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I ditched/burned a pretty huge apothecary several years back, quite amazing to see over 50 psychoactive chemicals rise on the winds (like antennas) to heaven. Quite depressing too!

I used to love my psychedelic cabinet of curiousities, where I had mutliple small samples of stuff that I didn't even remember getting. I had a sample of most of the TMA series, early 25x-nbome, DOT/Aleph 1, 3C-E, some other shit, but it all burned.

I now maintain a small working stash i.e. with items I will ingest (maybe 7 members). I feel like there is not much point in collecting drugs you will never use. Its a liability, particularly if you are often fucked up on disinhibitory substances as once I was. I would have to write down my doses of psychedelics because I just wouldn't remember what I'd taken; HR at its best, particularly helpful when I couldn't focus my eyes for about 3 months.

I was seriously considering trashing my entire stash during a very bad break down/panic not too long ago. It was not related to drugs but still didn't want to risk it getting found and also didn't feel like I'd want to do anything again. Thankfully I'm doing a little better now and very glad I didn't throw my stash out since some of it is pretty rare and I can't get stuff like I used to. Although there is some drugs I have that I will most likely trash since I never plan on doing them. I just got them as free samples with orders. When I do start tripping again which wont be until I am less stressed and not so busy I think maybe I should start doing stuff I haven't done in a very long time or something new. DPT might be a good one to start back up with, I've been meaning to plug mine for forever but always put it off for other drugs.


I've always found arachnophobia (among most phobias, given how a phobia is defined) as rather silly. I mean yeah sure I'm startled when I pick shit up to find it crawling with a few nasty red backs or white tails underneath, but ultimately the way I see it is I hold more power over their life in my little finger than it could hope to hold over mine, unless I go out of my way to get bitten. I'm honestly more 'afraid' of flying insects trying to get in my ears or some shit hahaha

Though I guess this has a lot to do with having been raised in south-east Aus, where poisonous creatures (and often deadly in the case of snakes) run rampant. If I survived childhood with a back yard such as that at my parent's place, ain't nothing gon' kill me! hahaha
Yea I was never really afraid of spiders or anything like that and always found it weird when people would just freak out by seeing a spider or lizard just crawling on the ground. When I was in elementary school I used to collect spiders, lizards, frogs, ect. In 1st grade for career day I actually dressed up as an arachnicologist.
 
Does The Shining creep any of you out? It's not Jack Nicholson's fault, he did a fantastic performance in that film, couldn't have been better. It just doesn't scare me. Of course, when I watched it with my significant other, she was scared shitless and had to stay the night with me -_-

Yeah, this film has both creeped me out and then decidedly NOT creeped me. I find the music by Penderecki to be seriously grating. Also, in agreeance with Stephen King, that Nicholson seemed nuts the whole time; the descent to madness was more like a increase into an already evident madness.


I'm getting called in for jury duty. Alas, the chances of actually being selected for a trial are slim. I can only hope. I'd like to be involved with a civil suit this time, did a criminal one last time.

That's intriguing. Can you discuss your previous criminal case? I've never beenc alled up myself...


I was seriously considering trashing my entire stash during a very bad break down/panic not too long ago. It was not related to drugs but still didn't want to risk it getting found and also didn't feel like I'd want to do anything again. Thankfully I'm doing a little better now and very glad I didn't throw my stash out since some of it is pretty rare and I can't get stuff like I used to. Although there is some drugs I have that I will most likely trash since I never plan on doing them. I just got them as free samples with orders. When I do start tripping again which wont be until I am less stressed and not so busy I think maybe I should start doing stuff I haven't done in a very long time or something new. DPT might be a good one to start back up with, I've been meaning to plug mine for forever but always put it off for other drugs.

See, I've regretted it but I absolutely had to at the time, both because of pressing delusional psychotic thought process from benzo w/d and a genuine LE interest in me and my brother at the time.

Love ya'll <3 <3
 
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Yea I was never really afraid of spiders or anything like that and always found it weird when people would just freak out by seeing a spider or lizard just crawling on the ground. When I was in elementary school I used to collect spiders, lizards, frogs, ect. In 1st grade for career day I actually dressed up as an arachnicologist.

I don't get the lizard/snake/mouse thing. I mean I'm cautious of snakes, to be sure, because a lot of them are poisonous. But I think they look so awesome and are amazing creatures. We did a work survey (for fun) at my work and one of the questions was "what word comes to mind when you think of snakes". Literally like 75% of the people said "freaky" or "scary". Another 15% said "slimy" or "gross". Only maybe 10% said something like I did, which was "cool" or "beautiful". In reality snakes aren't slimy at all. They're magnificent creatures, though creatures to be cautious of.

Lizards are just cute... we have a bunch here. And some people are seriously afraid of mice... I don't get it. When I see one in my house I tell my cats (though they already know every time), because I don't want them in my food, but I also think they're cute and I feel bad that they couldn't have just stayed out of the cats' territory.

Yeah, this film has both creeped me out and then decidedly NOT creeped me. I find the music by Penderecki to be seriously grating. Also, in agreeance with Stephen King, that Nicholson seemed nuts the whole time; the descent to madness was more like a increase into an already evident madness.

The music is part of the creepiness... like with The Exorcist and The Ring. Grating, yes, but that's part of the point. And yeah, Nicholson definitely seemed tense and dark and nearly nuts even from the beginning. I've never read the book so I only have the original movie for reference. To me it added to the atmosphere... where not even for a single moment of the movie was there anything but encroaching darkness. Even in the opening credits where they're driving in the mountains towards the hotel, it's despondent almost.

willow11 said:
Love ya'll <3 <3

Love you too brother. :)
 
The music is part of the creepiness... like with The Exorcist and The Ring. Grating, yes, but that's part of the point. And yeah, Nicholson definitely seemed tense and dark and nearly nuts even from the beginning. I've never read the book so I only have the original movie for reference. To me it added to the atmosphere... where not even for a single moment of the movie was there anything but encroaching darkness. Even in the opening credits where they're driving in the mountains towards the hotel, it's despondent almost.
I totally agree, the music plays an important role in creating the atmosphere to be sure. *warning spoilers!!!* The first scene where Nicholson is being interviewed, he's already seemingly bonkers. And in that scene where they're talking about the Donner party turning cannibals he's like, "See honey, it's okay, he learned it on the TV!" and he just seems like he's already at wits end before they even get to the hotel. All the acting in that film is superb, from the little boy who played Danny, to his mother's character, and of course Jack with his, "I don't wana hurt you... I just wana bash your brains in!"

I think it might have been the MXE that removed me from any fear this last viewing. I was too disconnected from reality or something. Normally I have to look away in that scene with that rotten lady, but I was able to watch right on through this time with ease.
 
Yeah that rotten lady scene always freaked me out the most too.

I've got some anxiety today, strange. It's getting cold, and my house isn't too warm right now, I think it may be contributing to my discomfort. I'm gonna go buy some kerosene so I can turn on my heater, maybe that will help.

I think my long ibogaine afterglow is finally just a memory... it helped me to learn to deal with things in a healthy manner when I really needed that, and now it's time to do that again on my own. I wonder if it's also because I haven't been spending the time outside that I had been all summer. Time to ruminate on the things that are causing me to feel off...
 
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^I have days of inexplicable anxiety myself. I thought quitting pot would help remedy this, but I've still been having them. Then some days I wake up, and I feel freakin amazing. I can't understand my own psyche.
 
Woot, the day after tomorrow and it's Creature Carnival time :D I've never seen Shpongle or Beats Antique live, but from what I've seen on the interwebs it looks like they both put on a hell of a show on their own - I can hardly imagine the awesomesauce they'll cook up working together. Definitely gonna roll, but I still have to make up my mind and decide whether to pair the molly with acid, 2CB, or the always popular "¿por qué no los dos?" option ;)

Oh, random question - does anyone here know anything about vilazodone (aka Viibryd)? A good friend of mine who is also going to this show started taking it a couple weeks ago, and is bummed since SSRIs screw with MDMA and psychedelics. I don't know much about SSRIs really, I've heard they tend to completely mute the positive effects of MDMA and that they have inconsistent effects on serotonergic psychedelics, sometimes reducing effects and sometimes now - is that about right? Is there any chance molly would be at least a little effective? He really wants to roll and doesn't mind wasting a dose if it ends up not working, but if it's definitely not gonna work and/or is significantly more dangerous than MDMA on its own would be, then obviously that's not a good idea. I'm starting to think 2CB might be the best option - anyone have experience with it (or other 2Cs) while on SSRIs? Alright, thus concludes the "Soli is too lazy to find the appropriate megathreads to ask his questions" portion of this post 8)

Oh, and I can't think of anyone this would apply to, but if anyone here is in the Chicago area... You should totally come to this show (and PM me, so we can try to meet up for pre- and/or post-gaming ; )!
 
I'm gonna see them both too, but on Halloween. :) Let me know how it is! I haven't seen either myself.

As I understand, rolling on SSRIs greatly increases the risk of serotonin syndrome. Psychedelics are just generally dulled, sometimes a lot, some people still trip.

I'm from the Chicago area, we should meet up sometime when I'm visiting. :) I'll be there for 2 weeks around the holidays.
 
^I don't think MDxx and SSRI's 'greatly' increase the risk of serotonin syndrome, though it is present (in fact, SSRI's and all serotonergic drugs suffer have that potential contra). SSRI's will generally stop one from rolling even slightly...

Hyper toxic drugs, SSRI's, I'd say that even mephedrone is safer :|

Yeah that rotten lady scene always freaked me out the most too.

I found the twins to be the most frightening, cliché I know... Also, the hotel décor is truly horrific :D

I read that Kubrick actually cut the ending after release- as in, Warner Brothers required projectionists to physically cut the last scenes- which may have implied that Jack did not actually ever exist.

I actually 'like' the composer Krzysztof Penderecki- or, at least, I admire his brave use of dissonance.

If you can listen to this, I admire you a lot:



Xork said:
I've got some anxiety today, strange. It's getting cold, and my house isn't too warm right now, I think it may be contributing to my discomfort. I'm gonna go buy some kerosene so I can turn on my heater, maybe that will help.

I think my long ibogaine afterglow is finally just a memory... it helped me to learn to deal with things in a healthy manner when I really needed that, and now it's time to do that again. I wonder if it's also because I haven't been spending the time outside that I had been all summer. Time to ruminate on the things that are causing me to feel off

Change of seasons and exposure to light (either increase or decrease) can certainly alter moods. I generally feel slightly depressed in winter; just low grade melancholy, wistfulness, nostalgia and anxiety. Summer, on the other hand, I usually feel hyper and self-destructive and filled with manic good cheer. Need to keep a lid on that...

Have you thought about an ibogaine booster Xor? Not that it should be needed but might help perspectivify things. But I would suggest that- if you are like me, you will find using (even minimally) addictive or potentially habit forming drugs to cause anxiety and negatively effect self-esteem. On the rare times I take opiates, I feel regretful and empty. I would suggest avoiding stuff like phenibut....<3

I dunno, I cannot stand being cold at any time whatsoever. It effects me greatly, I ache and shiver and curse the shedding of full body hair by our tree-dwelling cousins. Is it common to use kerosene heating in US? I'm getting hydronic heating installed at my place soon, which will cost several thousand but will pay itself off by being more environementally friendly then gas or electricity and cheaper to run. My brother is also going to help me install more solar panels too, so hopefully I can end up being off-grid to some degree.
 
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xork said:
I've got some anxiety today, strange. It's getting cold, and my house isn't too warm right now, I think it may be contributing to my discomfort. I'm gonna go buy some kerosene so I can turn on my heater, maybe that will help.

I've noticed this sort of thing too. Like, when I'm out walking at midnight, I am frequently made nervous by things in winter, whereas in summer nothing bothers me.

willow said:
Can you discuss your previous criminal case?

It was a serial robbery case. The defendant was only claiming innocence on like 2 of 6 charges, and one of the modifying things involving the brandishing of a firearm during a robbery. He was a homeless guy, and I guess the practice is the gangs give'em a gun and act as getaway driver, so he gets a source of income, the gang member gets to avoid cameras and witnesses that could implicate him. I hung the jury on one of the robberies, as in the end the other couple people who questioned it went with the group, but the camera image was so grainy and at a poor angle (compared to the others) that I had trouble accepting it. It was uncomfortably circumstantial for me, or maybe I was just too sympathetic towards the fellow, but he was being convicted on 4 counts of armed robbery anyway, one with some special gun charge (I forget, it might have involved cocking it or something), so it's not like it was a miscarriage of justice if I was being unreasonable.

Determining the guilt or innocence of a person when imprisonment is on the line was a morally weightier action than I thought it would be.

edit:by synchronicity, NHK news (which I've had on in the background) is having a special report about wrongful arrests due to reliance upon security camera footage leading to sloppy investigations.
 
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No, kerosene heating isn't common, I just have an odd house. :) I got 10 gallons but then I poured it all in the tank and forgot to reserve some in case the pump needed to be primed... and of course, it did. :|

Yeah I think I have been using too many drugs lately... MXE a couple of times a week probably for a month (all the people I hang out with and myself got in on a group buy), plus the phenibut, though it's been over a week since I had any of that and I felt good yesterday. I think the biggest culprit is the season change. And it's been a cold and dreary autumn so far. Shorter days... they bum me out. I'm the same way willow, I get a bit depressed (or suicidally depressed last year due to opiates and bad relationship) in the winter, and I get manic and euphoric (and that can lead to self-destruction) in the summer. In the Spring I feel the most balanced, although I have the most fun in the summer. In the Fall I feel nostalgic and a combination of content and sad, and nervous about winter. Honestly, as hard as winter can be for me, Spring makes it all worth it. The rebirth of the world and myself is a beautiful thing to experience, every time. <3

I'd be doing an ibogaine follow-up dose if I had ibogaine, I was going to do it at 4 months but I don't have any and it's expensive. It's been over 5 months now, 5 and a half actually (whoa). I suppose I could get some TA extract, that's more affordable. But still, less than 2 doses of the level I want to take it, maybe even 1 dose, from a gram. It's damn expensive.

Hopefully I'll have someone to snuggle with this winter... I hope she gets back in December and not later. Having someone to snuggle with makes winter much better.
 
^Snuggling>ibogaine. :)

Going to visit my beautiful little niece, she is 4 months old and so cute!! I just love her so much already <3 :) As soon as I held her, I thought to myself- YOU, I will know for my whole life, you are family, I will PROTECT you :D Very primate of me, I thought...

I should also mention that my bother had his first child 2 weeks ago also, a little boy named (please forgive my brother) James Magnet Pxxx (sorry, I'm blanking out the surname). MAGNET!! :D
 
Girlfriend's sister has come to visit for a week or so, so we're headed out into the city tomorrow night.....I'm actually super keen to roll in the nightclubs again :D been a couple of months since we've been out....time to make a clown of myself once more! bahahaha
 
congrats willow! on your family extensions!

i too felt quite attached to my nephew when he was born. instant love, brought by genetics ;) i can only imagine what parenting must be like.
how do you read Magnet? is it like the usual sticking to metal stuff? or with a french accent? ;) (a la Monet)

6 days of full on stress and im free to relax. cant wait.

hope all is well PD
 
Congrats on the little ones in your family willow. :) My first and only nephew (or niece) is my ex's sister's son, he's 2, almost 3... I haven't seen him in almost a year though. I love that boy so much, we had an instant connection, I taught him about how to walk and everything. It's the hardest part of not being with her anymore.

Last night I went over to my friend's place to jam, and I had asked him if he wanted to trip this weekend. When I got there he was like okay, want some 4-AcO-DMT? I didn't realize he meant yesterday to trip, he doesn't work today so it was best for him. So we took 20mg of MXE and then an hour later, 30mg of 4-AcO-DMT. We jammed for a while first and started trying to write a song. Then once the 4-AcO-DMT hit, we couldn't even talk anymore. At first it was almost too much, I haven't had 4-AcO-DMT since 2008 but it felt exactly the same as ever, like oral smoked DMT. In combo with MXE it had this quality that's difficult to describe but it was definitely powerful. After a while I went outside, and the full force of the Fall-into-Winter feelings hit me. I started feeling a bit depressed and went back inside, and my friend put on music. It was Kanye West's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy". I sat there in front of the speakers and closed my eyes and got into it. Really genius album... behind my eyes it seemed as if I was on a conveyor belt of colorless shapes that loomed towards me, and they told a complex, nonlinear emotional story.

I started thinking about Flynn (the girl I've been seeing who is in California for a couple of months). The subject matter of the album fit quite well with that line of thought but it was involuntary. I was calmly and peacefully thinking about her and as the album got more and more intense and into the subject matter, I began considering how I feel and want to proceed with her. Right at this PERFECT moment of conflict and yearning, in this precise moment that was utterly perfect, she actually called me. Now you have to understand that I have been wanting to hear her voice and talk to her since she left a couple of weeks ago, but she's been in the mountains in northern Cali and rarely has reception. She was going to call me yesterday but wasn't able to. Originally my plan for the evening had been to stay home and do house stuff and be ready to answer if she called, but the night unfolded differently.

As soon as she called, before I looked, I knew it HAD to be her, the timing was just too incredible for it to be anyone else. And sure enough it was her. This sent me on an hours-long, intense struggle within myself. It was one thing to be thinking of her peacefully inside my own mind, but now she had interacted directly with this experience. The music shifted to Kanye's ruminations on choosing drugs over a woman. I felt, in the moment, a bitter irony that I was too fucked up to talk to her in the one time she could call (I literally could not get words out for the peak 2 hours of this trip). I seemed to reach an understanding about that very subject. I chose drugs over my last relationship, and the fact that I was on them right then seemed to drive home to me that that's what I might do. She texted me then from someone else's number, saying her phone ran out right when she was calling me. Then she called me again from that number right as Kanye is telling his woman to run away from him as fast as she can. It's not that that's how I feel really but in my trip, I felt it was highly symbolic. I felt very guilty that I wasn't answering her. As time went on I imagined her sitting there hoping I would call back, wondering if I wasn't answering because I didn't want to talk, wondering if I was going to forget about her since she had to leave before things really developed fully between us. I pained me for her to feel this way - though in likelihood, upon sober reflection, she probably didn't think that, she probably just assumed I couldn't talk then, but this is such a new thing, and she left almost as long ago as the total time we had spent together. The entire rest of the album seemed incredibly, intricately tied to all the thoughts I was having. It was one of the most powerful album listening experiences I have ever had.

Eventually it ended, and I indicated to my friends that my mind was blown by making an exploding gesture out of my forehead. I found words at last and described to my friend who was tripping with me what happened, and he already knew somehow and it had tripped him out as well. He said right as the phone rang he knew it was her, that it had to be her. I had a beer and began to feel calm... I decided I'd call her back once I could talk on the phone, and in the meantime my other friends were cooking dinner and hanging out. I shifted slowly into a truly wonderful state of being, which reminded me very much of the plateau/tail end of mushrooms, with a jovial, communicative and euphoric state in which I spoke eloquently and with great humor. We went outside for a bit and I stood on this broken chair that I have an ongoing thing with... I use it for balance training, I try to stand on it and keep my balance and rotate a full 360 degrees without touching anything for support. As time has gone on it's gotten harder because the wheels have been falling off and now it has no wheels and about 50 different centers of balance as you rotate and it shifts on its broken base. I found that standing on the ground I could barely keep my balance simply standing on one foot, but on this chair I was effortlessly keeping my balance. I hadn't even managed to rotate one full time thus far with all the wheels broken, but I managed to go around 12 times in a row last night, and I just stopped eventually because my friend was super nervous I was going to fall (I never have). My balance on thsi chair was uncanny, by far the best it has ever been, even sober.

I began to explore the issue that's been on my mind recently... the fact that I like two different women right now. There's Erica, the one I met first. When I met her, it was like a lightning bolt, this really intense, immediate feeling, but after a week of hanging out and talking a lot she pulled back, due to being confused about what she wants in life. Since then she's been frustratingly unavailable but still periodically gets ahold of me to let me know she's sorry and she wants to hang out with me but she's been feeling super antisocial and isn't sure if she should get into anything (getting divorced and has a small child and also had a short, intense relationship already shortly after separating with her husband that didn't end well). But like, if I see her picture on Facebook I still get this intense pang of longing that's really powerful. She's slowly fading from my mind since I met the other girl, but she's still there and I am still curious about what could possibly happen. When we met I had this feeling that this could be the person for me. Plus she's one of the most beautiful women I've ever met, more beautiful than the current one. She's beautiful too but just less so. On the other hand, when I met the current girl, it was not an instant thing like that. It was a thing that developed smoothly, based on spending a lot of time together, physical intimacy, and conversation/sharing. I think it's more of a real thing, something built on actual stuff. I think I should forget about Erica, it seems like it wouldn't be a healthy thing for me at this point, it would probably just lead me to being disappointed and/or frustrated. I think I gained some clarity on this matter although it's not like I stopped liking two different people at once. It's a relatively confusing but ultimately kind of nice situation to be in, a situation I have never been in before.

The rest of the night, I gradually came down and kept feeling wonderful. Eventually I called her back, but she was out of range again. I left a message and also responded to her text. Hopefully she'll be able to call back today.

I haven't tripped like that in a long time, a full-on trip with all the ups and downs, synchronicity, and re-emergence. Wow is all I can say, that was my best 4-AcO-DMT trip I have ever had. Difficult for the peak, but amazing and beautiful and so relevant to my life. <3
 
wonderful experience xorkoth, thank you for sharing ;)
havent read a trip report in awhile, glad i had this opportunity.
 
Thanks. :) I might just flesh this out into a full trip report. This isn't one by my standards, I want to fill in more details. It's not often that a trip inspires me to write about it beyond the duration of the trip itself, these days, but this one was special.
 
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