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Benzos peak time of w/d from diazepam

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if i were to quit cold turkey, how long would it be until i felt the peak withdrawal symptoms from diazepam?

im not going to quit cold turkey, im still trying to taper, but im curious. i've been dropping my doses pretty fast, at 5mg per day, but i couldnt drop another 5mg today because the wd symptoms were starting to finally kick in.

it would be nice to know when peak withdrawal symptoms are for diazepam (roughly). i've been on it for like 2 months now. thanks if anyone has personal experience. i dont want to drop 2.5mg per week because it seems like i would only get more addicted, i want to get off ASAP. thanks again, -spectre.
 
i had to take another 5mg just now, i couldnt take it. hands are sweaty and my eyes are bugging out and i just feel depressed as hell.

looks like i have to follow the slow taper plan, i was hoping i didnt have to take this shit so long. i hope i get through this, either i do, or i lose everything (job, house, family time, just life in general) and start all over again. im getting too old to keep doing this, i hope this is the last time. alcohol, opiates, now benzos. i just cant control these types of drugs enough to not get addicted.

im just curious, are these withdrawal symptoms from a week ago dropping, or from the past couple days dropping, as ive heard withdrawal symptoms dont kick in until about a week from diazepam? does this make sense to anyone?
 
I think your best bet is to stay on your taper, and to use other drugs to help relieve the WD symptoms.

Antihistamines and BP meds would be a good first step if you go to your doctor. Misusing BP meds can have horrible rebound effects.

I would strongly advise getting a RX'd antihistamine, or an OTC one (whatever works best for you). On the days I don't take my benzodiazepine for insomnia I use an antihistamine, it works well. :)
 
i agree with cap'n heroin, since your use was short term, your goal should be getting off ASAP. you can use other drugs to help if needed, rather than upping your dose.

for someone who had been on benzos for years, i would recommend tapering slowly and not using other drugs.
 
Diazepam has a long half life and its metabolites linger for even longer ... I've never been through benzo withdrawal but I suspect it would peek between 2-3 weeks.
 
blood pressure meds? i have never seen a doctor about any of this, i brought myself into this position. yes, benedryl helped a couple nights ago but last night i gave in because it was 3am and i was wide awake (and i had no benedryl). i listened to 'dark side of the moon' twice and nothing would put me down, so i took another 10mg, i was out in 15min.

i am considering tapering real fast, and using -tons- of benedryl and opiates (bupe and tramadol). i would much rather go through any type of opiate withdrawal than benzo withdrawal. i can claim to have a cold or flu at work in opioid withdrawal, whereas benzo wd i cant even really function, and it would be obvious i have a drug problem.

also, i am afraid if i taper slowly i will only become more addicted to the drug. so perhaps i will load up on benedryl and whatever i can get my hands on. anything but more valium.

another question, could i stop using the valium, and take 2-3mg of xanax each day for a week or two and just quit that, as the withdrawal would only last a couple days rather than a long, drawn out valium wd?

one more question, if i dont use valium for a couple days, and just tough it out, will my tolerance drop significantly within 2 days?

it is very hard to understand this drug because of its extremely long elimination rate, as when i start feeling like shit it is probably from a dose drop from a week ago, correct?

what type of blood pressure meds would you recommend, cap'n? i doubt i could obtain these otc, but i could dig around somewhere maybe. also would flexeril help at all?

please anyone let me know what helps for benzo withdrawal. i've got benedryl and blood pressure meds so far on the list. i completely stopped drinking and that has helped a lot already as i dont wake up basically having a panic attack and take way too much valium.

once i remember quitting clonazepam cold turkey (2mg per day) and the wd symptoms were shitty, but lasted only a couple days. i was taking it for a month at least. maybe i should try that instead? maybe my body just can handle clonazepam wd better than valium?

otherwise, i will have to obtain more valium and drop very very slowly. that or i just give in, go ape shit, and see where god puts me.

exercise should help too, yes? it helped SO much for my pod tea withdrawal, it was incredible. i was taking pods for months and months and when i was 24hours after my last tea dose, i went on the ski machine (elliptical or whatever) and i could actually sleep that night! i still felt bad though, but it made a huge difference. would exercise help with this?

thanks for anyone who has been reading my posts and helping me on the forum recently. ive been gone a while, been a member for a long, long time. i actually had a user name before this even! thanks again to all that help. cap'n and bollweevil have some great advice, thanks guys.

note: today i have not taken any valium, i will try not to all day today. i just tooted 2mg of bupe and i might do more and more. just ANYTHING besides valium, at least maybe to get my tolerance down. tramadol does wonders but im worried, since i will be more prone to seizures. id almost rather have a seizure at work though than become more addicted to this. maybe i could even get workmans comp? haha

thanks again, spectre
 
oh yeah, last night my daughter was sick, and i gave her some cough medicine. i was thinking, would DXM help with benzo withdrawal? NMDA agonist, correct? i didnt take any but i was wondering if that would help? i mean its basically a tranquilizer at high doses. anyone heard or tried using DXM to help aid benzo wd? chug 2-3 bottles of robo (YUCK) instead of taking valium at night? id be zonked out im sure, pupils dialated, but its NOT valium. would there be any risk taking DXM in a benzo wd? i wish i could change the thread name to get more responses. oh well.
 
I took valium at 10 mg per day for almost a year and in september 09 started trying to get off of it. It stays in your system for so long that cold turkey is fucking impossible. I felt like i was having a bad trip and was on the verge of mental break down multiple times before I read up on benzo withdrawals and how bad they are. They can actually kill you and are in my opinion worse than any hangover or drug withdrawal I have ever been through times ten (and thats a lot). I moved to .5 mg of clonazepam a day and the switch was not well tolerated but after about 3 weeks i felt pretty good. I have now tapered down to .25mg a day and have been on that dose for the past few weeks. The hardest thing about tapering Benzo's is not just grabbing a handful of xanax or the like and taking a trip to relaxation land, a trip that resets your whole taper. That has happened quite a few times. Now that I have been miserable and powerless over these stupid things I finally think I have the will power to do it. Benzo's are a horrible substance to abuse in the long haul because the addiction is parallel to nothing I know. Dope sick aint got shit on this. I still intend to do OC off and on for quite a while. Strict Drug Regime keeps the Dude's mind limber. ;)
 
yes, no doubt. ive been in pretty bad opiate wd's and i never figured benzo wd could be that bad, i never really got into them until last summer. i was off an on, but i finally got hooked on the valium. and yeah, opiate withdrawal is nothing compared to benzo wd, and its so crazy how that is. opiates make me feel so damn good, where as benzos just relax me a little. seems like opiate withdrawal would be so much worse... not the case.
 
so BP meds, diphenhydramine and/or promethazine. so you recommend DXM OC4ME? it seems like a damn good idea to me after i grabbed a tbsp for my daughter last night. and melatonin?
 
What I am so pissed about is that I quit drinking cold turkey 2 and a half years ago and have fucked with every pharmaceutical opiate known to man since then. Then I start playing with xanax and valium without knowing/believing (denying that wd's from benzo's were that bad) and got hooked. THIS SHIT SUCKS! Once I am off of em I am never going back! Horrible horrible horrible drug. Shit 10 pills plus of x may make you feel like total hell for a week or two, but you at least come back. These are the one drug that have made me feel helpless. I am still mad at myself for getting into this mess. Best of Luck!
 
Get the 10mg melatonin, take two of those, get the 50 mg walsom (diphenhydramine), take 2 of those, take a shot or two of tussin or any other OTC DXM, and you will definitely sleep well. That doesnt make me feel hung over like benzo's do. Just taper off that as you can. Over the long haul the DXM is probably not the best because it contains a lot of acetaminophen in some mixes which can be hard on the liver, just make sure not to take over 3000mg in any dose, make your stomach hurt. Also try some of the purple DIMETAPP, good antihistamines and no DXM.
 
I'd say you have to wait at least a week to begin feeling bad. But i'm no chemist, what do I know, just my half-cent ;)
 
i feel bad today already. im FIENDING to take some valium, im gunna try and take today off and bring my tolerance down. but like i said, this feeling bad is probably due to tapering from a week ago, not from the last couple days, wouldnt everyone agree?
 
Yeah, the tapering wont hit you for at least a few days, just stay strong and avoid stimulants of all kinds until you adjust. Make sure you get sleep by any means because that is the best way to get your body rested and get the energy going. After a few more days you should stabilize and then you can hold for a week or as long as you need to muster the strength to taper again. Dont give up.
 
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