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Funny you mention DOF, I had a dream about DOF last night, someone I knew in my dream had tried a few doses with no effect, I think up to 40mg, and I was about to try some too and then I woke up.
 
Dammit Xorkoth, I was so ready to read that dream report ;)

[always use a dream sitter]
 
So, since my last post I've heard more from my friend who took the DiPT, the guy who is so sensitive to all psychedelics that he can barely stand tripping anymore. That lucky bastard was actually getting not only the complete spectrum of both almost deafening DiPT-unique audio distortions (which lasted over 24 hours) and intense typical tryptamine audio illusions, but also pretty significant open eye visuals with both colors and patterns all from only 24 mg orally. I would save a fortune on everything if my sensitivity was like that.... It's unfortunate the experiences in general have gotten so difficult for him, but I'm hoping he'll end up getting something out of those other three 12 mg pills he held on to, since he said he did like it overall in the end and really was just caught off guard by the intensity of it. He said it was also incredibly clearheaded for the strength, which is like a huge achievement when it comes to trying to find a good psychedelic for him. So, if anyone else knows someone who is in a similar situation, I would have to say that so far DiPT seems like a feasible option to me....

But anyway....

Well, hello there. It's been a while. ;)

Thank you. I'm excited to try the last of my DOPr this weekend. I'll definitely be reporting on it. The year is almost over, so it'll be one of my final reports too.

Practically the only thing that caught my eye about DOF was that it's basically unexplored, but that there might be some psychedelic effects that are unique to it? That was it, lol. Though I find it interesting, it's not like I can get it anyway. :)

I'm either gonna have to go wild and start imbibing upon substances real quickly, or extend my tripping expiration date a little bit past this year, probably a few weeks into 2016. I'm not sure how I feel about doing combinations with only a day or two worth of rest each time, and I want to indulge in a huge dose of miprocin again before I stash it away. I have a lot less time than many previous years, so it sucks that I've barely tripped the past 6 months when it's supposed to be my last year. In fact, I'm supposed to working on a huge research paper due at 11:59pm tonight in my school's Dropbox, since I only have like 10,000+ more word count-wise to go. -_- that's with more than half already done (at least the proposal and annotated bibliography parts of it are done)...plus I have another essay due tmrw, another on Friday, last final on Wed. morning plus three other short papers (lol, 5-6 pages are considered short...) and I just finished the last portion of my final online so now I'm here for about 20 min...

*headdesk* Anyway, thanks for the tip about bufotenin. I'll look into it this weekend. Yeah,
I'm mostly wanting to experience different effects from the tryptamine class of substances, and from what I gathered 5-meo-mipt's are the most unique, at least according to anecdotal reports. This includes all of the qualities you mentioned, especially the visuals. I guess I like visuals because they're the most prominent effects for me, and they're fun to discern and it just turns the world into a playful, alternate reality that's fun to experience.

Haha, I am usually out of luck like all the time, so it doesn't bother me much. I find that I can handle shitty and disappointing things with a smile, damn rebel in me. Yeah, I'm hoping since 2C-P didn't have body load this time around, that maybe moxy might turn out in a like-wise fashion? We'll see though. I'm most likely going to go lsd/miprocin/2C-B crazy before I try the moxy. Heh, and maybe some mdma mixed in. I think those 3 represent their respective classes pretty well, which will symbolize sort of a farewell tour before I leave out of the scene concerning substance participation.

Be well, Kaleida!

Oh, and hello all. :) Y'all BETTER be doing well too! At least better than I am! I am exhausted, tired and ready to trip ASAP!!

Hey, good to hear back from you on this. :)

I'm definitely looking forward to your DOPR report. I think I may have missed this somewhere, but why are you ending your tripping at the end of the year exactly? I've known that you are but I'm not sure if I've heard the reason. Not that I think it's a bad way to do it, you've had some pretty solid substances lined up for it, but I would be sad if I didn't get to make much of my last six months either!

That sounds awful all the school work, but keep your chin up. :x It will be worth it as long as you get through it okay! I can totally empathize though as I would be going nuts with that much writing to do, I'm a terrible procrastinator so it would definitely all pile up on me....

About the DOF, it was offered to me once but I passed on it. I have an interest in it as a psychedelic chemistry enthusiast, but frankly the idea of a low potency DOx-based primarily stimulant drug sounds terrifying to me lol. After feeling the body load I get even from 2.5 mg of DOC I feel even more certain that I don't really want to risk working with it, I'm already anxious enough about picking up any extra receptor activities from the low potency of DOiP which I've got lined up on my roster. I would certainly be interested in hearing how it effects you though if it ever does come your way....

And no problem, I think you will like bufotenin at least if you are prone to get good effects from 5-substituted tryptamines. It's definitely something you don't want to miss out on at least if you are really curious in what all tryptamines can do, as it did pass some thresholds that the others have not in my opinion. I'm not sure if I've read enough reports on 5-MeO-MiPT to form that kind of opinion about it though, but it does sound interesting to me. I can relate on the visuals, as I would honestly say they're my main reason for tripping. I would still have gotten something out of psychedelics without them, but I would've hung up the phone by now. Visuals are amazing and honestly I think the most important part of the psychological effect for me as well, once things like visions and synesthesia begin to come into play and they cease to be differentiable from everything else happening to you.

I suppose it's interesting that you would comment on the visuals like that because the primary reason that 5-MeO-MiPT is one of the only 5-substituted tryptamines I'm interested in is for the visual potential, as so far I've found the MiPT base (in 4-HO-MiPT and MiPT itself) to produce the most hedonistic visuals of all the tryptamines I've tried, though I haven't gotten either of them to be very strong with eyes open yet. I actually find that quality to be similar to mushrooms and DMT though, in that there seems to be a certain level at which closed eye visuals and mind's eye imagery will predominate while the open eye field is more subtly altered, but pushing beyond that threshold will cause powerful and immersive hallucinations to unfold. That's the impression I've gotten from some people who've taken huge doses of 5-MeO-MiPT before too, and the thought that its metabolite 5-HO-MiPT could be similar to bufotenin just like others MiPTs are the DMTs definitely gets me very intrigued....

Anyway, I hope you are well too. :)
 
Funny you mention DOF, I had a dream about DOF last night, someone I knew in my dream had tried a few doses with no effect, I think up to 40mg, and I was about to try some too and then I woke up.

Haha, hey what's up Xorkoth? An interesting coincidence. :) It almost sounds like a lucid dream to me, which is pretty cool.


Hey, good to hear back from you on this. :)

I'm definitely looking forward to your DOPR report. I think I may have missed this somewhere, but why are you ending your tripping at the end of the year exactly? I've known that you are but I'm not sure if I've heard the reason. Not that I think it's a bad way to do it, you've had some pretty solid substances lined up for it, but I would be sad if I didn't get to make much of my last six months either!

That sounds awful all the school work, but keep your chin up. :x It will be worth it as long as you get through it okay! I can totally empathize though as I would be going nuts with that much writing to do, I'm a terrible procrastinator so it would definitely all pile up on me....

About the DOF, it was offered to me once but I passed on it. I have an interest in it as a psychedelic chemistry enthusiast, but frankly the idea of a low potency DOx-based primarily stimulant drug sounds terrifying to me lol. After feeling the body load I get even from 2.5 mg of DOC I feel even more certain that I don't really want to risk working with it, I'm already anxious enough about picking up any extra receptor activities from the low potency of DOiP which I've got lined up on my roster. I would certainly be interested in hearing how it effects you though if it ever does come your way....

And no problem, I think you will like bufotenin at least if you are prone to get good effects from 5-substituted tryptamines. It's definitely something you don't want to miss out on at least if you are really curious in what all tryptamines can do, as it did pass some thresholds that the others have not in my opinion. I'm not sure if I've read enough reports on 5-MeO-MiPT to form that kind of opinion about it though, but it does sound interesting to me. I can relate on the visuals, as I would honestly say they're my main reason for tripping. I would still have gotten something out of psychedelics without them, but I would've hung up the phone by now. Visuals are amazing and honestly I think the most important part of the psychological effect for me as well, once things like visions and synesthesia begin to come into play and they cease to be differentiable from everything else happening to you.

I suppose it's interesting that you would comment on the visuals like that because the primary reason that 5-MeO-MiPT is one of the only 5-substituted tryptamines I'm interested in is for the visual potential, as so far I've found the MiPT base (in 4-HO-MiPT and MiPT itself) to produce the most hedonistic visuals of all the tryptamines I've tried, though I haven't gotten either of them to be very strong with eyes open yet. I actually find that quality to be similar to mushrooms and DMT though, in that there seems to be a certain level at which closed eye visuals and mind's eye imagery will predominate while the open eye field is more subtly altered, but pushing beyond that threshold will cause powerful and immersive hallucinations to unfold. That's the impression I've gotten from some people who've taken huge doses of 5-MeO-MiPT before too, and the thought that its metabolite 5-HO-MiPT could be similar to bufotenin just like others MiPTs are the DMTs definitely gets me very intrigued....

Anyway, I hope you are well too. :)

Ah, I am okay. At least now I am! After my last final in about 8 hours (gotta take a nap some time before then) and one more paper, I have about a month to just chill. Well, I'll probably be working, but that's fine since unlike this crap, I don't have to worry about being busy after I'm off.

Oh, about quitting, it's something that I've been doing ever since the beginning; I'll just quit for a while, but the reasons differ each time. For this time, it was about concentrating on 'adult' life in the boring, sober sense, but I'm not at the point yet where quitting is going to make a difference since I have about a year left to go. There's going to be times where tripping would be ideal, I'm sure, so it's about keeping my word. It's important to me to do that for myself, if not, then to another poster who I had this talk with just about a year ago. I guess the one similar aspect to all the other times I quit is that I'm also doing it to challenge myself, to use the different perspectives I've learned and apply them into my life in a sober state. Though I'll be the one that can confirm this best, I want to prove that the substances I've taken were not detrimental to my life in any shape or form, and I feel like I can do that best if I stay away from them for an extended period of time; possibly forever. Since, after all, I've already proven that they haven't been for me while I've been taking them. I've been really productive this year, probably the most I've ever been. :) Even though I've had some of the craziest substance experiences this year.

Thanks, I will (nice hint, btw). Me too, though I feel like procrastinating is super helpful; the pressure allows me to put out quality work in a short amount of time, so I would argue that it is quite efficient. When I don't, I take so much longer, do worse and lose my train of thought when I get back, so I stopped doing the work early. =D Ah ya, your empathy is clearly on another level like a few others on here. It's very impressive, and rare.

Ah, I do love me some stimulants time to time, so it does sound appealing. I'll be trying DOC on New Year's Eve, as I have that one planned out already and ready to go. Though there's a limit, like say 400mg of 5-mapb stimulation is shockingly cold...

Haha, I love that you have a roster of available stuff, while I have roster that resembles a wish list. =/ Eth-lad, 2C-C,
more DOPr, tons of DOxs, 4 subs, the 5's, 6-mapb, and I did want to try a dissociative at least once...mxe or the classic ket.

Cool. Yeah, I'm usually able to get the best effects out of substances (though lsd has been a glaring hit-or-miss exception up until this year), so I'm not too worried...the safety issues do seem troubling, but dosing control should do it. I've never titrated, but after learning about the ease of which it can be done with literally just easily-attainable materials and simple math required, I feel like I'm ready to try that. That's actually how I'm going to take the DOC on NYE. :)

Yes, the visuals and high (as in body buzz and euphoria) are what I look for now, almost exclusively. The reason being that I'm content with my spiritual and mental state of affairs, and I worked hard to mold it as it is, so I'm not interested in improving those aspects through substances anymore (unless I have a real need, or spiritual/mental crisis). After all
the business and stress I've been handling for awhile, I just need some fun/recreation and relaxation.

Thanks for the elaboration on the 5 subs. Your explanations are solid and I'll be using that info to make a decision. :)
 
Well, congrats on getting through the finals. :) I bet the break will definitely be worth it!

That totally makes sense to me about keeping promises to yourself about regulating and analyzing your own drug use. I think it's very important to be able to do that when it feels right. It's unfortunate that you will have to miss out on some things because of that, but I support your commitment. And not tripping for a while really does give you time to think about other things in life I think....

I have no idea what any dose of 5-MAPB feels like, but I'll take your word for it lol. I really do not enjoy stimulants at all if I am being honest.... I already have a lot of natural mental and physical energy that needs releasing so adding much more to that can easily make me anxious and tense. Pretty much the only kinds of energy boosts that feel totally clean and euphoric to me now are those caused by LSD, tryptamines, and certain opioids like hydrocodone. I actually took some tapentadol for the first time a few hours ago as well and even the stimulation from that was a little uncomfortable for me, but as a tramadol relative I suspect that could be from monoaminergic stimulant activities as well. Of course, psychedelics are my preferred option by far anyway, and I actually find the stimulation they cause to be highly enjoyable as long as they are also easy on the body.

Your wish list resembles mine. :) I still also haven't tried ETH-LAD, 2C-C, or DOPR (though I do have that one), but I'm very intrigued by all three. I would also really like to experience MXE at least once just because of how popular it got... though I have to say that my one trial with ketamine was not really that exciting. I'm not that big on dissociatives aside from nitrous though.

Titrating is nice, I kind of wish I had done that with DOC too because it probably would have helped me avoid that body load lol. I've heard of people doing that with smoking bufotenin slowly too, so I'm sure it's manageable, though I wonder how well it stacks with short-term tolerance since I know that you don't have a huge opportunity window with something like DMT. It's interesting that you had trouble getting consistently good effects out of LSD before, were you just taking it in bad settings or something?

That's how I feel with the visuals and things too, I've gotten a lot of good self-therapy out of psychedelics before but most of the time when I'm tripping now I just don't have a whole lot of questions like that I still really feel the need to bring into the experience with me. I still think about my life of course while tripping, but a lot more casually now. I've actually been having a lot of epiphanies about my psychedelic use lately which I think is at least partly the result of starting to understand the interrelationships between all of my preferred substances... and especially in relation to feeling like I'm starting to understand which psychedelics seem to be the healthiest and most positively reinforcing to mind as versus which ones seem to have less desirable effects on my psyche, even if they are fascinating in their own right. I am actually getting to a point where I'm not planning to stop tripping overall, but I mostly just going to be focused on my select few favorite psychedelics and once I run out of everything else I'll just pretty much be putting that sort of experimentation behind me.... As much as I enjoy exploring as many different new psychedelic states of mind as possible, I really am excited to start building deeper relationships with the substances that really seem to have the most intimate relationships with my mind now instead.

And no problem, I hope whatever decision you make is to your liking. :)
 
Well, congrats on getting through the finals. :) I bet the break will definitely be worth it!

That totally makes sense to me about keeping promises to yourself about regulating and analyzing your own drug use. I think it's very important to be able to do that when it feels right. It's unfortunate that you will have to miss out on some things because of that, but I support your commitment. And not tripping for a while really does give you time to think about other things in life I think....

I have no idea what any dose of 5-MAPB feels like, but I'll take your word for it lol. I really do not enjoy stimulants at all if I am being honest.... I already have a lot of natural mental and physical energy that needs releasing so adding much more to that can easily make me anxious and tense. Pretty much the only kinds of energy boosts that feel totally clean and euphoric to me now are those caused by LSD, tryptamines, and certain opioids like hydrocodone. I actually took some tapentadol for the first time a few hours ago as well and even the stimulation from that was a little uncomfortable for me, but as a tramadol relative I suspect that could be from monoaminergic stimulant activities as well. Of course, psychedelics are my preferred option by far anyway, and I actually find the stimulation they cause to be highly enjoyable as long as they are also easy on the body.

Your wish list resembles mine. :) I still also haven't tried ETH-LAD, 2C-C, or DOPR (though I do have that one), but I'm very intrigued by all three. I would also really like to experience MXE at least once just because of how popular it got... though I have to say that my one trial with ketamine was not really that exciting. I'm not that big on dissociatives aside from nitrous though.

Titrating is nice, I kind of wish I had done that with DOC too because it probably would have helped me avoid that body load lol. I've heard of people doing that with smoking bufotenin slowly too, so I'm sure it's manageable, though I wonder how well it stacks with short-term tolerance since I know that you don't have a huge opportunity window with something like DMT. It's interesting that you had trouble getting consistently good effects out of LSD before, were you just taking it in bad settings or something?

That's how I feel with the visuals and things too, I've gotten a lot of good self-therapy out of psychedelics before but most of the time when I'm tripping now I just don't have a whole lot of questions like that I still really feel the need to bring into the experience with me. I still think about my life of course while tripping, but a lot more casually now. I've actually been having a lot of epiphanies about my psychedelic use lately which I think is at least partly the result of starting to understand the interrelationships between all of my preferred substances... and especially in relation to feeling like I'm starting to understand which psychedelics seem to be the healthiest and most positively reinforcing to mind as versus which ones seem to have less desirable effects on my psyche, even if they are fascinating in their own right. I am actually getting to a point where I'm not planning to stop tripping overall, but I mostly just going to be focused on my select few favorite psychedelics and once I run out of everything else I'll just pretty much be putting that sort of experimentation behind me.... As much as I enjoy exploring as many different new psychedelic states of mind as possible, I really am excited to start building deeper relationships with the substances that really seem to have the most intimate relationships with my mind now instead.

And no problem, I hope whatever decision you make is to your liking. :)

Thanks. I'm kind of bored now, since I also have a lot of natural energy and now I don't have much to do. But it's nice to be able to rest during this time of the year.

Indeed, this would be my third time quitting, and every time I would miss the hell out of tripping. But then it would bring me back to the days that I was sober 24/7, and fortunately I would eventually start to be content with it (grudgingly so).

I'll still be smoking herb though. It seems you partake in that too? Hopefully you vote yes to whatever proposition is pro-marijuana in your state (if applicable). :) I know I'll be doing so here in Cali. I can't wait until it's legalized! That'll get rid of its negative stigma.

Ah yeah, stimulants are popular for a certain segment of people, usually the ones who enjoy uppers and who rarely get the bad side effects like paranoia, dizziness, dysphoria, etc. It's hard on the body for some, so it's understandable. I still like them, even though I haven't used them in a while (amps/meth, mdma is an exception though).

With lsd, I had a bad trip where I was just seeing all these negative images and my mind was going in circles; the infamous thought loop, and hearing my insecure thoughts play out over and over. I was 19 at the time, and I think it was within my first 10 trips with it. It was also my first time taking what was supposedly ~300mcg. Ever since then, the euphoria that used to come with it stopped (unless it was candyflipped), and my friends loved it and would trip with lsd specifically about 90% of the time that we trip, so...they would literally just pressure me into doing it. It sounds bad, but at least they would always watch out for me in return. Most of the time it would be okay, but a few years later I had a really terrifying trip that kind of scarred me for a while, so I eventually stopped taking it. After finally taking some this year again, the euphoria came back (ha, I'm surprised) and now I'm good with it.

Hmm, yes, definitely apply some serenity into your life through all of the hustle and bustle. It's important to be calm on the outside, and then work your way in by applying metacognition. This world IS stressful, which is why I think it's important to stay positive. :) It's easy to get stuck in the abyss, as I remember it all too well myself. But things never stay down forever.

Cool. It really is a good idea to find a couple psychs that resonate with you the most, so that you have some fall-back substances, and the chance to delve into all of the different levels that they have. I find that each and every substance also contains 'variations within itself' depending on the dose, combination and set and setting. This is really enjoyable to explore on a substance that you prefer.

Haha, me too. But what I like tends to depend on something else besides my own wants...=D. Have a good day, and remember to relax and toss away the stressors in your life once in a while! Don't think too much...:)
 
I'm having wicked closed-eyes visuals from the 4-meo-pcp I have been playing around with the past couple days. I like how it is a very clear disccociative but with effects that are very present when tuned in. Once over the tolerance hump of a 12-24 hours it is very functional. I become a chaemeleon of sorts, but one with a little bit of spacetime dislexisa. Like spaces and times from the past and future present themsleves mixed up without careful corrections.
 
Holy cow, I certainly don't mean to be rude, but I can't catch up on this question at the moment. I am realizing that disassociation is a lot more profound that I thought. I mean.This is quite weird. I started with 10mg insufflated, an hour later, 10mg more, same ROA. Then, 20mg plugged, and in 10 minutes, the corners have apart and are turning inward kind of like a carnival ride. Wow. Don't know if I like it, I mean, I can like it if I want to. Do I? I do. Wow. Someone was prank calling me on my cell phone, asking me about my couch. They wanted my couch. Would I please send them my couch? (I'm laying on my couch.) Oh boy. I feel like the Quantum Leap guy. This is interesting, and novel that's for sure. It's spongy. No matter what, though, right now, anyway, I can't get the big picture. It's like alcohol tracers, drunkenness, while remaining sharp in mind. I could be focused. In fact, my fingers are, to be able to type this stuff. The sounds the keys make are echoing in this chamber of a room (it's ordinarily not a chamber at all.) It chamberfor right now, though. Soft sponges on my ears pressing and licking lovingly should I lay?
 
Trozzle. Has my ship sunk? This is just so weird. I had the neighbors come over, and they wanted to see if I had a metal box for which they could put vampire teeth in, and I went into the basement, and it's like everything is moving at 10 frames per second, I can only hope that I am speaking at the right speed but just not aware of myself at the right speed. I hope. Otherwise, later I'm going to have to have a talk about why I was moving in slow motion and all of that.
 
Well, as I watched this, I am slowly coming back into the full faculty of my peripheral vision. Amazing video.



Thanks, Pharmakos. This is an incredible substance. DXM never got me here. Peripheral and depth. MXE, that is. I failed to mention that.
 
Yeah MXE is pretty righteous.

I went with my brother to his friends' house to play Magic with a bunch of dudes last night... it was fun. I got offered some cocaine and did about $20 worth, which was also fun but DAMN was it cut, like 6 lines were a little above threshold.
 
is there anything worse, I mean just disheartening and abjectly offensive, in the drug world than shitty coke?
ok, well, fentadope and nbomacid but I guess just speaking in terms of things that won't kill you
 
It's up there for sure. It's also very common apparently. I've done coke twice in the past like 2 years, both times given to me, and both times it was so weak. And both times the person who gave it to me seemed to think it was good, too.
 
custie people really, really unironically like shit coke
the worst thing about shit coke is when you start doing it you still want to do more of it
and the morning after doing a bunch of shit coke is really really really up there
good coke OTOH is one of the better things in the drug world
coca tea is great too, shout out to you know who you are
 
So I finally ended up taking 50 mg of 4-HO-MiPT yesterday, it was a wild ride. I just posted a trip report if anyone is curious. :)

(4-HO-MiPT/50 mg) - Fourth Time - Extreme Distortion

I think my favorite thing about it at the moment is the pitch distortion it caused, that was really fun to experience alongside more typical mushroom-like tryptamine psychedelia.

Kl519, yes I do smoke the herb and it's not legal here yet but I'm hoping it will be soon. :) And I totally get that about your experiences with LSD.... I've had that happen before where having negative experiences will cause enjoyable aspects of a trip to disappear for a while, but eventually I've always been able to move beyond those ruts, thankfully. I'm glad to hear that you seem to have been able to as well.

I also find that every safe enough substance I've tried seems to contain various plateaus based on the doses that you take, it's something I find very interesting when it comes to figuring out which doses work best for me with which drugs. The 4-HO-MiPT is a good example, as it was pretty different for me in many ways at 50 mg than at 30 mg or below.
 
custie people really, really unironically like shit coke
the worst thing about shit coke is when you start doing it you still want to do more of it
and the morning after doing a bunch of shit coke is really really really up there
good coke OTOH is one of the better things in the drug world
coca tea is great too, shout out to you know who you are

Yeah coca tea is nice, I had it twice. I've also had good coke before and it is indeed a great thing, if you don't overdo it. Very potent, and very clean-feeling and euphoric.

So I finally ended up taking 50 mg of 4-HO-MiPT yesterday, it was a wild ride. I just posted a trip report if anyone is curious. :)

(4-HO-MiPT/50 mg) - Fourth Time - Extreme Distortion

I think my favorite thing about it at the moment is the pitch distortion it caused, that was really fun to experience alongside more typical mushroom-like tryptamine psychedelia.

Kl519, yes I do smoke the herb and it's not legal here yet but I'm hoping it will be soon. :) And I totally get that about your experiences with LSD.... I've had that happen before where having negative experiences will cause enjoyable aspects of a trip to disappear for a while, but eventually I've always been able to move beyond those ruts, thankfully. I'm glad to hear that you seem to have been able to as well.

I also find that every safe enough substance I've tried seems to contain various plateaus based on the doses that you take, it's something I find very interesting when it comes to figuring out which doses work best for me with which drugs. The 4-HO-MiPT is a good example, as it was pretty different for me in many ways at 50 mg than at 30 mg or below.

Nice report as usual. :) I've gotta take it at that sort of level sometime. I don't have much left though, my friends love it and I've shared a lot of it and used it a good handful of times at the 25-30mg level because it's so nice. I have over 50mg left but I like to trip with a friend these days more than alone because I feel it adds more to the experience for me at this stage in my life, usually (assuming a good tripping companion of course, which I have several of).
 
Thanks once again. :) I was in the same boat with my supply, I kept using it at lower doses and sharing it and I ended up not having that much left. I decided to go for it though as I'm currently working towards my goal of trying all the 4-HOs at at least 50 mg, as that generally seems to be where most of their full potentials really start to shine through for me. I really do enjoy the lower doses of 4-HO-MiPT a lot more though, but it was still definitely a worthwhile experience. I'm definitely looking forward to my last trip on a lower dose again though, I think I'll likely save it for the proper company. :)
 
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