Thanks guys! It was definitely very interesting as I thought it would be.
Help?!?!, when it comes to psychedelics in general, I just tend to prefer oral dosing because the slower onset and longer duration allow me to feel more involved in the experience. I tend to think of the oral trips as the ones with the most potential, so I'm more concerned with getting the most out of my psychedelics in that way than I am with being able to get the largest number of uses out of them. Though, in the case of 4-HO-DPT I did make sure I got enough to be a little flexible with my stash as well.
Honestly though, after this experience, I would say that I do find 4-HO-DPT to be a very interesting substance just like all the other 4-substituted tryptamines, but I don't think I hold it in the same regard that you do. I thought it showed promise at the 60 mg dose which was strong but not yet to that "full trip" threshold, and it still did at this 100 mg as well which I felt did cross that line, but I still felt that there was that "something missing" that I would say about most synthetic tryptamines in comparison to, for instance, LSD. 4-HO-MPT is still the only one that has felt to be on that same level to me. Actually, overall I would say that this 100 mg of 4-HO-DPT felt very similar in overall intensity to 50 mg of 4-HO-MPT, but less visual, euphoric, or psychological and with a higher body load (diuresis, leg tremors, jaw tension, dry mouth). Basically what makes it feel unique to me is that it seems to trade some of the intensity of 4-HO-MPT in the aforementioned categories in exchange for the fact that it takes you to that same kind of realm while somehow leaving you feeling shockingly sober at the same time, more so than any other psychedelic I've tried for the same amount of genuine tripping that was going on. That aspect of it makes it very intriguing to me and I can definitely see myself making use of it for special occasions, especially more social ones, but really, if I wanted to have the same kind of trip but be blasted into a looping, manic, overloaded psychedelic mess at the same time, I would just take 4-HO-MPT instead.
I don't mean to discourage anyone from pursuing it, though. It's all subjective just as one person will prefer 2C-E over 2C-P and the next person the opposite. Personally I did think that the hyperspatial visions produced by 4-HO-DPT still may be even more alluring than those produced by 4-HO-MPT in some ways, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to push it as far as I would 4-HO-MPT. This dose was already nearing uncomfortable for me as far as 4-substituted tryptamines go, with the constant bathroom breaks and refilling of fluids and a good deal of tightness throughout my body. I kind of got the feeling that this could honestly already be a maximum dose for me, with 50-80 mg probably being the only range I'd ever need for both social and introspective purposes.
I'll definitely have more to say about the trip later too, but I'm really tired at the moment and need to try to get some sleep. It's almost eight hours after dosing and I still feel pretty mentally stimulated and alert.... I wonder how long that's going to last exactly. It was a good trip overall, but definitely not quite what I was expecting. It's going to take a good bit of thinking about before I think I can begin to fully wrap my head around it really....
Anyway, until then, goodnight anyone who might still be up to read this.
