☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Tripping Past 2020

[Kaleida]

That was a hell of a meal to get through right now, though. But I'll be happy late tonight when I'm still energized and tripping and actually have a lot more in my stomach than just the bowl of cereal I ate for breakfast early this morning.

It was pretty hard to focus on how the trip was going outside of its effect on the food taste and stuff when eating, but I'm definitely feeling good and in something now. Though, I do have this annoying right chest tension that has come and gone a few times as my focus returns to my body, which doesn't feel like it's connected to any specific side effect of the drug, and might just be something like, maybe I slept on it weird in a way that wouldn't have been obvious if not for synergizing with the muscle tension of the drug, but now it is and hard to ignore. It's gone away as I type this though, maybe I just need to go relax for a minute now that I'm done eating.

For comparison, the first time I took DOC at 2.5 mg I was buckled over in the fetal position for hours drinking alcohol hoping it would make the pain go away... so, things are still actually pretty good right now.

 

[Kaleida]

I'm probably not going to keep this posting up much right now because it is getting deeper now that I'm done eating and smoking a little more and I think I'm going to go take a bath or something, but I'll say for now it's definitely some pretty crazy shit, though most DOx chemicals are in my experience. I like it so far but there's a lot left to go still, so more on that later.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Good luck @Kaleida !! I'm always weirdly invested in people going on long DOx trips lol, so it's just good wishes before I find sleep

 

[Kaleida]

 

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gonna pop alot of drugs tonight, Just finished all my studies, fucking crazy stuff cant believe its done now after going back

 

[Kaleida]

Just checking in to say that the trip's going great though I'm pretty tired at this point. I stayed in the bath for a good while and had lots of nice thoughts and it kept the tension on the right side of my chest away which mostly never came back afterward. I ate pizza for dinner and watched some TV and didn't really feel the need to do much else at that point, and now I'm sitting here full and satisfied and feeling like I'm starting to drift out, though I'm still wired enough to be able to pay attention to some things. In some ways this is actually the best point yet because after working the whole day to handle the trip in a way to make sure I'd still be comfortable by the end of the day, it paid off and I do feel great and like I would be ready to go to bed after a good trip normally, except that I'm still tripping and feel and my body feels amazing with all the day's tensions smoothed out. I'm probably heading to bed soon so I can roll around a bit in the darkness and try to bring more of the visuals from earlier out again, which I expect to last a while, but I'll probably be out within a few hours. Lots of people seem to be kept awake through a whole DOx experience but that's not me, I'll definitely pass out once my bed thoughts stop being interesting to me.

I actually really like this stuff. I really want to try a higher dosage though I imagine it might be somewhat like being smashed with a psychedelic sledgehammer.

 

[Kaleida]

Day two's off to a pretty good start so far, got a good five or six hours of sleep and woke up still feeling a good body high and contended headspace along with now feeling refreshed from sleep too. I doubt I'm going to have much more to say about it other than what I put in the trip report later, but this much seemed worth noting at least.

DOx molecules are awesome, though challenging. I kind of don't feel like they should be directly recommended to people much, but a general psychedelic enthusiast who wants to see as much possible of what psychedelics can do should definitely consider giving them a shot. There are definitely things I get out of them in general that no other type of psychedelic I'm aware of yet would substitute for.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

DOx molecules are awesome, though challenging. I kind of don't feel like they should be directly recommended to people much, but a general psychedelic enthusiast who wants to see as much possible of what psychedelics can do should definitely consider giving them a shot. There are definitely things I get out of them in general that no other type of psychedelic I'm aware of yet would substitute for.

Couldn't agree more

One thing that does kinda bug me about them is that you generally don't come across too well to non tripping minds. In that there is often some degree of ego inflation, possibly due to the amphetamine buzz, well, in my experience at least. And you like ride the amphetamine wave, fully in its zone, which makes it so that you do miss some perspective on your outward, and also inward behavior. They just tend to make me not care about those little things, it's all about the larger scheme of things, which isn't necessarily that bad, it's just a entirely different approach to tripping than a lysergamide, tryptamine or most phens. Well, in my experience of course.

Impressive that you could sleep on it though deep down DOPr is almost as much of a physical beast as DOB, I experienced it first hand......

 

[simstim]

Why don't people snort DOx drugs more often to shorten the come up?

I tried BOD recently a handful of times and didn't like the long, slow, over three hours come up leading to an over 16 hour trip, so, I took to snorting it the last couple of times. That probably cut the come up time in half at least.

My neighbors gave me a couple of good sized rips of meth this morning in the hallway. Great day so far!!! I don't even feel like drinking for a change!!

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Why don't people snort DOx drugs more often to shorten the come up?

I tried BOD recently a handful of times and didn't like the long, slow, over three hours come up leading to an over 16 hour trip, so, I took to snorting it the last couple of times. That probably cut the come up time in half at least.

My neighbors gave me a couple of good sized rips of meth this morning in the hallway. Great day so far!!! I don't even feel like drinking for a change!!

Harder to accurately dose I guess, but like a nose spray would probably work well.
I've heard good things about snorting both DOB and DOC, significantly reduces the overall tripping time too.

But who would want this I have never minded a long come up personally, gives you time to go for a walk, settle and slowly make sense of things.

I'd honestly be a little anxious about snorting DOx, you could be in for a world of hurt shortly after.

 

[simstim]

Hard to accurately dose I guess.
I've heard good things about snorting both DOB and DOC, significantly reduces the overall trip time too.

But who would want this I have never minded a long come up personally, gives you time to go for a walk, settle and slowly make sense of things.

I used to LOVE to IV tryptamines so I guess I'm not big on long come ups.

The fastest nasal come up ever on a psychedelic is 25i-nboh.

I received a baggie labeled 13-14mg crystal, divided it into two (one for me, one for buddy), and then as soon I did the little bump visual patterns were carpeting everything! Almost instantly! My buddy said "no way! How is it possible to come up so fast!". Of course we did snort about seven hits apiece.

 

[Kaleida]

Couldn't agree more

One thing that does kinda bug me about them is that you generally don't come across too well to non tripping minds. In that there is often some degree of ego inflation, possibly due to the amphetamine buzz, well, in my experience at least. And you like ride the amphetamine wave, fully in its zone, which makes it so that you do miss some perspective on your outward, and also inward behavior. They just tend to make me not care about those little things, it's all about the larger scheme of things, which isn't necessarily that bad, it's just a entirely different approach to tripping than a lysergamide, tryptamine or most phens. Well, in my experience of course.

I have experienced this, but not that much because I usually take them alone, which I so far prefer, admittedly in part for this reason. The headspace doesn't bother me at all when I'm on my own, I like the way it makes me think critically about different aspects of my life.

Impressive that you could sleep on it though deep down DOPr is almost as much of a physical beast as DOB, I experienced it first hand......

Told you I would be able to lol. This trip was not as physically stimulating for me as my DOB trips have been, but I could see it getting into a similar area. There was definitely a notable comparison between DOPR and DOB for me in multiple ways which was part of what I liked about the DOPR, since DOB is the shit. I do also sleep on the first night of taking DOB too though anyway, haha.

Why don't people snort DOx drugs more often to shorten the come up?

I tried BOD recently a handful of times and didn't like the long, slow, over three hours come up leading to an over 16 hour trip, so, I took to snorting it the last couple of times. That probably cut the come up time in half at least.

They're often on blotters, so that's part of it, and when they're not they're often placed in a liquid for volumetric dosing due to their potency, as it's difficult to accurately weigh the powder with a standard scale for most of them (though I did with DOPR, but only because I was taking 5 mg, whereas others often require less than 3 mg). Some people do snort them sometimes, though.

Personally I just don't snort anything anymore, and I also usually like my psychedelics to last as long as possible, especially the rare ones, even if the come up is frustratingly long. The only times I take psychedelics any way other than orally anymore is when I smoke tryptamines.

 

[simstim]

I wonder what it is like to vaporize a DOx. I tried vaping 2c-e a few times trying to avoid nausea... I still puked. I kinda liked it that way despite the icky feeling I always had on 2ce.

I'm planning to get some DOC pills soon. It will be my first, for sure, doses of a DOx. I'll probably try snorting them first honestly, unless there is a good reason not to. I usually do like snorting things and like to trip HARD.

I say for sure because once I took two and a half blotters and it lasted over 24 hours and was freakishly strong. I also puked coming up which I've never done on LSD before (I was super hungover though at the time).

 

[deficiT]

I wonder what it is like to vaporize a DOx. I tried vaping 2c-e a few times trying to avoid nausea... I still puked. I kinda liked it that way despite the icky feeling I always had on 2ce.

I'm planning to get some DOC pills soon. It will be my first, for sure, doses of a DOx. I'll probably try snorting them first honestly, unless there is a good reason not to. I usually do like snorting things and like to trip HARD.

I say for sure because once I took two and a half blotters and it lasted over 24 hours and was freakishly strong. I also puked coming up which I've never done on LSD before (I was super hungover though at the time).

Only phen I've ever done in any other way besides oral or nasal was 25b-nbome, 25i-nbome IV... It was honestly one of the wildest trips I've ever had. Beautiful visuals, like being inside a TV or something lol... For harm reduction purposes I probably wouldn't recommend it to anyone... but if it were possible to vaporize phen compounds I'm sure it could be potentially comparable. Sure it would taste like garbage though. If I had the material I would do it for the sake of science. Might be willing to try one day.

 

[Kaleida]

I wonder what it is like to vaporize a DOx. I tried vaping 2c-e a few times trying to avoid nausea... I still puked. I kinda liked it that way despite the icky feeling I always had on 2ce.

I actually intend to try this with whatever remains of my DOF when I don't have any more full dosages left to take, should be probably around 5 mg or so. I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes. Good to know about the puking lol.

I'm planning to get some DOC pills soon. It will be my first, for sure, doses of a DOx. I'll probably try snorting them first honestly, unless there is a good reason not to. I usually do like snorting things and like to trip HARD.

I say for sure because once I took two and a half blotters and it lasted over 24 hours and was freakishly strong. I also puked coming up which I've never done on LSD before (I was super hungover though at the time).

I can't really think of a compelling reason not to snort them, other than potentially being surprised by the intensity since it's your first time for sure using it. The biggest concern is overshooting how much potential body load you're willing to deal with and then not being in a good environment to work it off, but as long as you have the ability to stay active and get comfortable if you need to, it shouldn't be too big of a deal. I'm also not really sure how the body load would actually compare between oral and insufflated, but I tend to think of it as more part of the trip than actual physical problems anyway.

Those blotters definitely could have been a DOx with that duration, though of course we'll never know for sure. I definitely went through the same thing though, I took some blotters early on sold to me as LSD but that turned out to be different from all the subsequent LSD I got, and then I tried DOC and boom, there that style was again.

Only phen I've ever done in any other way besides oral or nasal was 25b-nbome, 25i-nbome IV... It was honestly one of the wildest trips I've ever had. Beautiful visuals, like being inside a TV or something lol... For harm reduction purposes I probably wouldn't recommend it to anyone...

I've heard things along these lines before. I have no interest in using NBOMes myself but they make for some interesting stories.

 

[deficiT]

I actually intend to try this with whatever remains of my DOF when I don't have any more full dosages left to take, should be probably around 5 mg or so. I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes. Good to know about the puking lol.



I can't really think of a compelling reason not to snort them, other than potentially being surprised by the intensity since it's your first time for sure using it. The biggest concern is overshooting how much potential body load you're willing to deal with and then not being in a good environment to work it off, but as long as you have the ability to stay active and get comfortable if you need to, it shouldn't be too big of a deal. I'm also not really sure how the body load would actually compare between oral and insufflated, but I tend to think of it as more part of the trip than actual physical problems anyway.

Those blotters definitely could have been a DOx with that duration, though of course we'll never know for sure. I definitely went through the same thing though, I took some blotters early on sold to me as LSD but that turned out to be different from all the subsequent LSD I got, and then I tried DOC and boom, there that style was again.



I've heard things along these lines before. I have no interest in using NBOMes myself but they make for some interesting stories.

I also had an LSD experience of which I highly suspect was a DOx, 16+ hour trip, but have never had DOx proper. It was actually a really bad time, was not in the right environment at all, smoked too much cannabis and that really set me off during the peak and I went into a bit of a manic state.

Yeah, nbomes have a much bigger spot in my heart than most people, they are some of my favorite, although nboh I probably like better. Every experience I have with them has been solid. I'm so upset with myself for getting my 25b and 25e nboh confiscated because I had like a lifetime supply of them. Utter stupidity on my part though, I have to build my psych stash up from scratch now. Also had lifetime supply of benzos which are gone, and some trypts... really disappointed in it.

But again, don't take benzos and drive folks.

 

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Cool that you got to try DOPr @Kaleida, it's an awesome psychedelic. I want so badly to experience it again, though I'm not sure I have the spare hours anytime soon. Life's been pretty busy lately and I've been kinda away from drugs besides the occasional mini-dose here and there (actually just yesterday I took some 5-MeO-MiPT and went for a long walk but it was only 2 mg so just a faint psychedelic buzz.

H I have never minded a long come up personally, gives you time to go for a walk, settle and slowly make sense of things.

Yeah, I think the same way. Before DOPr, 2C-P was for many years the longest lasting drug I've tried. And one of the aspects I like the most about it was that slow, long come-up that would drag you in drop by drop into that swirly psychedelic ocean.

 

[simstim]

Only phen I've ever done in any other way besides oral or nasal was 25b-nbome, 25i-nbome IV... It was honestly one of the wildest trips I've ever had. Beautiful visuals, like being inside a TV or something lol... For harm reduction purposes I probably wouldn't recommend it to anyone... but if it were possible to vaporize phen compounds I'm sure it could be potentially comparable. Sure it would taste like garbage though. If I had the material I would do it for the sake of science. Might be willing to try one day.

That sounds interesting. If I still used needles I would be extremely tempted to try preparing a solution to inject from my last five hits of 25b-NBOH. I haven't injected any psychedelic phenylamines. NBOHs are so clean that I could really see it being good for that.

I might consider doing it IM. I'm not even sure I could IV anymore. It's been so long that the last times I tried it didn't work out so well and I ended up going IM (which works fine there's just less rush).

 

[Kaleida]

I also had an LSD experience of which I highly suspect was a DOx, 16+ hour trip, but have never had DOx proper. It was actually a really bad time, was not in the right environment at all, smoked too much cannabis and that really set me off during the peak and I went into a bit of a manic state.

I imagine a DOx in a particularly bad environment for it would be horrible, luckily I've not really had worse than a just okay setting. I pretty much always smoke cannabis while tripping and I've found it to mix well with DOx molecules personally, again only speaking from okay to great settings, but I also know people who have claimed that mixing them is just about the most intense and disorienting thing ever for them. morninggloryseed (RIP) once told me that an I think around 3-4 mg dosage of DOC plus cannabis at the peak got him into a place similar to iboga.

They can be really cool when done right. Their raw strength is just a part of what makes them more impressive when you get to enjoy it.

Yeah, nbomes have a much bigger spot in my heart than most people, they are some of my favorite, although nboh I probably like better. Every experience I have with them has been solid. I'm so upset with myself for getting my 25b and 25e nboh confiscated because I had like a lifetime supply of them. Utter stupidity on my part though, I have to build my psych stash up from scratch now. Also had lifetime supply of benzos which are gone, and some trypts... really disappointed in it.

But again, don't take benzos and drive folks.

I know a lot of people loved them back before they were discovered to be relatively more dangerous than other psychedelics, and I'm sure those feelings didn't all just vanish. Afterwards people talked like they were somewhat hollow and it wasn't that big of a deal to have to pass on them anyway, but I definitely remember when people were talking about 25I-NBOMe like it would be the "next LSD" and so on.

I don't think I've heard of any NBOH deaths yet still, so that's probably for the best anyway. That really fucking sucks about your supply though, I'm sorry. I am so incredibly paranoid about my stash, I think I'd probably just have to give up hope of ever perfectly recreating it if I lost it.

Cool that you got to try DOPr @Kaleida, it's an awesome psychedelic. I want so badly to experience it again, though I'm not sure I have the spare hours anytime soon. Life's been pretty busy lately and I've been kinda away from drugs besides the occasional mini-dose here and there (actually just yesterday I took some 5-MeO-MiPT and went for a long walk but it was only 2 mg so just a faint psychedelic buzz).

Totally get not having the time for it, but yeah, it was pretty cool, and I hope you manage to try it again when you can. I've actually been on a sort of break too, not really planned but it had been a good while since my last trip before this and I wasn't exactly sure how my headspace would be during it, but it turned out pretty well, I feel pretty revitalized and ready to explore with some other stuff again more too. I'd definitely love to hear how it goes for you when you do take it again.

It's been a while since we crossed paths here, I hope you're doing well in general too and keeping busy for good reasons!

Yeah, I think the same way. Before DOPr, 2C-P was for many years the longest lasting drug I've tried. And one of the aspects I like the most about it was that slow, long come-up that would drag you in drop by drop into that swirly psychedelic ocean.

As much as I complain, it is kind of cool how much they just go... and go... and go... like you can barely even tell when or if they ever stop getting stronger. I just wish they started a little sooner lol.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Told you I would be able to lol. This trip was not as physically stimulating for me as my DOB trips have been, but I could see it getting into a similar area. There was definitely a notable comparison between DOPR and DOB for me in multiple ways which was part of what I liked about the DOPR, since DOB is the shit. I do also sleep on the first night of taking DOB too though anyway, haha.

Yes I found them quite similar as well.
If only we could enter DOI into the equation to have fully established things.

Fwiw I heard that vaping DOC does work well, maybe it was even preferable to snorting, you will find this info on Reddit for sure. @simstim
Either way, if you take like 4 DOC pills orally, you will trip hard like never before and I guarantee that it'll hit fast and hard, forget about a come up of 2 hours. I've never gone that high with DOC myself but there are plenty of crazy stories around. Apparently there's really something to high DOC dosing, but there's also a high risk of psychosis among plenty of other things, on intense DOx trips, at least that what I gather from reports.