🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2025 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

[AutoTripper]

i was gonna say that actually - that 1.7 of PE's was definitely the equivalent of 3.5 of any other cubenesis that ive had - they were so potent


i took 2 weeks off and then tripped last weekend - it was a really good trip - hit and a half - but it was toward the end of that cold that i had and i probably shouldve waited another week, because i barely slept and then i felt like shit for 2 days trying to catch up - but once i caught up on the sleep, i felt great again - so by Wednesday i had my hop back in my step after tripping saturday into sunday - and then last night was 2cb

man do i love that 2cb - this time i did 18mg and it was a little more similar to mdma but still much different - the last couple times i did 25 mg and it was way more heady

the comedown off it is just great too - and then i sleep like baby after it - love that part too.....it's such a good drug - im so impressed by it

Interesting and indicating therefore.

I recently watched a v good man, younger than me a little known about 7 years other cannabis/vaporizer based forums plus he's streamed on YT and Twitch just for fun & community's sake, weigh and eat 2 gr PE.

First macro dose in years, hasn't actually ever taken LSD.

Not many people would sit in a chair throughout 250 mics engaging regularly enough no real tell-tale signs, seem v normal like I always have on acid unlike nobody I've ever met.

I know him enough, his nature, mannerisms, drug tolerances (though one of those super high T cannabis folk, 3.5 to 5 gr top shelf vaped daily as a normal

He reported his experience as it transisted.

I'm a good people observer too, and in my judgement it looked & sounded more like a 100 mic acid dose, maybe 115 at most.

I was actually surprised. I pre advised him, without having ever had PE myself but plenty others incl hailed in past- Hawaiwans

Really getting to know every dosage & experience level, I mean all the Mexicans say I ever took, 4 grams would be more intense for at least 3 hours than any stage of a 250 mic acid trip.


So I told him 2 grams max PE therefore.


My only two feasible conclusions- we already know ofc that 1 gram of cubensis doesn't = 1 gram of cubensis like 250 ug pure L does = 250 ug pure L.

So I bet potency can be up to double batch depending (shrooms)


Otherwise. Cannabis! I've heard enough people say that while weed really escalates you on LSD, they find it mutes the shrooms a lot.

So that could be his case, or suggestion one.

And your own not using weed aside atm permitted no inhibition.

Because up to 2005, homegrown and Amsterdam ones 1998, 3.5 gr dried Mex or Columbos was enuff lol.

I ate 7 gr 1998 Amsterdam and had a bad trip in most public place THERE- infamous Bulldog coffeeshop!

3 of us, one uncut for any psychedelic type, other friend real weakling still there prone to "the fear" lol.


So I ate 7 dried legal likely top potency Mexicans, friend ate 3.5

Other saved his 3.5 for hotel room later (thankfully lol cos he did fully lose all ball bearings, like 4 Yr old unable to comprehend a thing total cognitive disablement)


But he guided us to most centre staged table in Bulldog boiling summer midday, round table high wooden chairs, MOST visible spot entire shop eV direction also bang in front of the service counter (ironically was my saving grace)


It was sweltering humidity though. Even straight friend was v uneasy as result.

Plus we'd eaten croissants, and food with shrooms or after IME means bad tummy.

I always tripped alone cos I can generally handle my shit.

This was rough & confronting though. Last I knew, looked to my 3.5 dosed friend, was holding tummy glaring at me in despair for help.

So it overwhelmed me.

Next thing I know..... blackness! Turning red. From dead centre vision returning, I was being v v professionally tbf wheelchair carried by 3 big Dutch blokes down a spiral staircase.

Ofc I thought I was being kidnapped lol. But they calmly assured me "it's alright!"

What happened. I blacked out. Chair tipped backwards hard to wooden floor.

A little white dog in there, saw this and darted underneath where my head landed, cushioning it! Remarkable really.

Apparently I then had some sort of unconscious fit, but the Dutch pros knew exactly what to do.

They has us out front in busy high street with stools, wheeled us out a big glass sugar water right away.

I felt twisted bro lol. So many people around, million murmurs.

I only caught one clear line... "shit happens" lol! I swear. From a passer by.


I looked at v friendly Dutch dude, I said.... (this is hilarious on reflection btw lol) "have you got a cupboard we can hide in for a little while?" Lol.


Because hotel was miles away and Amsterdam is potential death trap re trams, bikes too.


They were like "no you'll be fine. Later. Tomorrow. Just go round corner lie down in street for a while you'll be fine."


Our straight stoned friend guided us through Tram tracks back to hotel, and tbf all while awake, I still held my shit together really good.

Harsh experience though still. Not nice facing the reality too.


Okay ofc later on.

7 grams high potency any Cubensis beats 500 mics acid intensity, not experience longevity & impact wise plus duration ofc too though.


Did that put me off tripping at all? Well evidently no lol.

 

[AutoTripper]

I've maybe 50 to 100 other similarly bizarre rare tales too involving psychedelics & Exstacy.

Trip report book would be called for though.

 

[Old&intheway76]

I don't know if have that many balls DOC is just so perfect, I'm probably gonna go with that.



Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. Maybe I'll do a little reading on it to refresh my impression. But... I dunno. Again, DOC is just so perfect. I definitely want to try DOB and TMA-2, very much so, though.

I am an old psychedelic warrior from simpler times so forgive my ignorance but what are these compounds you speak of? DOC, DOB, TMA-2, AMT ect. I know what DMT is but not the rest. Please share

 

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[AutoTripper]

I am an old psychedelic warrior from simpler times so forgive my ignorance but what are these compounds you speak of? DOC, DOB, TMA-2, AMT ect. I know what DMT is but not the rest. Please share

I'd class them as RC similars to say 4-aco-dmt 4-ho-mipt


2CB. The whole 2C series incl 2Ci

Non LSD hallucinogens with varying characteristics, properties and duration.

 

[Xorkoth]

I am an old psychedelic warrior from simpler times so forgive my ignorance but what are these compounds you speak of? DOC, DOB, TMA-2, AMT ect. I know what DMT is but not the rest. Please share

AMT is actually very old school, it was making the rounds back in the Haight Ashbury days. It was also briefly marketed as an antidepressant in very low doses. As for the rest, well there is a whole world of molecules that are slight (or major) variations of the classics, out there. Read about Alexander Shulgin and his books PIHKAL and TIHKAL (Phenethylamines/Tryptamines I Have Known And Loved). It's incredibly fascinating stuff. And there are quite a number of these molecules that are every bit as good as the classics, but different (though not fundamentally different, more like different views into the same thing).

 

[AutoTripper]

MDA too, was I believe for a time legal back in 60's maybe into 70's not sure.

Surely folks like Barrett used it. It would extra account there too. Because if he knowingly o4 unknowingly like being spiked which it was v well known he was regularly and unquantifiably ofc with acid by lowlife hippy shits, with MDA too, maybe days and days in a row unable himself to decipher it amidst the haze of hallucinogenesis from acid uppers downers mandrax etc

It would maybe cause some serotonin syndrome events, and lead to the type of impairments witnessed.

I mean I abused the MDxx's, all 3 really as it was never just MDMA, and for periods it resulted in obvious catastrophic effects on personality, psyche, mood, speech and particularly communication.

Neurosis onset in 2003 after 900 I'll say again exstacy pills in 9 months but was always a pot luck amalgam, some pure MDMA, others pure MDA others pure
EVE, rest a ratio of sorts.


My ability to uphold myself and communicate and speak clearly fluently was most impacted.


But I'd say even relatively heavier LSD use more recent years resulted in none of this bizarrely the complete opposite.

Bromazolam too was available just never marketed in 70's yet only now it sweeps the Earth.

 

[porkstock]

AL-LAD is indeed amazing. I'll be sad when I'm all out of it. I don't think I'll ever run out of 2C-E, but I've made a good dent on the AL-LAD. Compared to LSD it's been pretty consistently more visually dazzling, silly, discombobulating (in a good way), and not as self-important. A lot more lighthearted than LSD, and more yin where LSD is yang.

I haven't read much about AL-LAD, but that is probably the most interesting review I've seen! Sounds splendid.
I was previously more drawn to ETH-LAD, often described as LSD's more "weird" cousin.
But in particular, the less self-important part intrigues me, as LSD is always a bit manic, or god-complex-inducing for me

 

[perpetualdawn]

@porkstock I kind of like that aspect of LSD from time to time, but it can be slightly messianic and delusional. Sometimes I trip out on how LSD is like a beneficent cult-entity that shows you how great it is when you trip on it, and makes you become a bit of an evangelist for LSD, and improve yourself, dedicate your life to a bit trippier things and creating the world into a more LSD-oriented place. I truly believe LSD is a force for good (overall) in this world, and you can sense a kind of viral aspect to its cause. I don't know how much of that is inherent to the way the molecule affects us, and how much of that is just cultural echoes from the era when LSD exploded onto the world in the old days. It's like this great prophet-king that really is out there to make things better, just don't forget who is #1. There's an ego-complex in there for sure.

I feel a bit stuck in my psychedelic collection. I've really seen how 4-AcO-DMT and 4-HO-MET are outstanding gems in the cornucopia of psychedelic RCs, but my supply of them is very very low. The temptation is to acquire some since they are still available and you never know when the doors will be shut forever. However when I look at my collection overall even without these two, it's already a multi-lifetime supply that I'll honestly never get through. It's tricky to know where to stop.

 

[cosmic charlie]

This morning i got the brilliant idea to head into the hood and go buy some fentanyl dope. Well i did the first bag anf was okay but after the second one it was lights out and i overdosed. Had to get rushed to the emergency room and hit with Narcan a bunch of times, turned blue.

Came really close to dying today. Anyone out the fighting and an opiate addiction please dont give in, ive been fucking up real bad this past week. My girlfriend is such a wreck right now, i feel horrible.

 

[somnilicious]

This morning i got the brilliant idea to head into the hood and go buy some fentanyl dope. Well i did the first bag anf was okay but after the second one it was lights out and i overdosed. Had to get rushed to the emergency room and hit with Narcan a bunch of times, turned blue.

Came really close to dying today. Anyone out the fighting and an opiate addiction please dont give in, ive been fucking up real bad this past week. My girlfriend is such a wreck right now, i feel horrible.

Damn Cosmo.... Sorry you and your girl had to go through that. The stuff they're selling on the streets now a days is garbage. All that fent and tranq dope is enough to keep me clean. Thank God they fucked up heroin or I might still be using. Gotta put the lid on certain drugs my man. There's just some drugs I can't touch no matter what.

Glad you're still here. Stop scaring your girl brother. You got a good thing. Don't fuck it up. Love your posts and energy. I don't know you personally but I'd sure as hell be devastated if you wound up in the shrine. You're one of the good ones and you got alot of life still to live. Be smart and stay safe. You know what you gotta do. Im looking forward to seeing more posts from you. Don't go dying on us. keep checking in so we know you're ok. Stay swirly, not opiated.

 

[Chris Timothy]

Hmmmm, does not make sense. Growing a little concerned @Chris Timothy . I know a lot of us give Charlie stern warnings to take care. Well here is one from me for you to take care of yourself and in check. Don't make me come over there!! With enough time and money I would. (we'd end up doing drugs together though... lol)

Yes, provided you don't kill me, we probably would, lol.

Why the concern though? I mean from you in particular? I've mentioned in DM why serotonergic downers in particular are of interest.

I guess there was a lot in that exchange we'd like to forget about. What I basically mean @ageingpartyfiend is that I can map key phases of my personal development onto use of chemicals with both serotonergic and introspective properties. It's already common knowledge that psilocybin targets the emotions more than LSD, and is therefore preferred when mood is the issue and a microdose regime has to chosen. There's a downer aspect there somehow, whereas acid is quite the upper. I think that principle can be generalized, partially explaining why the MXE analogues hit bull's eye in the psyche. They're heavily serotonergic, activating gut intelligence, while the dissociation has a downer component in its paradoxical mix of effects, allowing for focus to easily shift inwards, rather than catalyzing energy outwards like with the PCP analogues I've tried. The principle even applies to DPH.. though then we're not really talking ethical substance use anymore.

So basically it's about the combination of activating the more ancient, bodily systems of intelligence, and putting the brain in a state of being receptive to it.

That's what I mean @Mr. Krinkle. Not that LSD is horrible for mood by any means. It's just that the stimulant edge feels like walls closing in, in the operation room of psychological self-surgery.. in case that's the goal. Not that it therefore can't be worked with @AutoTripper.

@porkstock I kind of like that aspect of LSD from time to time, but it can be slightly messianic and delusional. Sometimes I trip out on how LSD is like a beneficent cult-entity that shows you how great it is when you trip on it, and makes you become a bit of an evangelist for LSD, and improve yourself, dedicate your life to a bit trippier things and creating the world into a more LSD-oriented place. I truly believe LSD is a force for good (overall) in this world, and you can sense a kind of viral aspect to its cause. I don't know how much of that is inherent to the way the molecule affects us, and how much of that is just cultural echoes from the era when LSD exploded onto the world in the old days. It's like this great prophet-king that really is out there to make things better, just don't forget who is #1. There's an ego-complex in there for sure.

I see that effect too but as I've said before it's a sign of poor integration if purely personal credit is taken for the organic wisdom of the ecological harmonizer species.

This morning i got the brilliant idea to head into the hood and go buy some fentanyl dope. Well i did the first bag anf was okay but after the second one it was lights out and i overdosed. Had to get rushed to the emergency room and hit with Narcan a bunch of times, turned blue.

Came really close to dying today. Anyone out the fighting and an opiate addiction please dont give in, ive been fucking up real bad this past week. My girlfriend is such a wreck right now, i feel horrible.

DUDE

 

[Chris Timothy]

how did your day end negatively yet again?


you make your bed and you lay in it....but then you get up again and you go because everyday is a new day

don't let your day end negatively

How my day ended negatively is kinda funny. The details make it embarrassing to recount, but in a sense it was a reenactment of Timothy Leary vs the military industrial complex, haha. So easy to end up scaring people with performing psychedelic magic tricks in public. People understand that if this is how scientists enhance performance and solve problems that there's no logical argument against it. So they just turn violent instead. Eventually my little show got cancelled by a preemptive strike by an unbelievably rude war veteran. Gotta be a special kind of stupid to violently condemn psychoactives while drunk, dontcha? The public remained on my side remarkably enough, but the organizers saw their chance to simplify the more general image management problem.

In that sense the day ended negatively. All in all I'm very happy with the couple months of social media tripping. Until it wasn't, the trip has been wild and heart-opening.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

How my day ended negatively is kinda funny. The details make it embarrassing to recount, but in a sense it was a reenactment of Timothy Leary vs the military industrial complex, haha. So easy to end up scaring people with performing psychedelic magic tricks in public. People understand that if this is how scientists enhance performance and solve problems that there's no logical argument against it. So they just turn violent instead. Eventually my little show got cancelled by a preemptive strike by an unbelievably rude war veteran. Gotta be a special kind of stupid to violently condemn psychoactives while drunk, dontcha? The public remained on my side remarkably enough, but the organizers saw their chance to simplify the more general image management problem.

In that sense the day ended negatively. All in all I'm very happy with the couple months of social media tripping. Until it wasn't, the trip has been wild and heart-opening.

Ok good....im just checking in - you had me a little concerned there but you sound a little better now

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

This morning i got the brilliant idea to head into the hood and go buy some fentanyl dope. Well i did the first bag anf was okay but after the second one it was lights out and i overdosed. Had to get rushed to the emergency room and hit with Narcan a bunch of times, turned blue.

Came really close to dying today. Anyone out the fighting and an opiate addiction please dont give in, ive been fucking up real bad this past week. My girlfriend is such a wreck right now, i feel horrible.

cmon charlie

stop FUCKIN AROUND

 

[JackARoe]

DUDE

Ok I feel better now CT. I just want to make sure you have the ability to be present. Sometimes some of you take dissociatives so far out there that communication gets all broken up. But that response to CC shows presence. (I will go back over DM's to re read those, remember your DM's need digesting) Thank you!

And now CC. The benzos and pcp analogs seemed to have derailed you again. Again 2 mgs of flualp or 4 mgs of bromaz would tranquilize an elephant. Under the benzo influence the thought of scoring dope (that was heroin up until 10 years ago it seems) broke through without the restraint. I truly believe you are suppose to be living CC. You would have been dead if not. But we want you living freely to make all your own choices and not told when to have chow or when to go to bed. My suggestion, put the benzos and pcp analogs away, put the synthetic opiates away or in the garbage. String together a few boring days filled with anxiety like we all do and then look back on the scenario. Your girl needs a treat that is not drugs as she was probably scared to death.

Remember boring is good. If you are bored today at least you are safe.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Yeah im done with opioids man, aside from my bupe that is. Took 4mgs so far and 50mgs Memantine, but im still feeling withdrawls not super bad but its been a couple hours since i dosed the Bupe and i didnt get precipitated withdrawals so im gonna take another half strip. I was worried cuz i swallowed a bag with fentanyl in it when they searched me at the hospital.

Got scared cuz there was cops in the proximity and i didnt wanna get arrested for possession. But it seems like its not gonna effect me going back on bupe so thats great. I cant miss work im in a tight spot financially right now and need to save money fast.

In october im supposed to be moving outta here and i need to get more money ready for rent and security deposit, it will all work out. Thankful to be alive right now, im still pretty fucked in the head about the whole situation. Disgusted with myself honestly, this has to be the last time. It just has to.

 

[somnilicious]

Yeah im done with opioids man, aside from my bupe that is. Took 4mgs so far and 50mgs Memantine, but im still feeling withdrawls not super bad but its been a couple hours since i dosed the Bupe and i didnt get precipitated withdrawals so im gonna take another half strip. I was worried cuz i swallowed a bag with fentanyl in it when they searched me at the hospital.

Got scared cuz there was cops in the proximity and i didnt wanna get arrested for possession. But it seems like its not gonna effect me going back on bupe so thats great. I cant miss work im in a tight spot financially right now and need to save money fast.

In october im supposed to be moving outta here and i need to get more money ready for rent and security deposit, it will all work out. Thankful to be alive right now, im still pretty fucked in the head about the whole situation. Disgusted with myself honestly, this has to be the last time. It just has to.

And be careful with that O-PCE it sounds like it could make a person manic which could lead to spur of the moment impulsive decisions. We'd hate to see you crash and burn again. Been there too many times myself

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I'm in US (midwest) so that's a bit of travel. Again, enjoy and think of me while he's filling your ears with all that goodness.

Something like this ecstatic ending to a fantastic set & festival

 

[SuperPsych]

In october im supposed to be moving outta here and i need to get more money ready for rent and security deposit, it will all work out. Thankful to be alive right now, im still pretty fucked in the head about the whole situation. Disgusted with myself honestly, this has to be the last time. It just has to.

I'm so glad to hear that you're okay Cosmic. I say this without any judgement as I know the feeling all too well, but never forget how awful you feel about yourself right now. I myself am a chronic relapser and each time I feel like such a piece of shit for worrying my loved ones. They're the only ones that keep me more or less on the straight and narrow.

We all love you and are happy that you're okay. Please use this experience as a time of reflection and keeping in mind who and what are really important to you in life. Addiction is a bitch and relapse is a part of it. If we can learn from our slip ups and live to see another day then all is good Much love