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๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ Social ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ PD Social Thread 2022-2025 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

I bet even here over 80% of us here now, would admit to using artificial fragrances as a longterm way of life to "smell good"

And also, seriously who here if anybody can actually say they met their partner without either smothered in fake odor blocking the pheromone's action?
dunno about this

personally have only used aftershave maybe twice ever...as a teenager that was, and never use smelly stuff, except for soap etc

also have had plenty girlfriends and 3 longterm partners - exactly none of who were smothered in fake odor (ok, maybe one single one night stand, but you get the picture)
 
Perfumes are like makeup and clothes; by the end of the night they end up on the floor and bed sheets.

Everyday is like Halloween. We all have our costumes we wear to trick or treat other people in our lives.
 
dunno about this

personally have only used aftershave maybe twice ever...as a teenager that was, and never use smelly stuff, except for soap etc

also have had plenty girlfriends and 3 longterm partners - exactly none of who were smothered in fake odor (ok, maybe one single one night stand, but you get the picture)
I respect that man and u know doesn't surprise me either.

Was a shoot in Park from gut plus lifelong observation.

Still you'd maybe be one of the 20%ers lol.

I really really believe in that too. Science itself did declare that already, our pheremones and instinctual attraction, compatible partnership.


It makes too much sense to me and I've always felt almost fully overlooked.


Used a little aftershave as teen, never since though.

Hell I even abandoned TV 1997 to 2005 hardly noticed it. No mobile tablet screen, v occasional Uni PC. Different lives.


Plus yeah sure thanks for bringing me back to that.

Because no way I'm saying, you cannot get with your idealllest match fragrances involved.I

By law of odds at least, or higher something or right situation....


But still if my awesome girl lol, was already lured onto another's powerful Christian Dior good looks and charm, it happens, engaged.


So yes the right people still meet. But I still swear so much mismatch and that can really filter down too.
 
@Xorkoth I can only say that it shouldn't be that hard. But what do I know really, we're just about 3 years together but it's been so easy and amazing.

Yeah, 3 years in was still real easy. I mean she was starting to get some pain issues then, but I didn't feel really any stress and the pain was not major enough that it was affecting our relationship except that I felt bad for her, I was still over the moon about the relationship. Around 5-6 years in was where it started to get hard, well the sexual frustration started earlier than that but we still did it and more importantly, we were still physically and emotionally intimate. It was covid, or rather, her reaction to covid, that really kick-started it, because it became a situation where there was extreme anxiety flowing through the house any time I wanted to leave do anything with anybody. And that caused resentment towards her and emotional distancing, and it made things weird. Then the birth control related hormonal destabilization happened. I used to think our relatioship would be perfect forever, but 9 years is a long time. I doubt anybody gets to experience a relationship that is without difficulty, although I certainly hope you do. <3

You guys live together yet? That takes it to a whole other level. She didn't move in until we'd been together for 4 years. I got to know a whole other side to her that I had only gotten glimpses of before then

@Xorkoth,
I'm not sure how I feel about open relationships right now. Had a six-year relationship in my 20's of which the last three were spent as an open relationship. We weren't banging everyone we met like some people think non-monogamous people behave, I think neither of us had a particularly strong sex drive, which I guess ironically is kinda why we decided to have that kind of relationship in the first place. I think we felt a little bit detached from sex which made it easier to experiment with our sex life I guess. Like fucking someone else wasn't such a big deal because sex wasn't such a big deal, our relationship had other kind of strengths. Spiritual complicity, emotional support and intelectual affinity felt more important than staying loyal to our bodies. So if we occasionally happened to spend the night with someone else, it was ok. But we weren't fooling around all the time, or actively seeking hooking out with other people, which I guess is what made it sustainable. For a while at least.

It worked fine until I eventually met someone else that I fell in love with. For most of our non-monogamous relationship, our little adventures here and there consisted exclusively of one-night stands, except for a period I spent alone in the US doing research in a lab we were collaborating with at the time. I had a brief romance with a girl I met over there, but because I was living apart from my ex, and the fact that I knew I was eventually leaving the US I guess made all three of us take the situation with some kind of lightheartedness and un-seriousness. I did like that girl a lot though, we met at a music venue and immediately clicked and had a lot of fun together. We also had amazing sex chemistry, something I hadn't felt since I first started dating my ex. Which kinda introduced some uncomfortable doubts at the back of my mind, which latter on turned to some realizations about things that weren't really working out in our relationship, but I kind of buried that under the rug for a while. I eventually went back home to Chile, and I think it was around eight months after I had returned, I met a girl that I couldn't help but fall in love with. It wasn't like the previous one-night experiences, I couldn't get enough of this new girl I had met, so I kinda started dating her while living with my ex. Admittedly it was a weird situation, but we had countless conversations about it as it was happening, and the three of us were ok with it for a while. But then my ex kinda changed feelings about it, and decided she had enough and wanted to change back to a monogamous relationship. The cat was already out the bag though. I realized I had fallen in love with this girl, and it wasn't so easy for me to give up that situation. It was a harsh time for sure, full of doubt, fear, anxiety and frustration. I moved out of the house we were living in, eventually split with my ex.

In retrospect, I can tell what tore us apart was not only the non-monogamy thing. We had a really beautiful relationship in many regards, but the experiences I was having made me realize I wasn't happy with a lot of stuff in our relationship. She had a severe depression, and I was always the one keeping things up for both of us. Then, during the last year of our relationship I was having a really rough time for unrelated reasons, and when I was feeling down, she couldn't take care of herself and much less give me the support I was needing, so we both were dragged down by depression in a never-ending vicious circle. Also, I guess if I'm completely honest, I guess our decision to "open" our relationship was in part motivated by latent and unspoken sexual frustration. Except for the first year of our relationship (But that's normal ... You are getting to know someone, you are all excited and horny, you have a lot more sex than latter on), her sex drive was really low because of her depression, which eventually ended affecting my own libido, but we tried to play it cool for the reasons above. I even thought I was asexual for a while, then we opened our relationship and I found out I was absolutely not. So yeah, in retrospective we started slowly drifting away from each other for reasons other than living non-monogamously, and we didn't pay enough attention to that until it was maybe too late, and probably falling in love with another person while in a relationship can happen even if you are exclusive with your partner, but I guess experimenting around with other people definitely made me more open to meeting other people and to the idea of having feelings for someone else, and probably I wouldn't have gotten so close to someone to the point of falling in love if I was monogamous at the time. Was it for the better, in the end? In my case, yes it did, I guess we would have broken up eventually for the other, unattended reasons already mentioned, at the end of our relationship we felt more like best friends that lived together rather than lovers, and me dating another person just exacerbated that. But of course having this little adventures here and there catalyzed the whole process.


So, non-monogamy, how do I feel about it? I don't know. All I can say, it's confusing, and I think I haven't heard of anyone who has had success in the long term with it. Most people I know that are polyamorous or non-monogamous also tend to enjoy time alone a lot ? I haven't meet someone having a long-term partner and living non monogamously while also living with them.


As for the girl I started dating while with my ex ... Well, everything was perfect with her since the very first moment. And I mean everything. We did the non-monogamy thing for a couple of years, mostly out of habit I guess, as we were both in that mindset when we met. But after a while I guess both of us kinda lost interest in meeting other people. Eventually we explicitly decided to commit only to each other. And since nine months, we are married now, lol. So peak monogamy I guess? Oh, and I completely disagree with @Mr. Krinkle on his last post, sex has been amazing for the whole (almost) seven years we've been together. I mean of course we are not doing it everytime we meet pulling all nighters regularly like on our first year together. Of course eventually you find other ways of connecting with your partner and getting enjoyement out of it and sharing love and care. But we still have sex regularly and enjoy it as much as the good old days, maybe more in some ways.


Oops, ended up writing my own novel. I'm sorry, didn't intend for this to be so long. But this is what I can say on the subject. I really hope you can find what works best for you, but if you feel your lack of sexual life and/or experience is frustrating you, I think it's only fair to yourself to do something about it. I don't think it is shallow or "testosterone driven" at all to wish for fulfillment in that aspect of your life, I guess wishing that is part of the human experience. I'm sure you will find the right answer eventually.



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I truly appreciate your words, man. <3 Because I very often think of when you told me about how you split with your ex and found someone else. There are a lot of similarities there... a lot.

For the record (as I said below, I'm skipping around writing this compound reply), we talked about it and she was just saying it because she wants me to be happy and feels bad that she isn't giving it to me, or at least that's what she says, I think a part of her is also a little bit midlife crisis-y about the idea of never hooking up with anyone else, which is also how I feel a bit. But she said that right now, she wouldn't even want to try to find anyone else to see, she's just trying to muster up enough to have sex with me once in a while. :\ But she is trying, and after her period (which should be tomorrow), she's going to be starting on a regimen of supplements and stuff to try to fix her hormones. Some solid research went into it (from me and also from her). She also said she'd see an endocrinologist but it will be a while before she can get an appointment. At the moment she said she finds it hard to care or miss it, but also she knows that the her from before birth control would slap the today her upside the head for saying that, so she knows there is another way she could feel and would be glad she pursued. She also finds it terribly ironic that she went on birth control because she was in terrible pain and was desperate to heal it so we could resume being intimate, and now she has totally fixed the pain, but doesn't care about the intimacy. She said she just can't seem to make herself want it, even though when we do it, she gets into it and enjoys it... in fact we had sex yesterday and she wanted to go again but you know, refractory period and all that... so I finished the job with other parts of me. I have to admit I have a hard time understanding how that dichotomy could exist... like, intellectually, you can't remember that you actually really like it whenever it happens, and that could make you want to spend 5 minutes of feeling weird/bored to get entry to that place? But I guess getting turned on is not easy for her right now and I have to respect that, but I also respect that she's trying to move in a better direction and she's not just telling me that I'm being a pig, or something like that.

My partner presented the situation in a similar manner as yours. I was never directly told but it was a strong suggestion for me to have a โ€œside.โ€ This was during a time when he was dealing with his own sexual arc and interests. I dealt with an extreme amount of jealousy and pain before deciding to continue the relationship. I experimented as well and it made my lover jealous at times. Both of us had to figure it out on our own but in the end we have simply made compromises. Weโ€™ve decided that these compromises are worth it for our relationship but every relationship is different.

To answer your question, it sounds like she isnโ€™t bored. It sounds like she cares for you and you care for her. It sounds like she realizes you have sexual needs that she would rather talk about rather than have you cheat on her. It sounds like your limits havenโ€™t been tested yet though. The hard part is yet to come unfortunately. Both of you are most likely figuring out where exactly your โ€œdonโ€™t crossโ€ lines are right now. It takes a while, sometimes never.

I think the two of you have a lot of potential and itโ€™s worth exploring avenues which allow your relationship to continue. Try new things. If things get overwhelming, give yourself time to think by yourself and then go back to your relationship when you feel confident about where your triggers lay.

Thank you, that was a really kind and thoughtful post. <3 I appreciate it, man

Tough but exciting ground to tread. Ime, it doesn't enhance your primary relationship at all. Let's face it, it's the man who is going to be seeking the most external partners and after a point (again ime) this just fucks with a woman's mind. I hate to say it and who the fuck knows, but your girl doesn't exactly sound like she'd really enjoy or be comfortable in an open relationship. It's just grounds for fear, self-doubt, and mistrust unless handled extremely carefully and the effort of that vs reward is one of diminishing returns. Casual sex is one of the loneliest activities. I cannot imagine how it would feel at age 40 with a loving woman at home. We 'closed' our relationship about 5 years ago after coming close to the brink of failure. Some people can handle this, but I have no idea how. Our relationship is way better. It's not as thrilling as when we were young and we have less sex, but it's a deeper connection and a stable, reliable, comforting thing to come home to after a day in the whirring storm.

Honestly, when I started testosterone, I wanted to fuck everything (as well as dominate conversation and yell at people in traffic). I'm on 150mg a week but I titrated up much slower than you. It's an amazing substance for quality of life but reading about your all night jealous brooding- that is just pure testosterone! ๐Ÿ˜ƒThe problem with this stuff is that it doesn't feel like a drug- it feels completely normal. It's totally undermined whatever paltry belief I had left in free will. We are deterministic engines being semi predictably buffeted by biological forces well beyond our control. We do seem to be able to hit the brakes somewhat though- in this case, it may be titrating up more slowly. But mainly we just have to enjoy the ride.

I'm so glad you're feeling good though Xor โค๏ธ you deserve that.

Yeah she told me she was just trying to make me happy when she said that, when I asked her about it the next day after I made the post you were replying to. She doesn't like the thought of me having sex with someone else, but she doesn't want me to be unhappy, either. She wants to not feel jealousy about that, which is also how I feel... I would love it if I was able to view it as just sex and not be jealous or insecure, because it would be exciting to be able to be open to random encounters, and it's something I have only briefly had (and the first one ended up being her, of course). But it would be really difficult for me on the other side, and it was comforting to me to learn that it would also be difficult for her.

Anyway, yeah I decided to lower my dose a bit, I've been being a bit... extra :Sherlock:

that's all im really saying....


but hey - you guys do whatever you want - im just throwing the other thought of mind out there - whether you wanna believe in something else is entirely up to you

i speak because ive been around - and ive had quite a few long relationships and i can tell you all about them - and i don't miss them either - im happier living with just my kid now - and if and when she decides to leave, i plan on being just as happy

i just think co-dependence is a problem most ppl will have to solve some time in life and it's one of life's lessons


but what the hell do i know

:)

Nah I appreciate your opinion. Maybe you're right, even. It's just really confusing because I love her a lot, and I love the way we get along together, our banter, companionship, the lack of any sort of cruelty, the mutual things we enjoy and appreciate (though also some incompatability there TBH)... I love how much she cares about me, and I can't think of anyone else I'd call before her if I truly needed something from someone. And she's a great roommate, too. I can't imagine her not being in my life, and not because I'm scared of being alone (at all, I would never be alone, I have great friends), but just because I'd miss her. And she'd actually be alone, too

For years it stagnated because I never brought up any of my concerns and issues, or at least, not really. Right now things are moving somewhere and it would be a bad time to bail, without seeing where it goes. She's finally trying to improve herself, which is what I've always wanted from her. If she could get mentally and hormonally healthy, I'd feel like I was extremely lucky.

I can't say I don't also think about well, what if she fails to get better or stops trying? What if this is just a short term attempt to please me and her mom and sister, and she doesn't keep it up? What if another 5, 10 years goes by and I regret not dumping her now (or 5 years ago)? And a more difficult one, what if, like Img9999, we broke up and I met someone wildly perfect for me? But you can think about what ifs all day long. What if I didn't? For now I'm sticking it out and seeing how this plays out. If she had refused to attempt any changes, I probably wouldn't still be with her today, because life is too short. But she's doing what I told her I needed from her, I can't really ask any more than that.
 
Just bought BTC today and i should have around 250usd worth in my wallet with what i already had there. Well i just went and checked it and now i have 492 dollars, how is this even possible. Did the price of BTC just jump up massively all of a sudden i cant wrap my head around this. My wallet has to be acting glitchy or something. But i mean if not it looks like im gonna be buying more drugs this week then i planned!!!
 
Just bought BTC today and i should have around 250usd worth in my wallet with what i already had there. Well i just went and checked it and now i have 492 dollars, how is this even possible. Did the price of BTC just jump up massively all of a sudden i cant wrap my head around this. My wallet has to be acting glitchy or something. But i mean if not it looks like im gonna be buying more drugs this week then i planned!!!
BTC went up by $1.63 and the market trending down since July so it's pretty much not due to a general upswing.

Maybe the BTC gods sent you a gift :cool:
 
Maybe the BTC gods sent you a gift :cool:

It would see this way, possibly just gonna get fifty gel tabs from that other dude, cuz id be living really good the rest of the year with that in my stash to play around with. And i really wanna compare a new batch of Acid to what i already have right now. Im assuming that those geltabs are gonna have a really long shelflife also.

200ug each is a monster dose for one of them also like dont think id ever eat more than two and honestly me and my girl will probably just use one most of the time, well i know she wont take more than that. After i gave her the two blotters last time and it made her trip harder than she ever had in her life, i dont think she will be double dosing.
 
Was a glitch the wallet went back to normal ๐Ÿ˜”

Also decided to go ahead and make an order for a couple grams of O-PCE. Cuz it will help me stop the FXE/KET when im off probabtion. Its really potent so i can just eat 20mg capsule and be good and not have to fuck up my nose snorting stuff or my butthole boofing all the time.

And it happens to be one of the best dissos evah!!!
 
It would see this way, possibly just gonna get fifty gel tabs from that other dude, cuz id be living really good the rest of the year with that in my stash to play around with. And i really wanna compare a new batch of Acid to what i already have right now. Im assuming that those geltabs are gonna have a really long shelflife also.

200ug each is a monster dose for one of them also like dont think id ever eat more than two and honestly me and my girl will probably just use one most of the time, well i know she wont take more than that. After i gave her the two blotters last time and it made her trip harder than she ever had in her life, i dont think she will be double dosing.
400 mics, is a real strong trip IME even 300.

60's consensus ruled even Chemist 279 pods overwhelmed and I bet 40% Microdot users incl most ladies stuck to half, about 125-150 average.


200 is really nice though it's still a more regular pastime without the acid stealing it always fully there though.
 
45mg DMT and 300mg of moclobemide last night was quite lovely, although somewhat less intense than I'd hoped for. I ate .75g of mushrooms about 3.5hrs in but didn't get great effects from them. Smoked some DMT/MET blend at +5hrs and flew to Jupiter. Next time I'll jump.up to 55mg DMT.

I still got nauseated and had a terrible bout of the runs from about +1hrs for about 45 minutes but unlike botanical ayahuasca, this didn't persist after a certain point.

Great afterglow today. Deep satisfaction coupled with a few small subligual doses of DMXE ๐Ÿ˜Žโค๏ธ
 
All of my orders are in and im officially broke us fuck now until my next payday, but i have some really good stuff to look forward to so its deff worth it. Here is what i got.

1 gram of 4-HO-MET
1 gram of 3-HO-PCP
2 grams of O-PCE

Im set right now on the disso front, still have a bunch of FXE, Memantine and some 3-FL-PCP. Things are looking mighty fine for the future, just have to get those gel tabs soon and i will be content.
 
Ended up getting stupidly dissociated yesterday. DMXE is very interesting, went for this long walk in the nearby forest and totally felt like a sort of disembodied spirit piloting a massive mechanical thing. Had that Alice in Wonderland objects-looking-huge and distant or tiny and close interchangeably. Such a weird feeling. ๐Ÿคช Made some great music or at least it felt great making it ๐Ÿ‘
 
Nice! Yeah, DMXE is a good one, O find it closest to MXE, and it's probably my second favorite disso. Actually I don't know, I really love 3-MeO-PCE, also. And 3-HO-PCP.
 
Nice! Yeah, DMXE is a good one, O find it closest to MXE, and it's probably my second favorite disso. Actually I don't know, I really love 3-MeO-PCE, also. And 3-HO-PCP.
What's your take on FXE? Only ones I have really done are it and K. FXE kinda reminded me of low platteue DMX(several hundred mgs), which is the highest I've gone because I don't particularly like the weird, unnatural chemical body load. I don't know how else to explain it. FXE was much more disorienting, pushy and psychedelic but I did 300mg within a couple of hrs. The weird head, body feeling was still there. If I hole does it lose that aspect because it has enjoyable moments but just felt..... I don't know. I'll have to revisit because I need an in between the week substance(sadly).
 
Today is day 1 cold turkey off of opioids for me. I have time off of work. I'm making edibles, got 3-hopcp and a couple doses of benzos. Hoping I can finally jump off after 10+ years of opioids. Just going to do the best I can. Have a Dr. appointment the day after tomorrow and I'm hoping I can get them to prescribe me clonidine and gabapentin. I also think I have sleep apnea so hopefully I can get that figured out
 
Is 3-HO-PCP amazing @SuperPsych?

Would you say its better than 3-MeO-PCP, that is one of my favorite drugs ever. Im getting some this week but i wont be able to try ot until around Halloween, which will be dope. Really loved 3-HO-PCE alot and im assuming it will share some similarities to that.

Do you sniff it or take it orally, i think that im gonna start with just doing small bumps intranasal like maybe 10mgs and then give it a few hrs and do more, work my way up. Need to be careful and go gradually, just taking capsules with large oral doses is not happening again.

The last time i had a bunch of 3-MeO-PCE i made these 30mg capsules and it turned into a real shit show when id redose the second one of the day. But when i had been using 3-MeO-PCP heavily and pretty much only intranasal as i built tolerance i didnt have an issue.

Honestly the fact my Disso tolerance nowadays is so massive i think its gonna allow me a bit of protection honestly. But im still gonna be super cautious regardless. Ive always heard 3-HO-PCP is one of the best dissos ever, period. If i love it im probably gonna buy multiple grams to tuck away in my box.
 
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