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🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2025 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

Had a nightmare trip smoking 50mg DMT a couple weeks ago. Taught my simple ass to stick to 30mg tops. Shit I might've already told you guys, I'm blank in the head. Anyway, powerful fucking stuff, not to be toyed with.
 
Well been doing some thinking over the past hour and i might be stocking up on the 3-FLUORO-PCP instead of the Protontazepyne if i end up liking the stuff when i trial the compound next week. Im pretty sure that i will cuz i have never come across a Disso that i didnt enjoy at this point snd ive explored a whole lot of them.

One of the effects ive noticed people make about 3-F-PCP that i found very interesting is how it shares some similarities with Nitrous Oxide. That is one of my favorite drugs so if its true for as well im going to be a happy camper indeed. Feel like i really should scoop up a big batch of this one because if it gets banned in China who knows what group of PCP analogs they will be releasing next.

Sure they could be much better, but they could also be crappy. Its actually very cheap with the price break on 10 grams of the stuff. Do to its potency being then FXE i could most definitely make this batch last me for awhile. It sounds like its hit or miss for some people, but it absolutely does have some glowing trip reports, which is quite promising cuz as you guys know im the, definition of a Disso Head.

From the research im doing it seems like 50mgs would be a solid dose to explore after i take my allergy test. After this im not going to be collecting anything else for a bit cuz i have been spending way too much money. Im going to have to be moving to a new apartment at the end of October because my lease here was only of six months. Im going to need money for my security deposit, first and last months tent and ect.
 
Well been doing some thinking over the past hour and i might be stocking up on the 3-FLUORO-PCP instead of the Protontazepyne if i end up liking the stuff when i trial the compound next week. Im pretty sure that i will cuz i have never come across a Disso that i didnt enjoy at this point snd ive explored a whole lot of them.

One of the effects ive noticed people make about 3-F-PCP that i found very interesting is how it shares some similarities with Nitrous Oxide. That is one of my favorite drugs so if its true for as well im going to be a happy camper indeed. Feel like i really should scoop up a big batch of this one because if it gets banned in China who knows what group of PCP analogs they will be releasing next.

Sure they could be much better, but they could also be crappy. Its actually very cheap with the price break on 10 grams of the stuff. Do to its potency being then FXE i could most definitely make this batch last me for awhile. It sounds like its hit or miss for some people, but it absolutely does have some glowing trip reports, which is quite promising cuz as you guys know im the, definition of a Disso Head.

From the research im doing it seems like 50mgs would be a solid dose to explore after i take my allergy test. After this im not going to be collecting anything else for a bit cuz i have been spending way too much money. Im going to have to be moving to a new apartment at the end of October because my lease here was only of six months. Im going to need money for my security deposit, first and last months tent and ect.
I did a fair bit of 3fpcp. It and 3hopcp were my favorite of those line. They were the only ones that didn't seem to send me over the edge as easy. F is kinda neon and bright feeling while ho is more warm.
 
Any one have any experience plugging DPT? How do doses compare to insufflating?

Looking back I see 45mg split intranasal was quite mild but very noticeable.

I was thinking of plugging 75-100mg. Thoughts?
 
Finally back on the ground after a very magical festival weekend. Day 1 was 2C-D, day 2 AL-LAD, day 3 2C-E, and lots of great music to vibe hard to. So many great sets and a lot of the best ones were total surprises. Sadly one of the headliners I was most excited to see never made it, but the surprises more than made up for it.

One of the most inspiring sets was from this guy playing gqom, a style of very percussive dance music from S.Africa. I've heard of the genre before, but never gave it much of a chance. This set was quite amazing. It was cool to hear this really fresh (for me) kind of electronic music that pretty much abandons the kick vs. snare/highhat dichotomy and just goes deep on patterns.

Going to the festival and hearing amazing music is really inspiring and I just want to get into the studio and write music again. But I'm so damn on the hook now for money and earning and have a hard time justifying the time involved when I have a family and a house and all that and I can use the time getting paid to write code instead of spending the time not getting paid to do music.

Reminds me of a joke I heard today:
What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?
Homeless.
 
Finally back on the ground after a very magical festival weekend. Day 1 was 2C-D, day 2 AL-LAD, day 3 2C-E, and lots of great music to vibe hard to. So many great sets and a lot of the best ones were total surprises. Sadly one of the headliners I was most excited to see never made it, but the surprises more than made up for it.

One of the most inspiring sets was from this guy playing gqom, a style of very percussive dance music from S.Africa. I've heard of the genre before, but never gave it much of a chance. This set was quite amazing. It was cool to hear this really fresh (for me) kind of electronic music that pretty much abandons the kick vs. snare/highhat dichotomy and just goes deep on patterns.

Going to the festival and hearing amazing music is really inspiring and I just want to get into the studio and write music again. But I'm so damn on the hook now for money and earning and have a hard time justifying the time involved when I have a family and a house and all that and I can use the time getting paid to write code instead of spending the time not getting paid to do music.

Reminds me of a joke I heard today:
What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?
Homeless.
Fuckin sounds like a hell of a time, I'm jealous. Would really love to try 2ce again I really only had it once. AL Lad is amazing stuff too, it's like a very crisp, refined lsd.
 
The withdrawals from the Meto are brutal, no need to say i told you so. Really regretting this adventure now. Dosed like 300mgs of Tianiptine over a couple hours and it barely did shit. So i went to this store and bought 5 kratom shots and just took one about 30mins ago and im feeling quite a bit better ad of now.

Gonna finish off this Tia today and then just use only Kratom shots tommorow and then on Saturday induce the Buprenorphine and go back to normal hopefully. Feel like a dumbass i shouldnt have given into the craving, sure it was nice being high the first couple days but after that it just kept me well and i jacked up my tolerance.

Live and learn...
 
The withdrawals from the Meto are brutal, no need to say i told you so. Really regretting this adventure now. Dosed like 300mgs of Tianiptine over a couple hours and it barely did shit. So i went to this store and bought 5 kratom shots and just took one about 30mins ago and im feeling quite a bit better ad of now.

Gonna finish off this Tia today and then just use only Kratom shots tommorow and then on Saturday induce the Buprenorphine and go back to normal hopefully. Feel like a dumbass i shouldnt have given into the craving, sure it was nice being high the first couple days but after that it just kept me well and i jacked up my tolerance.

Live and learn...
As long as a lesson is learned, a slip-up isn't necessarily a mistake. Everytime i slip-up or relapse I try to take something away from it and do better next time. At least it didn't go on too long. Hopefully the buprenorphine induction goes smoothly for you. I'm sure it will
 


Got through work, barely. Listening to The Clash helped get me throught it. Gotta love music. Played all kinds of good albums, one of the perks of being lead cook.

Dude back when I was in high school I was in a band under a music teacher, I had the privilege of playing rhythm guitar at the rock and roll hall of Fame and there was a picture that was taken of us holding up Joe strummers guitar.
 
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Going to the festival and hearing amazing music is really inspiring and I just want to get into the studio and write music again. But I'm so damn on the hook now for money and earning and have a hard time justifying the time involved when I have a family and a house and all that and I can use the time getting paid to write code instead of spending the time not getting paid to do music
I've similarly been faced with that dilemma. My main impediment is time. I've fucking got so little to spare, but it seems that making music is a good use of what I do have. Creativity is such a positive thing and enhances the more drudgey aspects of life imo.

I've recently spent quite a bit on restoring my studio/set up, mainly on the software front but also getting a nice audio interface, keyboard, monitors. I got Native Instruments Komplete, updated Cubase and have been having a blast just exploring the software. Not entirely productive but just so enjoyable.

I say get back into it. There are plenty of good free or cheaper pieces of software and all you really need is a computer. If you like electronic styles, grab the free version of the VST Vital- ridiculously powerful, crisp wavetable synth, similar to Serum but free (although I paid for the upgrade version as I think developers should be compensated for good products). The DAW Reaper is cheap (or free) and all you need then are ears (although drugs help).

Speaking of drugs, AMT Is just a delight. I took 60mg and was possibly too tripped out and sort of confused for a while, but today took 40mg and its hit me with great energy, euphoria, and general good cheer. Am going to smoke some MET later and see what's out there...
 
I've similarly been faced with that dilemma. My main impediment is time. I've fucking got so little to spare, but it seems that making music is a good use of what I do have. Creativity is such a positive thing and enhances the more drudgey aspects of life imo.

I've recently spent quite a bit on restoring my studio/set up, mainly on the software front but also getting a nice audio interface, keyboard, monitors. I got Native Instruments Komplete, updated Cubase and have been having a blast just exploring the software. Not entirely productive but just so enjoyable.

I say get back into it. There are plenty of good free or cheaper pieces of software and all you really need is a computer. If you like electronic styles, grab the free version of the VST Vital- ridiculously powerful, crisp wavetable synth, similar to Serum but free (although I paid for the upgrade version as I think developers should be compensated for good products). The DAW Reaper is cheap (or free) and all you need then are ears (although drugs help).

Speaking of drugs, AMT Is just a delight. I took 60mg and was possibly too tripped out and sort of confused for a while, but today took 40mg and its hit me with great energy, euphoria, and general good cheer. Am going to smoke some MET later and see what's out there...
I don't really have a great set up at the moment but am always trying to jam. I did at least professionally record one single. The rest is just me jamming but I'm sure we could come up with some cool shit. Not sure what type of genres you're into.
 
I say get back into it.
Yeah thanks I think I do need to get back into it, it's soul-satisfying. I don't have any obstacles in terms of software or hardware, I'm very set up and have more studio than I can ever need to be honest. Time really is the tight bottleneck, and I just don't have much leftover at the end of it all. But it's a matter of setting priorities.

Would really love to try 2ce again I really only had it once. AL Lad is amazing stuff too, it's like a very crisp, refined lsd.
2C-E is great. For some reason I'm always intimidated by its power, but every time I take it, it's awesome. I guess it's good to have a healthy respect. AL-LAD is indeed amazing. I'll be sad when I'm all out of it. I don't think I'll ever run out of 2C-E, but I've made a good dent on the AL-LAD. Compared to LSD it's been pretty consistently more visually dazzling, silly, discombobulating (in a good way), and not as self-important. A lot more lighthearted than LSD, and more yin where LSD is yang.

I never can tell if these stories I've built up about the character of the different psychedelics are just built up on themselves as a self-reinforcing expectation pattern, or if they really are the "true nature" of the drug.
 
Yeah thanks I think I do need to get back into it, it's soul-satisfying. I don't have any obstacles in terms of software or hardware, I'm very set up and have more studio than I can ever need to be honest. Time really is the tight bottleneck, and I just don't have much leftover at the end of it all. But it's a matter of setting priorities.


2C-E is great. For some reason I'm always intimidated by its power, but every time I take it, it's awesome. I guess it's good to have a healthy respect. AL-LAD is indeed amazing. I'll be sad when I'm all out of it. I don't think I'll ever run out of 2C-E, but I've made a good dent on the AL-LAD. Compared to LSD it's been pretty consistently more visually dazzling, silly, discombobulating (in a good way), and not as self-important. A lot more lighthearted than LSD, and more yin where LSD is yang.

I never can tell if these stories I've built up about the character of the different psychedelics are just built up on themselves as a self-reinforcing expectation pattern, or if they really are the "true nature" of the drug.
Well, I can definitely say similar things about my experience with al lad, so you might be on to something. I generally have the best time with 2c or mescaline or amphetamine psychedelics. They're just chiller and not quite as jarring, they smooth out some rough patches in your mind. At least they do for me.

But I would prefer mixing those with a tryptamine like 4acodmt, to taking LSD. I just feel like it doesn't feel as claustrophobic mentally and logically. It's more cathartic than L has been for me. But ya know, of course l is still great.
 
Yeah thanks I think I do need to get back into it, it's soul-satisfying. I don't have any obstacles in terms of software or hardware, I'm very set up and have more studio than I can ever need to be honest. Time really is the tight bottleneck, and I just don't have much leftover at the end of it all.
I'm curious as to your setup... what sort of music do you/did you make?

Agreed re: time. As I've gotten older, I see it as the most valuable commodity. But I do feel like music enriches ones life, even outside the actual making of it, so it seems like something worth carving some space for. That flow state one achieves when really in the zone is just amazing.
 
I'm curious as to your setup... what sort of music do you/did you make?
I started out making kind of shitty IDM in the mid 90s, and around 2000 I realized I was going to need to get into DJing if I was going to be able to get my music out there, so got some decks and gradually got better at production into the noughties and then rode the dubstep wave of the mid-late noughties with some tunes that went a bit viral in that genre and in electro house. I had a good run there I'd say from 2008-2014 where I was getting out there and people were playing my tunes. Jungle/D&B/breaks have always been a big part of my sound and I love going back to the old breakbeats and usually work them in one way or another no matter what tempo I'm working with. Over the last few years my output has slowed to a trickle but I've kind of focused on around 100-110bpm stuff, bass music basically.

My setup is pretty much just software. I used to use Cakewalk and then Sonar which I loved until that software really started to shit the bed around 2012, and then finally resentfully switched over to Ableton like everyone else. I was stoked to see you use Cubase because it's a lot like Sonar was, and is super legit. I've been using NI stuff since they began, I think I still have the box for Generator (the original name for what is now Reaktor) around, must have been the first software I ever actually paid for. I'm not attached to too many plugins and use a lot of different stuff but I've been using Serum since the beginning of that synth too.

On the hardware side I have too many synths just because I love them and not because I actually find them very productive to use. Having cut my teeth in the old days I've always collected synths and drum machines like a bit of a hoarder, but over the years I've sold a lot of them because I just can't justify hanging on to them when they're so coveted and valuable, and I actually don't use them too much. I've also got a lot of those old alesis reverbs and some makie consoles and stuff like that kicking around, mostly for shits and giggles, and some modular stuff.

edit: I forgot to ask @swilow , what's your setup and music story, interest?
 
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I just feel like it doesn't feel as claustrophobic mentally and logically. It's more cathartic than L has been for me. But ya know, of course l is still great.
That's an interesting assessment of LSD as being "claustrophobic mentally and logically" - I totally see what you mean but never thought of it that way. I do think LSD is great tho, maybe the greatest, but I haven't taken it in ages because I have all these other really interesting psychedelics to explore that I've just scratched the surface on.
 
I struggle to relate. I've been on acid today, and even though my day ended negatively yet again I can't say I ever felt stuck on the mental or logical level. I can see how LSD could be called emotionally claustrophobic though.. as it leaves little space for growth compared to serotonergic downers.
 
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