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[Xorkoth]

Yeah I have the same reaction to drinking on the peak vs the plateau. For me, DOC tends to be very difficult to diminish... even on large doses of MXE I still feel the DOC just as much. Alcohol doesn't dampen it, even benzos don't until the tail end when I can take a sedating one to sleep. One of the reasons I usually drink on the end of it is specifically because it makes it easier to sleep sooner... plus it's just really fun and euphoric.

I look forward to the TR.

 

[Kaleida]

That is very interesting, and makes me want to try mixing a good few things with it actually.... With that quality in mind it doesn't sound like the physical effects should be very hard to tweak without getting in the way of the trip at all! Do benzos still have an anti-anxiety effect and/or increase blood flow during the first phase?

I'm done writing my report. Posted it here:

(DOC/2.5 mg) - First Time - A Very Strange Day

 

[PotatoMan]

Yeah I have the same reaction to drinking on the peak vs the plateau. For me, DOC tends to be very difficult to diminish... even on large doses of MXE I still feel the DOC just as much. Alcohol doesn't dampen it, even benzos don't until the tail end when I can take a sedating one to sleep. One of the reasons I usually drink on the end of it is specifically because it makes it easier to sleep sooner... plus it's just really fun and euphoric.

I look forward to the TR.

alcohol is definitely my most favourite thing to consume after the peak of an acid tab. quiets the over-stimulation and sorta numbs the brain. :3 thinking about it for this weekend

 

[Xorkoth]

That is very interesting, and makes me want to try mixing a good few things with it actually.... With that quality in mind it doesn't sound like the physical effects should be very hard to tweak without getting in the way of the trip at all! Do benzos still have an anti-anxiety effect and/or increase blood flow during the first phase?

I'm done writing my report. Posted it here:

(DOC/2.5 mg) - First Time - A Very Strange Day

Yeah, they're still anti-anxiety, but at normal dosages they don't seem to diminish the trip.

Gonna read the report now.

 

[Kaleida]

Well that's pretty cool about the benzos, that's something I think would be nice to try with it one of these days. Without diminishing the trip I would think that that could actually lead to some pretty deep places. Though probably best to have a sitter around for that one depending on the dose!

 

[Xorkoth]

I'm sure at a high enough dose benzos would knock the trip down, but like, with most everything else I've done, even a moderate dose of a benzo will significantly bring the trip down, but with DOC I have never had it do so (but I hardly ever use benzos and have no tolerance at all so my doses are never high, the highest I'll go is 3mg of etizolam if I want to sleep while quite stimulated at the end of a trip or something - 3mg is what I use at the end of DOC to knock me out, but if I don't try to sleep I'll still be up and psychedelically altered).

 

[PotatoMan]

here we go! idk but that tab had a hint of pussy in its taste. ver strange i must say :D

 

[Just A Guy]

Hello, everyone!

I received some 5-MEO-MIPT and 5-MAPB the other day. Yesterday, I decided to sample the 5-MEO-MIPT during my lunch break with what I thought would be j. ust a threshold dose for me (5mg) -- (I didn't measure, just did what I thought would be an allergy test amount) -- I was surprised by its potency, and my eye dilation kept me paranoid and working in a vacant apartment unit for the remainder of the day. But like I've experienced with other trypts, it made the sunshine sparkle, the chilly wind especially crisp and icy on my skin. Urinating felt wonderful. lol It subsided about 4 hours later, like I'd expected, and I was back to normal for the remainder of the day.

I orally dosed 100mg of 5-MAPB about 40 minutes ago. I've been hoping for something to mimic 6-APB's wonderful effects (my favorite RC) but so far it just seems so kind of not getting there. But I'm holding off from any redose because it's my first time and I might be surprised at a delayed kickoff. lol We'll see.

I sure am yawning a lot.

.... maybe in order to experience some fun I should take another 5mg of the 5-MEO-MIPT, since it was pretty good!

Edit: Just a about five minutes later, and now I'm feeling it kick in. Sweaty palms, a bit of gassiness/intestinal action, music reverberation a bit, a bit of time dilation, and monginess.

Edit: 40 minutes later... typical serotonergic effects, with a tiny bit of muscle tension. Sensitivity to touch is up. I still don't think it compares well to 6-APB, but about thirty minutes ago I took another 25mg of 5-MAPB, and despite the risks that might come with it, I took a 5-HTP capsule, a multivitamin, a fish oil capsule, and a small dose of adrafinil (modafinil pro-drug) -- (since I don't have any stims, but it serves as a decent dopamine reuptake inhibitor, so we'll see how it works.)

Edit: 25 minutes later... okay we're getting somewhere. I added 5mg of 5-MEO-MIPT to the mix. Strangely, almost instant feeling of stimulation.

My eyes are pretty dilated.

Was listening to a Moody Blues Pandora station for the longest time, but right before I added the 5-MEO-MIPT, I decided a change was needed. Now I'm listening to a Lindsey Stirling station. I need the energy. But I'll tell you what. I'm kind of amped, but my eyes want to close. lol

Edit: 5 minutes later. Slight eye wiggles, but they are there. Sexual appetite strong! Very VERY mongy. Heavy relaxed cushioned feeling overwhelming, surrounding me. Like being in a rubber balloon full of hot air without touching the sides, but with that temperature and atmospheric pressure. Speaking of balloons, wow I bet nitrous would be amazing at the moment.

Once upon a time, I felt this way (a poem I wrote many years ago while in the army) :

For some people there is nothing so magnificent
Than blood, sweat, and the cries of the innocent.
But I, I strive to suppress the violence,
The cacophony of slaughter and monotony of silence,
To shelter the unhomed and guide the lost,
And rescue the cold from the killing frost.
But my efforts, they never seemed so hopeless
As I now look at the world around me.


Call me a shepherd caring for his sheep,
Or a singer of lullabies putting the young to sleep.
Or see me as the sage who speaks words of wisdom
To ensure the prosperity of his clan and kingdom.
Praise me as your savior who brings salvation
Or denote me a demon, for I’m deep in despair
As I listen to the world around me.


Where are those feel as I do,
Who know their hearts will lead them true?
Am I alone in the quest for good,
To ensure things are as they ought and should?
Because when I’m chastised for failing to succeed
In my constant struggle to do the good deed,
I can’t help but turn my back
On the world dying all around me.

I'll never turn my back on this world.

Edit: 15 minutes later: the serotonin surge is tremendous, almost incapacitating -- at times I don't even have the ability to clench my fists there is this softness to all the hand to eye right now, to all the muscle commands... I closed my eyes for a bit, laying in bed, breathing deeply, it's both comfortable and .just a bit overwhelming.

By the way happy Friday the 13th everyone. Someone told me that 13 is supposed to represent "divine femininity."

Edit: 20 minutes later. Eye wiggles getting fierce. Tongue and mouth stuff. Hahaha, I picture myself looking like Silent Roller's avatar right now. This was a potent combination. I feel good, but it's overwhelming and something you can't just direct, it kind of directs you.

Edit: Just about 3 hours later... dang it. Just watched a bunch of shows, a couple episodes of Limitless, of The League... time to eat some melatonin and hopefully get some sleep at around the 6th hour. Final thoughts: I'd do this combination again, but all at once. The timing was way off sync. Actually, I don't know. I think I'd just do a strong dose of the 5-MEO-MIPT by itself.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

Doin K. I havent done K for like 5 years

 

[vortech]

Doin K. I havent done K for like 5 years

Vortech approves of this message.

So how was it mane?

 

[Xorkoth]

I tripped with my friend last night, very interesting. I took 300ug of AL-LAD first. It was quite nice but not strong at all, as I expected (I would have taken 450, which is my sweet spot, but I only had 2 left). I enjoyed that for like 3, 3.5 hours, and then my friend and I both took 32mg of 4-HO-MPT... it was my first time taking it (I will be taking 50mg by itself sometime to get a true assessment/report on how it is). They combined great, and 4-HO-MPT is very interesting... like Kaleida said, I found it quite similar to LSD in some ways, it was quite transparent on the body and the visuals reminded me of it. Granted, I was also on AL-LAD, but I had no visuals from it alone. The trails I saw were phenomenal... really great, and it looked like I was able to grab this "goo" that the air was made up of and shape it with my hands. For example, I grabbed up a ball of it like a snowball and threw it at the wall, and I watched, clear as day, as that ball left my hand, and sent ripples through the rest of the goo as it went to the wall and burst apart like smoke. Really cool effect, and very consistent. It reminded me of ibogaine visuals a bit, different in character entirely, but in that both of their visuals didn't appear as morphing/bending/patterning, but rather as if I was seeing something that was always there that I can't normally see, as if they have real presence in the world. Really interesting. I felt quite lucid the whole time but not as functional as LSD, and I felt the potential for delusional/hypnotic states (not in a bad way though).

The weird part was when I did nitrous. The first time I hit 2 chargers and we SO far out there, I don't remember most of it but I remember coming back from it, I was leaving, with a sense of loss, a beautiful place I can only compare to the classic idea of heaven. There were gorgeous cloud mountains and palacaes of gold and marble, and I remember that it was the most peaceful and euphoric place I can imagine. Naturally, when I came back I wanted to do it again and I realized I still had the third charger in there, plus a bit more, like a full breath and a half. So I did it again. This time I felt barely any of the buzz; usually I'm buzzing really hard and wah-wahing a bit from one full breath, but it was like a faint tingle around the edges and no seeming change of headspace. Almost like it wasn't real or pure nitrous. I took the rest and partway through that breath I distinctly (and seemingly lucidly) felt long shards of ice fly out of it, hit my throat, and breathe into my lungs. I panicked and opened my eyes and exhaled. I could fully, 100% feel shards of ice in my throat, stabbing, and melting and dripping down... I thought I could feel them dripping into my lungs too. I 100% believed it was happening, but then after a few moments the feeling faded and I realized I hadn't really inhaled ice shards. But it was very unsettling and although I did become delusional briefly, I didn't have anything resembling a normal nitrous experience.

A bit later I tried it again. The same thing happened! Then I tried it again, and this time I held my tongue over the opening as I inhaled to make sure I was really not inhaling ice shards, so they'd hit my tongue and I could be sure. The first hit was fine, except virtually no buzz, and halfway through the second I felt, real as day, ice shards hitting my tongue. Then one got past my tongue and lodged back in my throat, I could feel it also piercing my left lung. I was trying to tell myself it was delusional but it felt as real as anything I'd ever felt and I felt lucid, so again I panicked. It left me really shaken after that, and I kept feeling sore spots in my lungs in the places I thought I felt ice shards, all the way through the rest of the night. Really off-putting. I got a bit drunk later on and tried it one more time and it was back to normal, I had a nice experience again.

Really strange, my friend was getting concerned about me because I couldn't stop talking about it because it was freaking me out.

 

[TheAppleCore]

^ Wow, that sounds terrifying!! I have certainly had my share of "OH SHIT I KILLED MYSELF" moments on powerful psychedelics. Not fun, not fun at all! But hey, helps you appreciate being alive and well, eh?



Here are my LSD-fueled words of the week:


the greatest jewels of the world aren't marked on a treasure map. in the palace of life, the vast majority of the doors of possibility and opportunity remain unopened, undiscovered.

to those who are not afraid to wander without aim—to those who have no fear of stumbling into dead ends—these riches belong.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Had my first experience with 4-FA last night, at 100mg. It was really quite nice, when it hit me, I just couldn't stop talking, my words were just a constant stream of consciousness flowing out of my mouth. I had a real nice body high that centered in my legs and it was quite euphoric. Had quite a few beers too and I honestly just couldn't feel them. Overall, the drug wasn't overtly in my face, but I think if I take it up to 120-130mg it might be really amazing, and still leave aside any nasty side-effects. It's a winner in my book so far, I'm excited to further experiment with it soon!

 

[Kaleida]

Hello, everyone!

I received some 5-MEO-MIPT and 5-MAPB the other day. Yesterday, I decided to sample the 5-MEO-MIPT during my lunch break with what I thought would be just a threshold dose for me (5mg). I was surprised by its potency, and my eye dilation kept me paranoid and working in a vacant apartment unit for the remainder of the day. But like I've experienced with other trypts, it made the sunshine sparkle, the chilly wind especially crisp and icy on my skin. Urinating felt wonderful. lol It subsided about 4 hours later, like I'd expected, and I was back to normal for the remainder of the day.

I orally dosed 100mg of 5-MAPB about 40 minutes ago. I've been hoping for something to mimic 6-APB's wonderful effects (my favorite RC) but so far it just seems so kind of not getting there. But I'm holding off from any redose because it's my first time and I might be surprised at a delayed kickoff. lol We'll see.

I sure am yawning a lot.

.... maybe in order to experience some fun I should take another 5mg of the 5-MEO-MIPT, since it was pretty good!

...

Edit: Just about 3 hours later... dang it. Just watched a bunch of shows, a couple episodes of Limitless, of The League... time to eat some melatonin and hopefully get some sleep at around the 6th hour. Final thoughts: I'd do this combination again, but all at once. The timing was way off sync. Actually, I don't know. I think I'd just do a strong dose of the 5-MEO-MIPT by itself.

Sounds pretty intense! Was there any significant psychedelic aspect to it from the 5-MeO-MiPT? I've heard that it can get that way on its own in higher doses. I know at least a couple of people who claim trip harder on it than a lot of other things, though I haven't tried it myself.

I tripped with my friend last night, very interesting. I took 300ug of AL-LAD first. It was quite nice but not strong at all, as I expected (I would have taken 450, which is my sweet spot, but I only had 2 left). I enjoyed that for like 3, 3.5 hours, and then my friend and I both took 32mg of 4-HO-MPT... it was my first time taking it (I will be taking 50mg by itself sometime to get a true assessment/report on how it is). They combined great, and 4-HO-MPT is very interesting... like Kaleida said, I found it quite similar to LSD in some ways, it was quite transparent on the body and the visuals reminded me of it. Granted, I was also on AL-LAD, but I had no visuals from it alone. The trails I saw were phenomenal... really great, and it looked like I was able to grab this "goo" that the air was made up of and shape it with my hands. For example, I grabbed up a ball of it like a snowball and threw it at the wall, and I watched, clear as day, as that ball left my hand, and sent ripples through the rest of the goo as it went to the wall and burst apart like smoke. Really cool effect, and very consistent. It reminded me of ibogaine visuals a bit, different in character entirely, but in that both of their visuals didn't appear as morphing/bending/patterning, but rather as if I was seeing something that was always there that I can't normally see, as if they have real presence in the world. Really interesting. I felt quite lucid the whole time but not as functional as LSD, and I felt the potential for delusional/hypnotic states (not in a bad way though).

The weird part was when I did nitrous. The first time I hit 2 chargers and we SO far out there, I don't remember most of it but I remember coming back from it, I was leaving, with a sense of loss, a beautiful place I can only compare to the classic idea of heaven. There were gorgeous cloud mountains and palacaes of gold and marble, and I remember that it was the most peaceful and euphoric place I can imagine. Naturally, when I came back I wanted to do it again and I realized I still had the third charger in there, plus a bit more, like a full breath and a half. So I did it again. This time I felt barely any of the buzz; usually I'm buzzing really hard and wah-wahing a bit from one full breath, but it was like a faint tingle around the edges and no seeming change of headspace. Almost like it wasn't real or pure nitrous. I took the rest and partway through that breath I distinctly (and seemingly lucidly) felt long shards of ice fly out of it, hit my throat, and breathe into my lungs. I panicked and opened my eyes and exhaled. I could fully, 100% feel shards of ice in my throat, stabbing, and melting and dripping down... I thought I could feel them dripping into my lungs too. I 100% believed it was happening, but then after a few moments the feeling faded and I realized I hadn't really inhaled ice shards. But it was very unsettling and although I did become delusional briefly, I didn't have anything resembling a normal nitrous experience.

A bit later I tried it again. The same thing happened! Then I tried it again, and this time I held my tongue over the opening as I inhaled to make sure I was really not inhaling ice shards, so they'd hit my tongue and I could be sure. The first hit was fine, except virtually no buzz, and halfway through the second I felt, real as day, ice shards hitting my tongue. Then one got past my tongue and lodged back in my throat, I could feel it also piercing my left lung. I was trying to tell myself it was delusional but it felt as real as anything I'd ever felt and I felt lucid, so again I panicked. It left me really shaken after that, and I kept feeling sore spots in my lungs in the places I thought I felt ice shards, all the way through the rest of the night. Really off-putting. I got a bit drunk later on and tried it one more time and it was back to normal, I had a nice experience again.

Really strange, my friend was getting concerned about me because I couldn't stop talking about it because it was freaking me out.

That sounds like a very interesting combination for a first time with 4-HO-MPT! I haven't taken AL-LAD myself but I know that LSD mixes beautifully with all 4-substituted tryptamines I have tried it with. In fact, on this type of combination I have experienced what I believe is the very thing you are talking about in comparison to ibogaine visuals.... Not exactly the same in every way, but functionally so, in the sense of being able to grab, manipulate, create, and "destroy" visuals. I wonder if the AL-LAD could have contributed to your experience in this way?

Perhaps notably, also at that level of tripping my nitrous experiences also become especially bizarre. I had my only nitrous trip where I was afraid that I would never become sane again afterward that way, I thought that reality was so broken that it simply wasn't possible. Color was no longer even functioning remotely properly, let alone space or time. I didn't have quite the kind of delusion you described on it though, but I have had experiences like that where rather than being the normal dissolution or infinity experience I just start thinking something very wrong but at the time seemingly undeniable. The most memorable one for me is being convinced that I finally understood that all the insane people in the world had actually stumbled upon a divine truth and were now the only ones seeing the light, and now I had come to understand this truth as well and needed to spread it to all of my loved ones. I wasn't sure how to tell them without just sounding insane myself though.... The conundrum.

In any case, 4-HO-MPT definitely has delusional potential for me too though and an extra strong synergy with nitrous as well, so I'm sure that could have added to it as well. Very odd, but interesting. Aside from that, it sounds like an awesome trip! It's cool to see that you found 4-HO-MPT comparable to LSD as well, I'm really looking foward to what you'll have to say about your 50 mg trial. And thanks for sharing this!

 

[Xorkoth]

I think the AL-LAD probably did contribute, even though I had no visuals from it alone and the character of the visuals was not AL-LAD-like. I really liked 4-HO-MPT, it was quite unique and interesting and entirely benign on the body... it was a very calm state of mind.

 

[Kaleida]

Gotcha. I definitely agree with that, it's a wonderful substance. I've got a strong desire to do it again already, maybe in the upcoming week or so.

 

[yepyepwoah]

Went camping this weekend. Took two 10mg doses of 3 meo PCP a few hours apart. A few hours after the second dose ate 60-70mg mxe. That shit hit harrrd.

Sitting there a few feet from a lake with the fire down to embers. The lake looked like it was a 50 foot drop down. Could barely see anything. My brother looked like an alien. Two hours passed like two minutes.

Had 55mg of 2c d which I ended up not taking. Have been tripping lately even though I really haven't wanted too half the time
. Proud of myself for not just saying "fuck it" like normal.

 

[vortech]

A channeled message from Vortech:
Center your Source. Tune your Force.
Embody the empowerment of love and (com)passion- Connect within to that which is without- witness how the dissolution of the illusion of duality affects the qualia of subjective reality.
Silence your phone. Amplify the tone. Unify your stations, harmonize the oscillations.
Store your information in compartmentalizations. Map your channels. Find your flow...or be still if you need to chill. Accept the natural ebbs and flows.
Synchronize your phase. Do not fight what can’t be changed. Everything else is up for game.

 

[Just A Guy]

Sounds pretty intense! Was there any significant psychedelic aspect to it from the 5-MeO-MiPT? I've heard that it can get that way on its own in higher doses. I know at least a couple of people who claim trip harder on it than a lot of other things, though I haven't tried it myself.!

Hardly -- but I'm sure my dose was close to 2 - 3 mg if that. I didn't measure, in fact, it was my allergy test (which is why I was okay to dose at lunch) -- figured I'd get it out of the way before I try to use a significant amount later on, maybe tonight... But nevertheless, I was surprised by the potency of the substance, even in such small amounts.

 

[Kaleida]

Had 55mg of 2c d which I ended up not taking. Have been tripping lately even though I really haven't wanted too half the time
. Proud of myself for not just saying "fuck it" like normal.

I've been in that place before, it's odd. Congrats on not tripping. I think it's a lot better when you just do it whenever the mood strikes.

Hardly -- but I'm sure my dose was close to 2 - 3 mg if that. I didn't measure, in fact, it was my allergy test (which is why I was okay to dose at lunch) -- figured I'd get it out of the way before I try to use a significant amount later on, maybe tonight... But nevertheless, I was surprised by the potency of the substance, even in such small amounts.

I see, well thanks for sharing more. It has always sounded like an interesting substance to me, even if I've had less desire to seek it out relative to others. Definitely let us know how it goes if you try that higher amount tonight!