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PD's Big & Dandy Mephedrone Thread

The dividing line between empathogens and psychedelics can sometimes be blurry which is why we try to approach it broadly when it comes to these drugs. Mephedrone isn't really special in this respect so I guess that its not a valid reason to keep this discussion here.

Another thing is that when it comes to research chemicals there seems to be a common journey for the subject to travel: esoteric fantasies about novel compounds and discussion of current research being done is mostly covered in the ADD forum. When a compound escapes the lab and starts making the rounds to be tried as an actual drug for whatever purpose, bio assays are then discussed here. Many compounds have a complex pharmacological profile and do not escape their research chemical status that easily which is why PD is deemed a fine place to talk about it.

Again, for mephedrone this is untrue since it has been a popular drug for a while now, is banned in a number of places yet lives on underground (which is something unfortunate if you ask me).

The problem is to draw a line between similar compounds, ecstacy has its own forum but MDMA analogues can be somewhere vaguely between empathogen/stimulant and psychedelic. Is methylone an empathogen? Maybe it's not entheogenic enough and it has no place in PD either.

But, analogues of methylone or butylone or whatever may appear and get discussed in PD as a middle ground between ADD and OD, as long as it has research chemical status. Exotic compounds just seem to do it well here in PD.

I know this is a weak argument but it's like pulling a thread and unraveling the fabric.

For some reason I'd like this to be covered only formally but to have people visit OD if they have no specific reason to discuss the drug here.
 
thomas2laylum said:
it has since become illegal and i don't see it about anywhere near as much
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It's still insanely popular in my town. It's also one of top three most popular illegal drugs in the UK if I'm not mistaken along with Cocaine and Cannabis.

lucidproject44 said:
Hi. Anybody still post on here? I've been wanting to discuss the plant food mephedrone.
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Hi, welcome to Bluelight!

Anything imparticular?
 
lucidproject44 said:
Hi. Anybody still post on here? I've been wanting to discuss the plant food mephedrone.
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Hello and sorry for the misunderstanding. Yes we do allow discussion of mephedrone in here especially in the context of other research chemicals... but if you just plain want to talk about it, please visit this thread:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=540963

Mephedrone is not really a psychedelic so it sticks out of PD like a sort thumb, but what are you gonna do, cut your thumbs off? 8)

And, obviously, mephedrone is not plant food.
 
Alright, first things first. Hi everybody! :)
Well as this is the mephadrone thread feel I shall throw my thoughts in!
OK and just as a disclaimer sorta thing this is of course just my opinion, i do not claim to be a expert in anyway shape or form but heres my experiences anyways:
Ok well here we go, I have tried Mephadrone on several occasions and here is a breif summary of what I experienced/found:
1st time:
At a club: late at night maybe around 2am
ROI: Insufflated
Amount: Around 100-150mg
Effects:

Lots of stimulation, literally bouncing of the walls, big smiles, ENORMOUS increase in empathy, The poor girl I was with at the time must of thought she had turned into a teddy bear!
Big pupil dillation
very increased appreciation to lights & music
general trippy bluriness
Negatives:

compulsion to redose (VERY STRONG)
Slighty cracked out feeling towards tail end
Subtle but noticeable heart flutters for the the next day
Urge to smoke like a chimney!
urge to drink definatly increased
Other substances consumed: Vodka Redbull (large amount, was really quite drunk by the time I had consumed, silly I know but always seems to be the way!)

2nd time:
At a gathering (small, few friends)
Dose: 150-200mg insufflated
Effects:

Again tonnes of stimulation
Very chatty
Pupil dilation
Felt much more speedy this time, maybe the drink from my previous experience had contributed to the trippy sensation but idk really.

Negatives:

Again a jittery heart that lasted for about a day
Also had noticeable shakes this time which gave difficultly holding a pen however only lasted around 10-20 min
General feeling of exhaustion and fatigue
Definate mental dullness however was tolerable.
Urge to redose did not feel as stong (perhaps the drink from the first time was a factor?)
Felt a little dirty throughout the experience imo but I find this alot with 4-MMC, perhaps I have just been spoilt by always being able to get hold of good MDMA?

3rd time:
Dose: 200mg insufflated
150mg MDMA (oral)
50mg MDMA (insufflated)
Setting: House party (large)

Effects:

Found the 4-mmc to completly overpower the roll :(
Very very very stimulated (uncomfortably so :( )
Some hallucinations where present, nothing special though sadly.
Everything was bouncing up and down for around 1 hour

Negatives:

Huge fatigue, literally struggled to get out of bed, faded after a day and a solid nights sleep however
Mental retardation on a grand scale :/ Even struggling to count to 10 day the day after, inability to focus was even put off enough to attempt to drive anywhere.
Delirous from lack of sleep + stimulation, towards tail end definatly could see spiders in the corners of my eyes.
Stimulation was almost impossible to dull! Even after smoking 4 strong spliffs and drinking a few beers seemed to have little effect.
Jaw clenching was EXTREME worst I have ever experienced, bad enough for my jaw to still feel a little sore 2 days later.
Jaw clenching also lasted a LONG time and did not really subside until about 12 hours after last dose.
General cracked out feeling
Whole combination in general just felt abit dirty in all honesty.
Mental dullness lasted for around 2 days, big drop in short term memory but seemed to recover after that.
Some mild paranoia also ensued over a 2 day period but was not severe and easy to brush off.
Things still occasionally wobbled and shook in my field of vision, this lasted for around 24 hours
Waves of dizziness lasted for 2 days.
Also suffered waves of depression, however they where short lived and I am aware this is likely due to a depletion of serotonin.
The above combination is NOT recommended

Ok well there are my experiences! Overall I must admit I am not a massive fan of 4-MMC and actually flushed my remaining stash and have no intention of buying anymore.

Personally I think I will just stick to good old fashioned MDMA which imo feels much cleaner, and overall a superior and far better researched substance.
Also like to report that in all my experiences 4-MMC defiantly had a toxic feel to it.
 
Looking for someone very knowledgable on mephadrone to give me some answers. Iv been doing a lot of research and I know a low of people doin mephadrone very regularly and high doses because their tolerance has increased dramatically?

I'm new to this forum so I'm not sure the stretchier of stating doses are so please read my wall of text.
I also took mephadrone, the first time I had 2 'keys' (obviously I understand key is not accurate measurement) and had a very storm urge to redose, I then did 5 quite large keys as my re dose. That night I think I did at least 2g.

I suffered from severe depression anxiety for weeks after... Even more unfelt scitsophrenia and bi polar behaviours. Severely!! My depression hit so bad that I nearly killed myself one night I also had trouble breathing and sleeping. And my heart stuttered, I also felt drained of energy and thought I turned diabetic as my blood sue level felt low all the time.

I then wanted to stop taking it but carried on with a night I had just 3 keys (this was weeks after my first binge and when I was first depressed)

The next 2 times after that was when I started to become very!! Noticable of
My mind set and way of thinking. Very paranoid, angry, depressed and my brain control is weak. I can't control thoughts and 80% of the time these thoughts were negative. Actual voices in my head telling me things that were very negative and were either false or didn't really matter, like instead of my conscience talking to my brain. The other way round. My thoughts overpowering my conscience to very negative and dark thoughts, effecting obviously my real life.
The dosage the third time was maybe at least 1g and 4th <1g.
The 3rd an 4th dosages were a few weeks apart but after tha 4th dose is when all the negative side effects really kicked in!!!

I was craving some so bad even tho I knew it was fucking me up, my 5th dose was just 2 keys.

This is when my head 'popped' and all the side effects were at their worst. This is when I nearly committed suicide.

I think I realise now my dosage was far too strong to start with especially but this is because of the new group of friends I did it with who have been taking it for months, these high dosage binges where at a club then again to a house after party continuing into early and sometimes mid hours of the next day!

A lot of this group of friends really seem addicted to it but none seem to be getting same sever side effects just generic 'depression' but this is what worries me as they are acting like they are addicted to MXE (Iv been doing research on that too and it's identicly) one friend especially who can't seem to function through the week and has been found to take it every day some weeks and thinks its perfectly find and not addicted. While becoming VERY selfish and wierd, this person changes as a person after reaching a certain dose and just talks and acts joberish) not like the effects of cocaine like most get at these type of binges. Like craziness!

I feel I have only just recovered from my severe side effects whereby dosages have elapsed over a period of over 6 months!

I also feel like the negative side effects have came at a point in my life were I was very stressed, wether mephadrone was the cause of this I don't know but I assume it was.
I also am worried for my friends is there any way of helping them. And us this drug remotely 'safe' if dosed correctly? Is it just simply too high dosage and this drug is fine or is this drugged considered very dangerous as I feel it is

Could anyone give any feedback or link me as I feel I have done sufficient searching but uncle to fully recurve answers.

I have a party on Saturday and this shit is do addictive I feel like doing it even tho Iv only just recovered from what I can only describe as living on a dark cloud for months.
 
A big concern about 4-MMC seems the cases of extreme vasoconstriction. Which is the smallest dose that caused in the past clear symptoms of worrying vasoconstriction (tingles, blueish knees, etc)?
 
It's not really psychedelic gymstud I'd agree, but it can definitely induce hallucinations. When I was taking far too much of it a few years ago the hallucinations went far beyond the classic MDA type hallucinating there are more people in a crowd than there are etc. (if that makes sense), although I don't know how much of that was down to sleep deprivation / stim psychosis. Smoking lots of weed on it always seemed to bring this out.
 
We can't really host discussion of everything that can possibly induce hallucinations in PD because far too many substances do. Mephedrone is simply not psychedelic and it has been a very long while since it had 'experimental' status (discussion of experimental RCs tends to go in PD). The time has come to move this over to OD, maybe there it can get archived because timelines may conflict too much to be merged into their mega-thread.
 
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