it's just a way to release emotions and was never designed to resolve anything or make anything better.
It might make you FEEL better for a little while, but at the end you're still in the same place, and it's all been a waste of time more or less (or men actually ENJOY conflict so maybe a little bit less so for them).
To the hypocritical scum that would label me erroneously as sexist: are the generalizations you make about men not the definition of such?
Not referring to everyone who doesn't agree with you about everything as "scum" might also be an improvement - someone else might like red rather than blue, one of your pet-hates, but might turn out to be wonderful in other ways.
So to sum things up - hearing complaints from women who suffer from post-traumatic stress after sexual assault sickens you...but the thought of the actual act taking place...not so much? How close does it have to be? Beloved GF? Mother? Daughter? Your own person?
If you read through my post carefully you'll hopefully be able to see it's not about sexism or man-hatred, or that's not the driving-force behind it. Well, I assume many enough, not all, I know things aren't that bad, will hate it (mostly men who don't see very deeply), but at least I'll hopefully speak for some females who can relate and feel their voice has been heard.
P.S. But too many men show a type of anger whenever these subjects are brought up which seems like it could only be rooted in guilt in some way (don't ask me how).
I actually don't think anger belongs in the context at all here unless it's on the victim's side, and men should at least be able to picture themselves in their place, if nothing else.
