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[Thanatos]

^ I started smoking everyday when I was 13 as well. I'm not sure how bad it really screwed me up because i really just stopped smokin regularly about 7-8 months ago. Not enough Tim has elapsed to expose its true long term effects.

So have any of you guys experienced 2C-D in high dose? I'm trying to plan my next order and I've never grabbed and 2C-D before, but I'm not sure if it's worth it over lovely 2C-C. Any thoughts on what I should do? It'll be awhile until I make a decision but I like to think about it months in advance.

 

[PepperSocks]

I'd take 2C-C over 2C-D. 2C-D is very 'blah' IME. I've taken up to 40mg of it. It can be quite psychedelic in an introspective sense, but I didn't find it had any positive euphoria to it. It was almost tryptamine-ish in the lack of positive push.

2C-C is the closest thing to 2C-B. It's very psychedelic, but it feels like a proper phenethylamine with empathogenisis and stuff. 35mg of 2C-C felt like a solid 25mg 2C-B trip.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

^I regret never picking up 2C-C back in my buying things on the internet phase. It sounds like it'd fill a nice niche, otherwise, I'm content with/excited to move on to the classic botanicals (I put off DMT/Mescaline in particular) in the future. They will be magical, or the very least events to remember. I know I've said numerous times, but my ability to resist instant gratification has only decreased as the years have passed, and this is the one conspicuous exception. It says something about what psychedelics mean to me, I think, and my love/respect for them.

crystal...The last time I was at a friends place and they said it was $20 more than usual and I said "that's all I got"

Dang, that's ridiculous. My experiences were more like,
"Hey dawg, this isn't very much, can you throw down another $20?"
"Sorry, that's all I got."
"Oh man, really? Here's a lil' extra to help you out."

 

[PepperSocks]

^ Yeah, it's about the people, not the drug. If my MDMA hook-ups had it I'm sure they'd be much more pleasant.

 

[Thanatos]

Thanks for the input P-Sox. You da man! :D

Dang, that's ridiculous. My experiences were more like,
"Hey dawg, this isn't very much, can you throw down another $20?"
"Sorry, that's all I got."
"Oh man, really? Here's a lil' extra to help you out."

Damn every time I ever went to grab a couple balls, or even a teenager it was always serious business. Dudes with guns and the whole shebang, even though I knew them. It's an epidemic in my region of the us, everyone into twack is sketchy as fuck. I'd rather go grab a fat sack of blow and rock it up myself any day.

 

[PepperSocks]

Thanks for the input P-Sox. You da man! :D

No prob. I should mention though I'm known for being a major psychedelic lightweight. Lots of people say 2C-C is weak, but weak doses to a lot of people is strong doses for me. For example I never had much need for going higher than 250ug of LSD; full blown as full blown can get, yet people on here dose milligrams. YMMV. I think the big thing is in the character; 2C-C has empathogenesis, you just might need 45-50 to get what I get with 35.

I'd rather go grab a fat sack of blow and rock it up myself any day.

Funny thing, the guy I got that from also had some crack and he smoked some while he was there and after he left we found a rock on the floor. For shits just to say "yeah, I've smoked crack" I took a hit of it. It was just like 'Whoaaa' of a headrush, then 'meh', done by 3-4 minutes. So yeah I've smoked crack, but it was hard for me to see how people get so into it that they ruin their lives. The headrush on exhale is cool, in a novelty sort of way, but the duration is so not worth what it costs and long term addiction.

I find long lasting drugs more addictive because there's much more to it; much more value, and more 'stuff' to sink yourself into.

 

[EarthBounded]

Ahhhh I miss you PD peeps! Many positive life changes have distracted me from Ethnobotanical and Pharmacological studies. Just saying what up hopefully I get my free time back to go make some good old BL rants

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Damn every time I ever went to grab a couple balls, or even a teenager it was always serious business. Dudes with guns and the whole shebang, even though I knew them.

Well if you go to a gang run house, things are like that. I dunno, I usually went with a guy I knew, who was supporting his own habit, didn't get what I paid for, but the customer service was worth the premium IMO.

Brain fried out early, started herb at 13

>_>
<_< (Started drugs at 18, didn't try herb til age 20. Man, I feel like the black sheep of the group right now.)

Funny thing, the guy I got that from also had some crack and he smoked some while he was there and after he left we found a rock on the floor. For shits just to say "yeah, I've smoked crack" I took a hit of it.

The one thing I turned down the opportunity to try. I dunno, high:fiending ratio of vaped meth was as bad I wanted to get, and I'd rather not experience that ever again.

Ahhhh I miss you PD peeps! Many positive life changes have distracted me

Do tell about the positive life changes, we could use the fresh air. :D

 

[Roger&Me]

so i ran into two of my ex girlfriends tonight. one at the liquor store, and the other at the grocery store that i went to right after the liquor store. wat the fuck is the universe trying to tell me with that shit?

it was strange and awkward to say the least. one of them doesn't even live in this city anymore, she just happened to be visiting

i did get some lagunitas ipa, palate wrecker, and bigfoot barleywine though. so that was good. drinking a lagunitas right now.

 

[PepperSocks]

The one thing I turned down the opportunity to try. I dunno, high:fiending ratio of vaped meth was as bad I wanted to get, and I'd rather not experience that ever again.

Yeah, I was already on meth so the fiending for more crack wouldn't be as prevalent. I know what you mean about vaped meth though; ugh, worst ROA. Just edgyness and wanting more (for some reason), never again. I find the longer the onset of stimulants is, the nicer the resulting high, hence why oral dosing is my preferred ROA.

Do tell about the positive life changes, we could use the fresh air. :D

No kidding. We're all victims of these evil psychedelic gateway drugs. Do tell

wat the fuck is the universe trying to tell me with that shit?

Are you blind? It's obvious that you should have picked one up for cuddling and cervix pile-driving, unless of course you already have one of those apparatuses.

i did get some lagunitas ipa, palate wrecker, and bigfoot barleywine though. so that was good. drinking a lagunitas right now.

Nice name lol. I'm going to pop a beer myself

 

[Thanatos]

Beer sounds really tempting, but I'm determined to not break my alcohol cessiation again anytime soon. Alcohol bring out the mega douche-sloppy asshole side of me so easily.

 

[PepperSocks]

^ That always happens to me when I drink to reduce anxiety when I feel awkward in a social situation. I overcompensate and just start being a stupid douchey ass-hole.

When drinking on my own I don't have that social awkwardness to overcompensate for so it doesn't hurt anyone.

My posts might get a bit more impulsive and douchey: Sorry Rog, just being an impulsive drugged douche thinking of cozy girl feelings

 

[Roger&Me]

Are you blind? It's obvious that you should have picked one up for cuddling and cervix pile-driving

lol i kinda tried but i was thrown off my game by the randomness of it all, especially the second one in a span of 15 minutes

plus hooking up with ex's generally feels weird and makes me sad about life and the nature of human relationships, etc

Nice name lol.

lol i wonder what it says about me that i took a sip of palate wrecker and my first thought was "aw man, not hoppy enough man.... you guys promised this would be so hoppy it would ruin my palate forever". i was disappointed. i want a beer so full of hop terpenes that it strips the flesh off the inside of my mouth and kills me :D

My posts might get a bit more impulsive and douchey: Sorry Rog, just being an impulsive drugged douche thinking of cozy girl feelings

haha man you should have seen some of the crazy shit i posted in the lounge while drinking heavily over the holidays. when i sobered up i was like "holy fucking jesus, i really am a shitbag"

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

^How d'ya like that one juniper IPA amongst the cheaper stuff? I forget the brand.

That always happens to me when I drink to reduce anxiety when I feel awkward in a social situation. I overcompensate and just start being a stupid douchey ass-hole.

I know what you mean, drinking to reduce social anxiety makes me waaaaaaay more likely to overdo it. Combine this with meth, and I have burned bridges with old friends (folks who never went harder than cannabis) due to my extreme inability to control my mouth/lack of tact.

I know what you mean about vaped meth though; ugh, worst ROA. Just edgyness and wanting more (for some reason), never again. I find the longer the onset of stimulants is, the nicer the resulting high, hence why oral dosing is my preferred ROA.

Tell me about it! Vaped meth is 1-2 hours fun, spend the next 24+ hours smoking compulsively to avoid comedown. Oral isn't quite my thing, settled on intranasal since I can time my peak (dose low enough so this is the only recreational portion) for music appreciation, then utilize increased productivity/focus and still be able to sleep at night.

i did get some lagunitas ipa, palate wrecker, and bigfoot barleywine though. so that was good. drinking a lagunitas right now.

Nice, very nice. Today is one of my two drinking days this week, had a bomber of Sierra Nevada pale ale, gonna move onto some some single malt scotch (McClelland is no Laphroaig, the flavor lacks complexity, and the light peatiness is for n00bs/women, not a man's drink like a quality Islay. I should feel like I'm drinking campfire-smoke and ocean air, not generic scotch with a hint of those things) in my game session which I gotta leave for right now (we spend as much time drinking/joking around as playing, lol).

 

[Roger&Me]

McClelland is no Laphroaig

oh man, respekt.

not many people know about laphroaig, and probably even fewer people can actually stomach it

but mmmmhhmmmmm, dat peatiness. i want my scotch to taste like gasoline, tyvm :D

 

[Roger&Me]

seeing my ex's made me think of this song

this is my favorite version



did you ever awaken to the sound of street cats making love? and think from their cries that you were listening to a fight...

 

[PepperSocks]

lol i kinda tried but i was thrown off my game by the randomness of it all, especially the second one in a span of 15 minutes

plus hooking up with ex's generally feels weird and makes me sad about life and the nature of human relationships, etc

Yeah I know what you mean. It still crushes me that 8 years ago I didn't know what I know now. How my life would be different. There's no point beating around the bush; I'm not over her. I'm not as dependant as I used to be and not as melodramatic, but there's not a day that goes by where I don't think of her. That's life though, blessed to feel such things

lol i wonder what it says about me that i took a sip of palate wrecker and my first thought was "aw man, not hoppy enough man.... you guys promised this would be so hoppy it would ruin my palate forever". i was disappointed. i want a beer so full of hop terpenes that it strips the flesh off the inside of my mouth and kills me :D

Have you thought of simply buying some hops and chewing on them? You might just like it I often feel that too. I'll get a super hopped out beer and be satisfied for a bit, but after the first or second (even on separate days) I'm like 'this is actually kind of bland, I want more'. I'm not sure what drinking a lager would be like anymore; totally spoiled taste buds.

I just wanted to let you guys know that coming back here was the best thing I could have possibly done. My thoughts compared to 3 weeks ago are much more positive and open.

I don't know why I try to hide it. I think it's because I've been through the extreme case and excessive use is frowned upon. As you may be able to tell by posting style I've taken some amps today. I'm even averse to calling it 'meth'; to me in oral ~15mg dosing form it's more like 'amp' in connotation. Anyways I do enjoy it from time to time, and tonight especially it's taken on an old, good character. It feels more like fun amp of 2010 than psychosis of 2013. This is what I was aiming for when I tried amps after my forced hiatus. I was worried that I would never experience 'fun amp' again, because my recent experiences had undeniable elements of excessive use and fiending. I was sensitized to that raw, selfish desire of the crude dopamine flood.

Now through difference in thinking, back to fun 2010-type thinking facilitated by PD social, I'm totally accepting of the fun, non-excessive side of amps. Part of that is not feeling guilty about indulging in a former bain. When not using it to escape from reality in a flood of dopamine it's not a bain at all.

Anyways, you guys are awesome, I'd be in a much worse place without you.

 

[Roger&Me]

There's no point beating around the bush; I'm not over her.

do any of us actually get over them? girls seem to have a much easier time getting over relationships... they possess this preternatural ability to just move on.

every girl i've ever loved from the time i was in 3rd grade... i still love them

it really sucks

 

[Thanatos]

^ know that feel. Like really bad
It hurts me especially bad since the current boyfriend of one of my ex's threatened to kill me just for hanging out with a mutual friend of hers :/

It probably doesn't help that I got her pregnant and she had a miscarriage..

 

[PepperSocks]

do any of us actually get over them? girls seem to have a much easier time getting over relationships... they possess this preternatural ability to just move on.

every girl i've ever loved from the time i was in 3rd grade... i still love them

it really sucks

Yeah, girls are so much better at moving on an being more independent in general. I still love anyone I've been involved with, the difference between them and the last one, is that I can go for long periods of time without thoughts of them making me sad or anxious.

The thing with the last one is that she's still as single as I am, we also never told the other that we didn't love them or didn't want to see them. With my obsessiveness and dependant pressure I put on her I see how I scared her away and she had to distance herself. She acknowledged my mental illness as an illness I had to deal with myself, pushed me away, but with a temporary 'air' that didn't burn bridges. No doubt she's got more of a successful social life than I do, but also no doubt that we share an unbreakable bond. She has more of a social life, but she knows it's shallow. I know her like no one else can, and am the only true stability in being her other half.

It's the kind of thing where we're going to get back together when we grow up a bit, gain more self-confidence and don't take things so seriously and dramatically, or we're going to live out our separate lives single. I don't feel that the latter is a possibility, it's an eventuality that just needs to come into it's own.

It's a state of connected limbo that is anguishing and comforting at the same time. Such is life. Love hurts.

edit: that's the first I've talked about her in ages. It feels so much better than how I used to feel talking about her. I don't feel ashamed of feeling too dramatic or too open. The fear of appearing too emotionally available just breeds awkwardness and makes things more artificial; trying to put up an afront like a cool guy. Feels good to scream it from the rooftops in an honest, open way.

Who ever said amphetamines, codeine, or beer aren't psychedelics? I think our minds are mind-manifesting on their own.