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Buzz Lightbeer said:
So I took 40mg of the brown 5-MAPB yesterday, it was OK, adding some joints to it was infinitely more fun than solo 5-MAPB though.
It's probably both the batch and the daily Seroquel that has some effect still. But tbh I never really got 5-MAPB, you feel it's very serotonin heavy and that's cool but even with the white batches it's never much more than that. It just doesn't feel like a very complex high, and the so called empathogenic effects are quite one-dimensional imo. Although I kinda feel this way about all empathogens I've tried.

It's good to do some drugs once in a while though, escape from the permanent Seroquel numb... I wanna go off the neuroleptics asap but I can't, there are no other reasonable options.
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I've only ever tried 5-MAPB couple times back in 2015, but this was pretty much my experience. I had two friends who took the same batch in the Borax combo, and one of them said it felt quite like MDMA. The other friend said it mostly just felt like tripping on 4-AcO-MET. And then for me it was mostly the 2-FMA that shone through.

Anyways after that I've always been kind of skeptical of the Borax combo in general, just seems super inconsistent. At some point I'd like to try the new batch of 5-MAPB on it's own to see if maybe the batch I had in 2015 was just impure, but it's not really high on my priorities.
 
ecstacylover said:
I've only ever tried 5-MAPB couple times back in 2015, but this was pretty much my experience. I had two friends who took the same batch in the Borax combo, and one of them said it felt quite like MDMA. The other friend said it mostly just felt like tripping on 4-AcO-MET. And then for me it was mostly the 2-FMA that shone through.

Anyways after that I've always been kind of skeptical of the Borax combo in general, just seems super inconsistent. At some point I'd like to try the new batch of 5-MAPB on it's own to see if maybe the batch I had in 2015 was just impure, but it's not really high on my priorities.
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5-MeO-MiPT is supposed to add more "magic" than 4-xxx-MET though, take that how you want. I added 4-HO-MET once, a little more than is recommended for a pure Borax combo and that is definitely way better and a more complete experience. This was also kind of a low dose, but I've gone fairly high and never really experienced some of the things people describe (incredible empathy, strong euphoric rushes...).
 
porkstock said:
What the heck is this “Borax combo?” Named after the white, powdery cleaner?
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There’s a guy on Reddit called u/Borax who "invented” a combination of drugs that should mimic the effects of MDMA. And one or two years ago vendors started selling pellets that contain this exact mix.

 
Psychestim said:
There’s a guy on Reddit called u/Borax who "invented” a combination of drugs that should mimic the effects of MDMA. And one or two years ago vendors started selling pellets that contain this exact mix.
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So they talk about MDAI, anyone tried it?
I actually have a gram which I haven't touched. I intended to once but lost the capsule...
 
Thanks AutoTripper, I am psychotic currently but not to an extreme degree, just hearing voices and having a hard time not focusing on them currently. Mine also started with a heavy trip and then became chronic, so I'd definitely say watch out for that if you think you have any sensitivities of that nature.

I've had my problems with ecstasy too but do also feel like it got me out of my shell. Haven't used it in many years but have some fond memories of it.

I appreciate the support and advice. I haven't heard of shilajit so I may look it up just to see what it's about, but I mostly prefer to try to handle it without supplements, although I do have an antipsychotic if need be. I actually go in the other direction and still smoke cannabis every day which some would probably call crazy in my case, but I just like it and think that if I can figure this shit out while high, maybe that will give me even more experience than trying to work through it all while sober, heh.

You've said a lot so I'm sorry my response is so short, but again I appreciate your perspective.

Right now I'm mostly just trying to figure out what I want to do with my life going forward. My perspective has changed on a lot of things.
 
Kaleida said:
Thanks AutoTripper, I am psychotic currently but not to an extreme degree, just hearing voices and having a hard time not focusing on them currently. Mine also started with a heavy trip and then became chronic, so I'd definitely say watch out for that if you think you have any sensitivities of that nature.

I've had my problems with ecstasy too but do also feel like it got me out of my shell. Haven't used it in many years but have some fond memories of it.

I appreciate the support and advice. I haven't heard of shilajit so I may look it up just to see what it's about, but I mostly prefer to try to handle it without supplements, although I do have an antipsychotic if need be. I actually go in the other direction and still smoke cannabis every day which some would probably call crazy in my case, but I just like it and think that if I can figure this shit out while high, maybe that will give me even more experience than trying to work through it all while sober, heh.

You've said a lot so I'm sorry my response is so short, but again I appreciate your perspective.

Right now I'm mostly just trying to figure out what I want to do with my life going forward. My perspective has changed on a lot of things.
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Thanks.

You said loads friend. Appreciate that succinct elaboration.

I can relate particularly here to the cannabis too.

I have very extreme, nerve damage based anxiety disorder/panic state.

Surprisingly to most actually fundamentally physical too, funnily.

So lol....loads of LSD like this is a catastrophic recipe on paper.

I have used both insane high benzo and kava amounts daily, to quell otherwise uneasy mind like unbearably.


But I love my weed. I need it for mood, and pain.

Fact remains also, vaporizing cleanly pure organic cannabinoids, is a fantastic powerful broad range preventative and curative medicine, alongside CBD Oil and full spec edibles.

So cannabis is so ingrained as a part of my life and health maintenance but definitely it causes anxiety. Which again I mitigate with kava and benzos for now.

Without those two though, or just kava would work if I no acquired heavy benzo dependance, I'd not ever quell my ultra high anxiety levels, which I do on daily basis, espec with cannabis and Acid.
 
I appreciate the perspective again. :) I've used kratom personally to try to get some antipsychotic and calming effects out of too to some success, but I also don't want to do that too much since I've managed to successfully getting myself into any serious troubles with any opioids yet and don't really want to start.

Cannabis is great, but I can relate to the anxiety too, and despite my casual talk of it I probably should stop smoking it at least right now.... It doesn't necessarily make my psychosis much worse inherently but it's definitely been increasing my anxiety again lately for sure, with a lot of physical aspects like feeling tense and sick that just really don't help, I already feel like I'm close to dying a lot of the time when I'm revved up and manic. Kratom helps with that too but I don't really want to make a habit of using it for that either....

I know you said you don't mind but again I'm sorry for the short response, I'm feeling a little unfocused right now but I appreciate your input.
 
I tripped on 2C-E today, it was tough ngl. Unrelenting.. There's tons to say about it, pure 2C-E wise it was very impressive and far beyond the relative complexity of previous trips at such doses (~18mg). I still feel somewhat awkward tripping and it feels like having lost some "mojo" but it's still the same me in there luckily, just some tougher circumstances these days (Seroquel) and some growing up required.
Big respect to the 30+mg trippers from over the years.
 
That's the 2C-E I remember... it can be pretty challenging. I guess that's why I haven't done it in years. I do really want to do another full dose 2C-E trip, I just don't know when. Probably need to sort some things out in my life before that.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
I tripped on 2C-E today, it was tough ngl. Unrelenting.. There's tons to say about it, pure 2C-E wise it was very impressive and far beyond the relative complexity of previous trips at such doses (~18mg). I still feel somewhat awkward tripping and it feels like having lost some "mojo" but it's still the same me in there luckily, just some tougher circumstances these days (Seroquel) and some growing up required.
Big respect to the 30+mg trippers from over the years.
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That sounds intense. What do find most challenging about 2C-E? Body load? Headspace?
 
Headspace, for me. But the bodyload can also be challenging. Definitely the headspace though. it's very confronting and makes me feel really exposed a lot of the time. I'm not sure if that's explaining it quite right. It's been a long time. Sometimes it feels amazing in terms of the bodyload.
 
I wanna take 2c-e again pretty bad if I could take any psych to break my haitus that would be it like 15-18mgs would be good and have a full on breakthru. It's my favorite psych for sure I also like 4-AcO-DMT alot will be getting some of the later once I move to my new spot. I think about tripping alot guys it's a major passion of mine. Wanna be outta this place first tho I couldn't take something around all these people it would feel odd. Glad you had a good trip Buzz ☺
 
ecstacylover said:
That sounds intense. What do find most challenging about 2C-E? Body load? Headspace?
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Body load is pretty much a non factor for me. The headspace is just unrelenting, it takes a long time before the foot is off the gas, especially around 18mg and higher. I hated having all my attention pinned on the most ugly holes in my life (mainly Seroquel and every behavioral change that comes with it) and it took many hours before I started thinking a little more practically. I can't really recall any trips where I couldn't resolve these kinds of things and just move on.

10-14mg is more reasonable and makes for a more straight forward experience imo, higher doses definitely offer something more though.
 
Yeah my 18mg trip was an actual ego death where I believed I was going to die and that was going to reset the entire universe with a new big bang. I saw possible realities (I think of it as the 5th dimensional plane, the space of all possible configurations of the 4th dimensional space, aka the plane of probability) branching out in front and behind me. It was the wildest psychedelic experience of my life. I also had another 18mg trip where that didn't happen and it was just wildly intense audio and visual hallucinations with a much more grounded headspace. Every other time I've taken it, I've taken less than 18mg.
 
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