☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Tripping Past 2020

[Deleted member 521610]

did a small microdose of mushrooms on this shilajit gonna smoke up a few joints when night fall comes

 

[thegreenhand]

does anyone here have particular experience with trying LSD again after a (somewhat) extended break?

i last used it at a dose of 300 ug + marijuana in march 2020 right as lockdowns started and had a horrible trip. full psychosis, screaming, trying to run away from my friends, etc. i've used mushrooms a couple times since at doses of 1-2 g and have had great times. just haven't brought myself to face lucy again yet...

i'm considering a dose of 10-50 ug. most likely alone in the backcountry. i am experienced in the ohio wilderness and will pick a route i know well. i am also experienced with lsd. probably about 20-25 uses in my lifetime. doses ranging from 10 ug to 400 ug.

the real tricky part is ofc going into the woods alone. i do it often already but with a psychedelic on board it's just another layer of complexity to plan for. but certainly not insurmountable.

my real question is about returning to the LSD itself. am i in for a harsh ride? will the substance be more gentle with me? i certainly have my sins to atone for but i don't necessarily see this as bad thing. lord knows working through these things under the influence can be beneficial.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

it will be okay set and setting but your going to face alot of shadows you were running away from the last time. Got to build yourself up.

honestly at 20-25 uses you are yet to even touch the depths of unconsciousness that lies ahead. So tread carefully.

i would call experience 50+ trips.

 

[thegreenhand]

it will be okay set and setting but your going to face alot of shadows you were running away from the last time. Got to build yourself up.

i'm definitely going in knowing this. but then again any trip to wilderness has its troubles and it's honestly what i've come to love about the experience

honestly at 20-25 uses you are yet to even touch the depths of unconsciousness that lies ahead. So tread carefully.

i would call experience 50+ trips.

that's certainly fair. when accounting for mushrooms and dmt i'm pretty sure i've tripped around 50 times. but strictly looking at lsd, definitely not

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

does anyone here have particular experience with trying LSD again after a (somewhat) extended break?

i last used it at a dose of 300 ug + marijuana in march 2020 right as lockdowns started and had a horrible trip. full psychosis, screaming, trying to run away from my friends, etc. i've used mushrooms a couple times since at doses of 1-2 g and have had great times. just haven't brought myself to face lucy again yet...

i'm considering a dose of 10-50 ug. most likely alone in the backcountry. i am experienced in the ohio wilderness and will pick a route i know well. i am also experienced with lsd. probably about 20-25 uses in my lifetime. doses ranging from 10 ug to 400 ug.

the real tricky part is ofc going into the woods alone. i do it often already but with a psychedelic on board it's just another layer of complexity to plan for. but certainly not insurmountable.

my real question is about returning to the LSD itself. am i in for a harsh ride? will the substance be more gentle with me? i certainly have my sins to atone for but i don't necessarily see this as bad thing. lord knows working through these things under the influence can be beneficial.

I'd keep the dose fairly low.
I went full on psychotic on AL-LAD about a year ago. I've tripped a handful of times since then I think, all was good until I took, admittedly a fairly high dose, DPT. I was straight back into the psychosis, with the same visuals and the same type of thoughts and actions but without the strong ego death for hours so I was kind of aware what was happening this time.
Slipping back into the psychosis felt so natural, I'm not touching lysergamides again as I feel like they always had a psychotic touch to them but I think less strong psychedelics shouldn't give that much of a problem, although I feel like once that border is crossed it'll be much easier to get there again.

When I do inevitably trip again, I'm making notes and alarms to remind me to take an antipsychotic if I'm hopelessly running around, talking to myself and just having a terrible time in general. That's under the assumption that I'd still be able to read and see clearly which I couldn't on AL-LAD.

I really never had any issue with a bad trip or anything of the sort and could go into every trip confidently and not being stressed, but that trust in myself is kind of gone now as I feel like psychosis or not is not at all in my hands when tripping. You'll see how it goes, it's very unlikely your brain would turn on you on like 50ug

 

[AutoTripper]

800 mics after a month break, a truck load of weed and kava. Was A trip guys.

No bad one.

I think I'm past bad trips. I reckon I've had more real style "bad trips" than most.

I did not really enjoy it, as it was extreme circumstance. It did help serve it's purpose though.

Really interdimensional, a right mind cracker.

Spectacular and awesome.

I have a realistic chance of further healing and recovery now.

The acid got me through another round in a ring, as it does remarkably when there is no energy to keep pushing. At the hardest moments in time 800-1000 ug trips, can be a lifesaver and door opener.

It got me through a back break with flu.

Many more atrocities.

And this time, it was vital I achieved my target. Making it safe to sleep, for the first time in 2022.

I did it. Just. Phew. Looking ahead now. The literal worst is surely behind.

That trip was nuts though.

I look forward to the next, in better time, mood and shape.

I think 600 ug next time. Easier to keep thoughts from looping.

Long Covid no 2 was confirmed yesterday. Came in November.

It's on paper, by measure, my biggest problem now.

Major nerve damage. Affecting mind, emotions, anxiety. Physically, sensing- seeing, hearing, feeling, thinking, being conscious is sharp, prickly, uncomfortable and tantalising.

The nature of nerve damage.

I had the same thing last year. But despite all, I'm in a very diff position now. The prognosis is much swifter recovery potentially.

 

[JackARoe]

^ Nice AT, I thought I felt the world shift in a better direction. Always doing the good work.

 

[thegreenhand]

I'd keep the dose fairly low.
I went full on psychotic on AL-LAD about a year ago. I've tripped a handful of times since then I think, all was good until I took, admittedly a fairly high dose, DPT. I was straight back into the psychosis, with the same visuals and the same type of thoughts and actions but without the strong ego death for hours so I was kind of aware what was happening this time.
Slipping back into the psychosis felt so natural, I'm not touching lysergamides again as I feel like they always had a psychotic touch to them but I think less strong psychedelics shouldn't give that much of a problem, although I feel like once that border is crossed it'll be much easier to get there again.

When I do inevitably trip again, I'm making notes and alarms to remind me to take an antipsychotic if I'm hopelessly running around, talking to myself and just having a terrible time in general. That's under the assumption that I'd still be able to read and see clearly which I couldn't on AL-LAD.

I really never had any issue with a bad trip or anything of the sort and could go into every trip confidently and not being stressed, but that trust in myself is kind of gone now as I feel like psychosis or not is not at all in my hands when tripping. You'll see how it goes, it's very unlikely your brain would turn on you on like 50ug

Yep I’m very worried about slipping back into it. But to be fair to the acid, the psychosis only started when I added in the weed to that trip. I was doing fine before. Jittery and excited but not psychotic. Then we smoked a joint and I lost all sense of reality

So I certainly will be leaving the weed out for this one lol

Yeah I would like to get my hands on some sort of trip killer like a benzo. I didn’t realize antipsychotics can work for that too though. I assumed the binding affinity of lsd would always be higher. Any particular drugs you recommend for it?

But yeah agreed I don’t think 50 ug would lead to anything crazy. And honestly it’d probably be less, more like 15-20. More than a ‘microdose’ but not even really into full psychedelic territory. Especially with the wilderness mixed in I wanna keep it low and slow.

Thanks for advice, I’m glad someone with similar experience could chime in.

I really empathize with this part

I really never had any issue with a bad trip or anything of the sort and could go into every trip confidently and not being stressed, but that trust in myself is kind of gone now as I feel like psychosis or not is not at all in my hands when tripping.

Lots of folks tell me that my experience wasn’t real, bad trips aren’t real, etc. and it’s very tough to deal with that from the psychedelics community which I once considered home.

So yeah it’s good to hear for someone with a similar experience of psychedelic induced psychosis

 

[AutoTripper]

Yep I’m very worried about slipping back into it. But to be fair to the acid, the psychosis only started when I added in the weed to that trip. I was doing fine before. Jittery and excited but not psychotic. Then we smoked a joint and I lost all sense of reality

So I certainly will be leaving the weed out for this one lol

Yeah I would like to get my hands on some sort of trip killer like a benzo. I didn’t realize antipsychotics can work for that too though. I assumed the binding affinity of lsd would always be higher. Any particular drugs you recommend for it?

But yeah agreed I don’t think 50 ug would lead to anything crazy. And honestly it’d probably be less, more like 15-20. More than a ‘microdose’ but not even really into full psychedelic territory. Especially with the wilderness mixed in I wanna keep it low and slow.

Thanks for advice, I’m glad someone with similar experience could chime in.

I really empathize with this part



Lots of folks tell me that my experience wasn’t real, bad trips aren’t real, etc. and it’s very tough to deal with that from the psychedelics community which I once considered home.

So yeah it’s good to hear for someone with a similar experience of psychedelic induced psychosis

Kava works brilliantly on LSD, and cannabis sepearately, combined, to really mitigate anxiety.

Calm and focus the mind. I struggle with daily cannabis use, without kava, to keep anxiety just enough in check.

But on LSD, Kava is very helpful.

It takes nothing away from the Acid.

I loved Ketamine on LSD so much.

Kava is similar there in ways. The anaesthesia, numbing, warming, mentally emptying feel.

It also is very good for nerve damage related anxiety.

 

[thegreenhand]

Kava works brilliantly on LSD, and cannabis sepearately, combined, to really mitigate anxiety.

Calm and focus the mind. I struggle with daily cannabis use, without kava, to keep anxiety just enough in check.

But on LSD, Kava is very helpful.

It takes nothing away from the Acid.

I loved Ketamine on LSD so much.

Kava is similar there in ways. The anaesthesia, numbing, warming, mentally emptying feel.

It also is very good for nerve damage related anxiety.

I do enjoy kava but never tried it with a psychedelic. I may try it next time I do mushrooms (make kava + mushroom tea)

Probably won’t be doing it on this planned trip though. I plan to be trail running so I do t think kava would be of much benefit there. And certainly not ketamine lol

 

[AutoTripper]

I do enjoy kava but never tried it with a psychedelic. I may try it next time I do mushrooms (make kava + mushroom tea)

Probably won’t be doing it on this planned trip though. I plan to be trail running so I do t think kava would be of much benefit there. And certainly not ketamine lol

Well, I used to requently early 2000's walk my amazing stone deaf chihuaha/jack russel cross, off lead, but under the closest control, by eye, body language, hand signals, and facial.

It was hilarious. She runs ahead. So far, not too far. Right sprinting machine all walk she was. Josie!

But she was clever. Turn round, sprint back, check I'm still behind, if I want her, or there is a danger- wave. Or hold lead up.

Instant return, head volunteered through lead too lol.

Never an accident. Closest control, like command and obedience, zero hesitation or thought not to comply, in that sense.

But I needed to keep my witts about me ofc.

8 am. 1.5 hour walk through estate, Tesco carpark, track, massive lake.

Bikes, people, dogs, cars.

But it does make me laugh, the way I used to amble through it, dimly aware, awake on LSD and ketamine all night, lines before leaving.


Because ketamine really is not for public.

Kava isn't the same there. But can be de-energizing.

I would personally if it was me say, fit to go tomorrow, take some kava ready to swish any time.

But that's me and I have been a right druggie over time.

I hope you enjoy the trip.

I want to assure you. I can relate. I've been right there. Not too too long ago.

Many points over 25 years.

I have really learnt to programme, steer my thought patterns, functionally, constructively, safely towards basic positivity.

Bringing down to earth. Like installed reactivity. To react in a purely coping mechanism way.

This has worked, to avert such general fears I did feel, however travelled I was those times.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Yeah I would like to get my hands on some sort of trip killer like a benzo. I didn’t realize antipsychotics can work for that too though. I assumed the binding affinity of lsd would always be higher. Any particular drugs you recommend for it?

If you can get some Seroquel, which probably isn't easy, it's very good to have around. Even like 50mg should kill pretty much everything within minutes, and after half an hour you should be in the clear. On DPT I took 100mg extended release Seroquel after I finally realized I was psychotic and I felt things calming down within 10 minutes and after half an hour I was practically sober.

I'm skeptical benzos would work when like in full ego death psychosis as you're so unbelievably altered, but maybe it works, I don't know. I actually had benzos around on AL-LAD but my friends couldn't find them in the chaos and it ended up under the couch, it would've required herculean efforts to make me take some also...

Lots of folks tell me that my experience wasn’t real, bad trips aren’t real, etc. and it’s very tough to deal with that from the psychedelics community which I once considered home.

So yeah it’s good to hear for someone with a similar experience of psychedelic induced psychosis

They are very real, weed + acid seems to be a risk, strong drugs like some DOx have some horror reports on them, apparently DPT for me which is also extremely strong...
Both times it felt like there was nothing I could do, it was the most natural thing and it started almost right away when effects started. That's what makes it scary, it feels beyond your control.

I actually thought for a while that my first psychosis was an extremely deep experience, but the second one showed me that it's the most ugly space one can be in. Your brain literally feels broken. There was nothing interesting there, and there's no point in dwelling on it. Both times I was hypomanic however, and on DPT I had taken Strattera earlier in the day which might have increased the chances of it happening.

I hate that it happened to me, I loved tripping, I was "getting better" at it, I felt like I could handle anything and then here we are... I have a pretty sick psychedelic stash as well if I may say so and it's probably a bad idea to take anything.
Zero regrets but... it's pretty unfair

 

[ecstacylover]

Kava works brilliantly on LSD, and cannabis sepearately, combined, to really mitigate anxiety.

Calm and focus the mind. I struggle with daily cannabis use, without kava, to keep anxiety just enough in check.

But on LSD, Kava is very helpful.

Have you ever mixed phenibut with psychedelics? It really helps in regard to the anxiety and body load (which is where a lot of my anxiety stems from).

I've only ever tried Kava on it's own, but this really makes me want to see firsthand how it blends with psychedelics.

 

[Xorkoth]

Lots of folks tell me that my experience wasn’t real, bad trips aren’t real, etc. and it’s very tough to deal with that from the psychedelics community which I once considered home.

That's a bummer, sorry you had to feel like your experience was minimized. I think a lot of psychedelic users either don't want to think psychedelics can produce negative results sometimes, or they're reacting to the fact that some people will have a difficult experience and handle it poorly, like they get scared but then decide that means it damaged them, but difficult trips can be the most rewarding. However, sometimes a trip is truly bad, and nothing positive comes from it, like if you go into psychosis. So they certainly do exist. I'm fortunate that I've never had one, I am thankful for it.

 

[thegreenhand]

I hope you enjoy the trip.

I want to assure you. I can relate. I've been right there. Not too too long ago.

Many points over 25 years.

I have really learnt to programme, steer my thought patterns, functionally, constructively, safely towards basic positivity.

Bringing down to earth. Like installed reactivity. To react in a purely coping mechanism way.

This has worked, to avert such general fears I did feel, however travelled I was those times.

I’ve found that physical movement almost always gets me out of negative thought patterns so a 15-20 mile loop that I have to finish before dark is certainly enough motivation to keep me moving and thus out of those negative thought patterns/loops

If you can get some Seroquel, which probably isn't easy, it's very good to have around.

yeah probably won’t be able to get ahold of that one unfortunately. I’ve tried to find some for stimulant comedowns actually, but no luck. I know some people who are bipolar but they either refuse to medicate (I don’t blame them) or take lithium.

I'm skeptical benzos would work when like in full ego death psychosis as you're so unbelievably altered, but maybe it works, I don't know.

true, even just remembering that I have a benzo to take would be difficult. let alone if it would actually suffice to curb psychosis

hat's a bummer, sorry you had to feel like your experience was minimized. I think a lot of psychedelic users either don't want to think psychedelics can produce negative results sometimes, or they're reacting to the fact that some people will have a difficult experience and handle it poorly, like they get scared but then decide that means it damaged them, but difficult trips can be the most rewarding. However, sometimes a trip is truly bad, and nothing positive comes from it, like if you go into psychosis. So they certainly do exist. I'm fortunate that I've never had one, I am thankful for it

I definitely was in a circle of people that didn’t want to think anything bad can happen from them. And I get it, drug war propaganda has convinced people only bad things will happen so it’s natural to want to promote only the good side. But it’s just not honest or truthful imo. These were basically people in their late teens/early 20s, many of them only having tried psychedelics recently, and still in that ‘honeymoon’ phase. They thought we were gonna recreate the summer of love, start a revolution, etc. all very far fetched in hindsight but it was easy to get roped in. Trying to relate my psychosis experience to them just didn’t get through. They’d say it was my fault, or that I chose horrible set and setting, etc. anything to place the blame solely on me and acquit the substance rather than the real truth of it being a combo of me + the drugs.

but yeah I’m pretty much over it now. It probably was just that circle of “friends” and not the whole psychedelic community at large. it just was hard for me not to be cynical towards the whole community after that experience

 

[Deleted member 521610]

Thats why i like been a lone wolf. Psychedelics are highly personal. I only do them alone these days. Most people don't know jack shit about them most people will come along do them a few times for a little bit of fun but never any crazy amounts claim they know it all and then post stupid fucking quotes on instagram even though everybody knows said person is full of shit and fake.

Psychosis on LSD is some fucking tramusatsing shit. Took me years to get over my worse trip ever were i went to hell for eons

 

[AutoTripper]

Have you ever mixed phenibut with psychedelics? It really helps in regard to the anxiety and body load (which is where a lot of my anxiety stems from).

I've only ever tried Kava on it's own, but this really makes me want to see firsthand how it blends with psychedelics.

Im allergic to near most things.

Kava is an exception.

Phenibut is almost assured to be a bad reaction.

Kava does go very well atop LSD. Especially with the ancient supplement Shilajit.

There is some profound potentiating synergy there. The way shilajit improves kava, and also adds to LSD a bit like MDMA/A did for me.

 

[ecstacylover]

Im allergic to near most things.

Kava is an exception.

Phenibut is almost assured to be a bad reaction.

Kava does go very well atop LSD. Especially with the ancient supplement Shilajit.

There is some profound potentiating synergy there. The way shilajit improves kava, and also adds to LSD a bit like MDMA/A did for me.

Oh okay, smart to stick with what works in that case. Btw, have you ever tried an elemental diet?

Never heard of Shilajit, definitely going to look into that too.

 

[AutoTripper]

Oh okay, smart to stick with what works in that case. Btw, have you ever tried an elemental diet?

Never heard of Shilajit, definitely going to look into that too.

Yes look into shilajit.

Elemental diet no option for me.

Same deal with anything ingestible. Foods, condiments, drinks, herbs, supplements, medicines, and drugs.

It's no joke 99% plus of all "things" (there are a lot of things but it's still needles in hay".

You name it, I'll almost surely be allergic.

You have 1% odds lol!

Real catch 22. Somehow I live with it still.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

shilajit and anything is insane.

This is the true philoshpers stone. This stuff is natures potent medince

Cannabis + shilajit was a combo of the mystics thousands of years ago in the himalayas. I am 100% conviced they eating shilajit magic mushrooms and smoking weed and became awakened and invented yoga.

This stuff is the realm of the gods i swear. It will have you looking way younger but even stronger testorone goes up like 20% naturally.

It unblocks your charkas and spirit body aswell.

This stuff is a detox.

I highly recommend everybody take it. its 100% a cheat code to life.