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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Thread: N-Dimensional Funhouse of Possibilities

I was mainly overwhelmed near the end of my trip when I was trying to decide where I should put my headphones, I kept walking around all mindfucked and setting them down then picking them back up and generally just not accomplishing anything. Then my little brother was like, 'dude, just put your headphones anywhere mom and dad aren't gonna think something happened last night just because your headphones are out..' then I had to go to sleep with my little brother and his friend snoring and the clock ticking, those noises alone were enough to echo around in my head with the colors and make me wonder if I'd ever be truly sober again lol

luckily I fell asleep shortly after wondering that and woke up feeling possibly better than I ever had in my adolescent life until that point.
 
SONN said:
I see so many first timer threads on BL

in your guys' opinion, is it better to have an underwhelming psychedelic experience first to test the waters? or is it better to have your first trip be everything you asked for and more?

my first trip was on a whole 8th of mushrooms at the age of 14/15 so I tripped FACE and will always remember it as one of the most life changing trips of my life.

by the end it was a bit overwhelming but luckily I had my little brother to help me.

it seems like everyone on BL wants to take acid for their first time and they're all unsure how much to take, which sucks because blotters *typically* have a wider range in potential potency than mushrooms. My buddy who had an underwhelming trip his first two times decided he would take 4 hits as his third trip which resulted in him naked, basically in a psychotic state, masturbating his flaccid penis all throughout the party, repeating the same few phrases over and over again in a loop.

TL-DR is it better to have a satisfying first trip so you aren't left wanting to trip way harder afterwards?
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Well, I think LSD is MUCH more forgiving than mushrooms. The dose response curve isn't nearly as dramatic. 3 grams of mushrooms might be a nice medium strength trip, while 4g may send you to the other side of infinity and back. Honestly I think tryptamines in general often share that trait, except with the few odd balls like DiPT and aMT


Of course, that's not to say acid won't totally rape your mind either. Obviously it still needs to be treated with respect.. I think it can be quite a bit harder to really have a bad time on acid, but when you do... it's much, much worse. At least you can pull a lot of lessons out of an uncomfortable shroom trip, when acid turns bad it's aaaaalllllllll bad. You really have to *try* to fuck up with acid though IMO, or just be a complete idiot. With mushrooms, it would seem that it could happen to anyone at anytime.



Also, I'm not so sure LSD has a more varying dose. Some shrooms are so potent, a gram and a half will equal 3.5 of another strain. Some others you'd need to eat 5+ (dried) grams! It depends a lot on the stain.
 
LSD can be laid on blotter at any dose the blotter paper can hold which is a wide range.

Cubensis mushroom potency does vary but not per strain (an exception is Penis Envy which is a mutant strain, apparently bearing significant genetic differences), typically potency varies on cultivation conditions, whether it is a nice isolated monoculture and just genetic crapshoot. Strain are not even that reliable for appearances (again exceptions aside like leucistic or albino shrooms), it is mostly marketing ploys and histories. But perhaps some strains have some growing strategies adapted to their habitat, and it can be smart to adjust cultivation parameters to that effect.

But yeah I agree LSD is mush more forgiving than muchrooms! That is, until you get to seriously heavy doses of LSD take in one go, then there you may sure be in for it, just as much if not more. I don't think moderate doses of mushrooms are that interesting, or another way to put it is the effects get weird FAST i.e. at pretty low doses, so there is no easy low ground to speak of IMO.
There sure are a good number of tryptamine oddballs, they just aren't used as much I guess, unsurprisingly. :)

And we are not the only ones with ideas like this, there is a whole bunch of us in the LSD vs mushrooms subthread. But not everyone agrees, some people are more comfortable with mushrooms. I think it is a rational / logic vs irrational / intuition and a little bit of introvert vs. extravert that determines preferences like that. Or just brain chemistry, what the hell do I know.
 
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Do DOx psychedelics generally cause ego death? It just occurred to me that I research the hell out of psychedelics but I know next to nothing about this particular variety.... I know DOM generally is known to but is anything else?
 
No they do not generally. I do hear than DOB can be extraordinarily psychedelic. DOC is the one I have the most experience with and I have never had anything resembling ego death on it. I find it quite mentally sobering, in a good way, and earthy.
 
I got some extremely lucid CEVs on a near DOC overdose, but was still well aware of myself and my body due to the side effects of such a high dose.. was unfortunate, if I hadn't have been so stimulated I probably could have gone very deep, had never had visuals like that before.


I got into a meditation pose and tried to focus, and suddenly everything lit up into a neon video-game and I clearly saw "Level 1" as if I had just started a "game".... obviously I wanted to stick with it but my heart was beating extremely fast and I felt an intense need to do *anything* so I couldn't stick with it and it all faded as soon as I stood up :(
 
Xorkoth said:
No they do not generally. I do hear than DOB can be extraordinarily psychedelic. DOC is the one I have the most experience with and I have never had anything resembling ego death on it. I find it quite mentally sobering, in a good way, and earthy.
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That's interesting, I have heard a lot of good things about DOC. I think by biggest interest besides DOM would be DOI. I tried supposed DOB once (the blotter *was* quite bitter and my friend tried for 24+ hours on it) but it was a low dose and it didn't particularly wow me.... Fun though. That's good to know though, thanks. :)

Folley said:
I got some extremely lucid CEVs on a near DOC overdose, but was still well aware of myself and my body due to the side effects of such a high dose.. was unfortunate, if I hadn't have been so stimulated I probably could have gone very deep, had never had visuals like that before.


I got into a meditation pose and tried to focus, and suddenly everything lit up into a neon video-game and I clearly saw "Level 1" as if I had just started a "game".... obviously I wanted to stick with it but my heart was beating extremely fast and I felt an intense need to do *anything* so I couldn't stick with it and it all faded as soon as I stood up :(
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How much did you take? I know that feeling, but that sounds intense! It's a shame you couldn't take it further. That would've bothered me a lot though too, I hate having a racing heart even when I'm not tripping.... I am definitely interested in the kinds off visuals these amphetamines and stronger phenethylamines can provide. The only one I've really worked with was 2C-I and that's actually been pretty strong in me, especially when I mix it with weed I get some pretty strong sensory distortions edging into delirium from it.
 
^ I hope that wasn't pure, for your sake.. I snorted 5mg and holy fuck 8o one milligram more and I definitely would have been taking the xanax I keep around as an emergency precaution



I'll definitely snort it next time, the come up is reduced from like 2 hours to a good 45 minutes to an hour. It seems to potentiate the dose quite a bit though so I'll certainly be dosing lower next time.
 
Folley said:
^ I hope that wasn't pure, for your sake.. I snorted 5mg and holy fuck 8o one milligram more and I definitely would have been taking the xanax I keep around as an emergency precaution



I'll definitely snort it next time, the come up is reduced from like 2 hours to a good 45 minutes to an hour. It seems to potentiate the dose quite a bit though so I'll certainly be dosing lower next time.
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Nah bro its actually the purest the market has. i just like to epic dose everytime to see how far i can go into hyper space.
 
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lol 14mg of DOC, holy carp*

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Well I can believe 14mg of pure DOC, even snorted, would be doable by some people. It feels quite physically benign other than occasionally producing severe vasoconstriction when I take it higher. But it's just uncomfortable, not life-threatening. And sometimes I get no vasoconstriction.

I'm actually going to take some today, for the solstice. Spending the day outside hiking and then having some drinks and smokes and burgers and chilling into the night. Taking it quite soon actually...
 
Goddess Mode said:
That's interesting, I have heard a lot of good things about DOC. I think by biggest interest besides DOM would be DOI. I tried supposed DOB once (the blotter *was* quite bitter and my friend tried for 24+ hours on it) but it was a low dose and it didn't particularly wow me.... Fun though. That's good to know though, thanks. :)
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I'd recommend trying DOC before DOI, just because of the shorter duration (12-24 hrs for DOC vs. more like 30 for DOI). You wouldn't want to get a couple hours into a 30-hour trip and discover you don't really like DOxx after all :\

Too bad the sandwich thread got closed, because I'd like to report that I am enjoying an awesome roast beef and avocado sandwich at the moment. :D
(Actually I hope the guy who started that thread figures out what he needs, he sounded pretty distraught from the title but when I clicked on it all it said was "sandwiches")
 
I got a half of a Publix "original" Italian sub waiting for me in the fridge. I can't wait to be hungry.
 
I'm thinking of taking my first DOC trip for Forth of July weekend, plugging 3 or 4mg at like 6 a.m. I'll be the only one tripping, but there will be drinking, swimming, water skiing, fireworks -- the traditional white American lake house celebration stuff. I'm thinking 2g of phenibut might massage the expected tension out of the DOC trip with its GABA-B muscle relaxing ways, with MXE on stand-by for moral support. I'm looking for a high plus two low plus three trip. Sound about right?
 
Well 3mg oral had me frying my face off for almost an entire day. It was my first time with DOC too 8( But I seem to be more sensitive to it than other users.
 
Laika said:
How did you get to this conclusion?
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its been conformed with other pd regulars that the source is best on the market. Someone this very page could vouch for me....

im not dicksizing, i just enjoy a rocket ride hyperspace it was so cool speaking to my brother telepathically,and i normally wouldnt believe in such things. my brother and i were at the singularity; we had the same visuals and thoughts at the same time. the only draw back was the next day muscular tension.
 
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