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If you're saying you wonder if someone could create a beat for you, that's actually something we've wanted to do for quite a while, record beats for hip-hop. We could give it a try. Would need some info such as the tempo... if you had an example of something on Youtube or whatever that could help, even if it's just for tempo and meter.
 
Hell I'd even be down to do one for funsies myself, that's how I got into music in the first place.

We'll have a PD-wide beat contest for who will be production on SKL's A Lot Story Part I!
 
Wow. I wish I had your dad. :D

I'm hoping I can lure my sister into tripping with me someday. My younger one, that is; my older one is hopelessly terrified of the whole idea. We have had awesome conversations when she was hanging around (sober) while I was tripping.

He's pretty cool. :) We have a lot of really interesting discussions. He definitely has the mindset of someone you'd expect to find here if he were younger and still actively experimenting.

Haha, well good luck! You never know who's thinking about doing what.... I've had a cousin open up to me about wanting to use psychedelics before spontaneously while we were smoking a bowl. She was kind of young at the time and I haven't gotten to see her much since then, but I wonder if she ever got to try it on her own.... I bet she's still interested in it either way. I actually really do like the idea of being able to introduce my family members too, especially since I'm usually the only person I trust to dose things safely too lol.

That's really cool... my parents revealed to me when I first got caught smoking by them that they used to do it in college. My dad liked it, and did it at parties and stuff, but my mom said she tried it a few times and didn't like it because it hurt her throat (smoking shitty 70s weed in joints) and it made her feel out of control. They eventually didn't really care much about me doing it, after I got older... they weren't thrilled but they accepted it, their concern was only that I would get in trouble. Then my opiate addiction caught up to me and they found out about all that, and it scared them so bad... nowadays my mom again accepts the weed but I think it really freaks my dad out, he thought I should quit all drugs (except alcohol he doesn't care about, of course 8)). He got his medical marijuana card at me and my siblings' urgings for the past year (he has ALS), but he doesn't want the kind with THC, he just wants CBD oil, which is good, but it definitely means I won't be getting high with my dad, and I can't imagine my mom ever will either.

On the other hand I have 2 uncles I've gotten high with, and a few cousins too. That's been fun. :) Oh, and my sister of course, my sister was straight-edge in high school and mostly through college too, but then after that she turned into a party animal for a while, she was so much fun to party with. Now she's married with a career job and doesn't really drink too much usually (although she'll still get drunk with us at family parties), and doesn't smoke anymore, but she's not against it at all.

That's pretty interesting. Well, it's too bad that you won't be able to get high with them, but it is nice that they can at least relate and be understanding to an extent. It sounds like all of their concerns are coming from a good place too. :) My parents also kept it from me when I was younger because they were afraid that I would get off track and go a lot of my life without really making a plan like they did when they were younger. They actually only told me that they smoked after I got caught by someone else, particularly to tell me that I could just smoke at home from that point on to be safe if I wanted to. It took quite a while to reach the point it's at now, at first I only smoked with them at times like vacations or parties, and we still didn't talk about it much outside of that. Eventually it reached a point where it was just like a normal daily activity, and I talk to my parents as openly about psychoactives and altered states and such as I would to anyone here. I'm pretty sure they're still concerned about my usage and my ability to handle myself as parents will be, but lately they seem to have gotten used to the idea that I know what I'm doing and I'm using pretty safe substances, it just seems like as normal conversation as anything now.

That does sound fun too. :) I don't have any siblings, but I've always wondered what it would be like to get high with one, and also just to have one lol. Being able to talk to my parents about it is really cool, but there's still a cross-generational thing and plus, they're my parents, and smoking with cousins of a similar age is closer to it, but still, I see my cousins less than I see the same person working the register at McDonald's.... Interesting that your sister went back to doing basically nothing though. I'm not sure if I could do that honestly, there are too many things that I've seen now that I can't unsee, haha.
 
This made me pretty jealous haha ! Sounds awesome.

I've thought many times of giving LSD to my father, but I don't think he would be open to the experience. I think of it a gesture of love, but I'm sure he won't understand it that way haha... Many conversations would be needed beforehand. Sadly I don't see him very often.

Edit: For some reason, when I was trying to post this, the post appeared cropped, unless I deleted the heart from the quote. When I deleted it the whole post showed. BL is weird sometimes.

Maybe BL has an issue with bighearted ppl ;)

Yeah I realize sharing that kind of thing with your parent is exceptional, I'm not certain if he dealed so well with boundaries though, I was left very free until I made a mistake then all my privileges got revoked and it was like he took it personally that I (for example as a teenager) broke his trust, rather than just doing dumb teenager stuff.

@Kaleida: coincidental about the DOX! I'd say synchronicitous if there wasn't so much superstition surrounding it. Yeah odd that my dad didn't respond so well.. I think that with mushrooms the dose was a little low as I only had pretty isolated effects myself (i.e. mostly threshold, but with a few "anomalies"), with nitrous I suspect he was awkward about it and didn't go all the way. With MDMA he said he didn't notice anything, until he came up very hard all of a sudden, threw up and then went back down again or at least reported only feeling weirdness. He has weirdo genes like I do, only I have additional weirdo genes from the other side of the family but I addressed my issues while he was able to just work the system a bit and just got by as a satisfied loner, probably mind expanding drugs were a little too 'real' for him, although I am not sure why he apparently was fine with LSD when much younger.

My mom said she used to smoke up with my dad (the netherlands after all =D ), but once ate some hash my dad had lying around while he was away, when I was a baby or infant... she got so freaked out and paranoid and afraid that she would 'do something' to me, hurt me.. that she was just turned off completely. She is a pretty sober-minded self-described dutch cow, I guess it takes a certain kind of mindset to even want to overcome struggles with a tripped out drug-addled mind. I've seen some weird shit but I definitely like managing that kind of challenges and dare I say maybe it can even 'train' a person to keep a grip in general.
Also when I was a kid, once I had a playover and the parents came up to pick my friend and smelled the weed that my parents had grown that was hanging above the cellar stairs and my parents were really embarassed lol.

Yeah xorkoth it's so fucked up when your parents and/or partner get so scared from your opioid addiction or that kind of thing.. :( Anyway your family sounds like nice people :)

I went shopping at the supermarket and hardware store for materials to build my indoor garden.. cooked winter wraps and want to clean up around the house same as last week so that tomorrow I can take acid and have another lovely day going on a walk, making bruschetta, who knows what else..

Also will drink two cases of beer that has flip-top bottles in the coming while, so that I can use them to fill with the hopped cider I will be brewing soon. :D
 
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That does sound fun too. :) I don't have any siblings, but I've always wondered what it would be like to get high with one, and also just to have one lol. Being able to talk to my parents about it is really cool, but there's still a cross-generational thing and plus, they're my parents, and smoking with cousins of a similar age is closer to it, but still, I see my cousins less than I see the same person working the register at McDonald's.... Interesting that your sister went back to doing basically nothing though. I'm not sure if I could do that honestly, there are too many things that I've seen now that I can't unsee, haha.

Yeah siblings are great, I'm really glad I have them, although when I was young my sister and I had a lot of sibling rivalry (she's 3 years younger than me and I can remember just despising her, not even sure why, probably a competition for attention sort of thing). Once we grew up we started getting along great.

I think some people enjoy doing the standard drugs (weed and alcohol), but that they're never that into drugs... it's just something fun but they don't have a passion for altered states like we do. I know a lot of people that I went to high school with who smoked and drank sometimes, but who stopped doing it after college because for a lot of people, that means it's time to "get serious" and leave that "kid stuff" behind. The idea that psychedelics and weed aren't something a mature adult would do are pretty widespread. My ex, when we got together (first year of college) scoffed at me when I tried to tell her about psychedelics, she said "that stuff's for kids, grow up". Which is really ironic since psychedelics are actually better to use if you ARE grown up. One of my best friends in high school was the biggest pothead among us... he was the first to buy weed and was one of the heaviest smokers I knew. We all went to college, and for Thanksgiving that first year, just 2 months after going off to college (and keep in mind as a sendoff the night before we all went away, his idea was to bake out his car with a massive joint for each person), we all got back together while visiting home. We were like, hey guys, let's smoke. He gave us a serious stinkeye and was like, "do you guys seriously still do that shit? That shit's for kids man, I don't smoke anymore, I grew out of it", and then he proceeded to drink 20 beers that night instead. Apparently at his college that was the prevailing idea, when you get to college you grow up and stop smoking and start drinking. At least among the people he hung out with anyway.

Personally I don't see myself ever "growing out of" psychedelics.
 
Hey guys have I have sad news, trying to track down the guys username at the moment.

I was informed that we lost a BLer to an overdose over the weekend. It was a heroin/benzo/RC combo that caused it. I don't want to name people but he had a former roommate that was also a BLer. I never met the guy but my friend did and he's pretty shook up about it. If anyone knows anything let me know so a proper shrine post can be made.

:(

I know the guy and met him a couple times, we did some dabs together. I never knew him as a BLer, just as a BLers roommate. I was closer with his roomie Bob Loblaw (I don't see the harm in saying his BL handle since they haven't been roommates For a couple years now.)
Unfortunately I don't know his BL name. i saw some memorial posts on his Facebook page and instantly remembered reading this post earlier in the week.
RIP Jake
 
Maybe it's also some sort of projection that just because they "graduated" to drinking, it's the right way to develop for everyone.

If you're really mature, you use viagra.

Like I PMed, although I grew out of seeking really extreme trips and challenging myself to choose a set and setting to make it all extra adventurous, psychedelics are still so therapeutic for me that I'll gladly return to embracing them. Also when I basically quit tripping almost entirely these last year I grew more afraid of it, both because the memory faded including of how benign and alliable they as well as the fear instilled by the really crazy shit like (5-MeO)-DMT.

:( Shit man sorry for your loss.. RIP.. Haven't seen Bob Loblaw for quite some time either, I hope he is okay.
 
Omg this is annoying this is the 3rd time ive had to post this and ive had to retype ir out every time.
New girlfriend now. We really like eachother. Aa of last night we are facebook official. I had a date with her all afternoon yesterday, it was the most fun ive had in a while. How do i talk to her about psychs. I tripped last night on 4 tabs and i wanna either trip or roll at the show we are going to at the end of the month.
Shes gothic. Shes different than "normal" people and i like the fact that shes goth. To me it shows shes a unique person. Her dad told her tje other night no guy likes goth chicks last night so i told her to tell her dad that i said i like her more because shes goth.
 
@Kaleida: coincidental about the DOX! I'd say synchronicitous if there wasn't so much superstition surrounding it. Yeah odd that my dad didn't respond so well.. I think that with mushrooms the dose was a little low as I only had pretty isolated effects myself (i.e. mostly threshold, but with a few "anomalies"), with nitrous I suspect he was awkward about it and didn't go all the way. With MDMA he said he didn't notice anything, until he came up very hard all of a sudden, threw up and then went back down again or at least reported only feeling weirdness. He has weirdo genes like I do, only I have additional weirdo genes from the other side of the family but I addressed my issues while he was able to just work the system a bit and just got by as a satisfied loner, probably mind expanding drugs were a little too 'real' for him, although I am not sure why he apparently was fine with LSD when much younger.

My mom said she used to smoke up with my dad (the netherlands after all =D ), but once ate some hash my dad had lying around while he was away, when I was a baby or infant... she got so freaked out and paranoid and afraid that she would 'do something' to me, hurt me.. that she was just turned off completely. She is a pretty sober-minded self-described dutch cow, I guess it takes a certain kind of mindset to even want to overcome struggles with a tripped out drug-addled mind. I've seen some weird shit but I definitely like managing that kind of challenges and dare I say maybe it can even 'train' a person to keep a grip in general.
Also when I was a kid, once I had a playover and the parents came up to pick my friend and smelled the weed that my parents had grown that was hanging above the cellar stairs and my parents were really embarassed lol.

Ah, that does make sense about the mushrooms and nitrous then, but that is still quite strange about the MDMA! I guess we all are who we are though, I'm sure we all have a little weirdness in us. :) I personally seem to have inherited some weird opioid-related genes from my parents.... They're on the exact opposite ends of the scales from each other, my dad gets some euphoria from them but requires huge doses for real pain killing effects, even as recognized by doctors in hospitals, whereas my mom gets no enjoyment from them whatsoever and feels them so strongly that a single dose of some pills will have her uncomfortable and possibly puking, though it definitely helps with her pain as well. As for me, I usually do not either enjoy them or get overly strong pain killing effects from them, but I do get nauseous from one pill. :S I also am pretty sure I inherited some of my mom's chronic pain conditions, so that'll be fun to deal with later in life, but I am hoping that I also inherited something from her that I haven't quite come across in the general population: resistance to opioid withdrawals! I have no explanation for it, but from what I understand this has been going on her whole life (she's been prescribed opioids since her early 20s). I've seen her be prescribed 120 mg of hydrocodone a day for months, and then when the prescription is over and she goes off of them literally the only difference is that suddenly she is much happier and more active, and not complaining about being sedated and foggy. Though, I suppose it could just be because she's already used to some background level of pain as well....

Also, that's funny about your mom with the hash lol. I mean, it's too bad it turned her off from it, but what do you expect from eating that? xD I'm totally with you there though, even when my trips happen to be really sour or uncomfortable I do actually find some comfort in knowing that it's just another obstacle to overcome that will make me a stronger person when it's over. Even cannabis gave me a lot of anxiety for a good stretch of time but I kept smoking it every day anyway, and now I honestly don't think I'll ever be prone to that kind of anxiety again. It is a lot easier to understand how you could freak yourself out about something like that when your child is involved though. But, they were embarrassed about the smell? Isn't it legal there? I've been waiting forever for the laws to change here so that I don't have to give a crap about things like that anymore haha.

Yeah siblings are great, I'm really glad I have them, although when I was young my sister and I had a lot of sibling rivalry (she's 3 years younger than me and I can remember just despising her, not even sure why, probably a competition for attention sort of thing). Once we grew up we started getting along great.

I think some people enjoy doing the standard drugs (weed and alcohol), but that they're never that into drugs... it's just something fun but they don't have a passion for altered states like we do. I know a lot of people that I went to high school with who smoked and drank sometimes, but who stopped doing it after college because for a lot of people, that means it's time to "get serious" and leave that "kid stuff" behind. The idea that psychedelics and weed aren't something a mature adult would do are pretty widespread. My ex, when we got together (first year of college) scoffed at me when I tried to tell her about psychedelics, she said "that stuff's for kids, grow up". Which is really ironic since psychedelics are actually better to use if you ARE grown up. One of my best friends in high school was the biggest pothead among us... he was the first to buy weed and was one of the heaviest smokers I knew. We all went to college, and for Thanksgiving that first year, just 2 months after going off to college (and keep in mind as a sendoff the night before we all went away, his idea was to bake out his car with a massive joint for each person), we all got back together while visiting home. We were like, hey guys, let's smoke. He gave us a serious stinkeye and was like, "do you guys seriously still do that shit? That shit's for kids man, I don't smoke anymore, I grew out of it", and then he proceeded to drink 20 beers that night instead. Apparently at his college that was the prevailing idea, when you get to college you grow up and stop smoking and start drinking. At least among the people he hung out with anyway.

Personally I don't see myself ever "growing out of" psychedelics.

Yeah, it is nice having all of the attention as an only child, haha. I'm pretty sure it also made me a bit more narcissistic than I would have been otherwise though lol. There are definitely times when I would have much rather had someone like that to share some personal things with too.

Embarrassingly, for the rest of the world, those stories you told remind me of elementary school. I remember there was one kid in my group of friends who suddenly stopped liking Pokémon because the initial fad was passing, and I do mean initial, this was like back when it was new and the trading card game was almost as popular as the video games, so there were a lot of kids who at some point were all ready to just move on to the next big thing. However, that friend didn't come up to us and talk about it or anything.... He just one day started acting like Pokémon was for babies, and we should move on. We stopped talking about it for like a couple days, and then I got together with one of my other friends in that group and discussed it.... We ended up going back and telling him he was full of shit and that we still like Pokémon lol. (And we still do!) So, it makes me sad to think that that mindset still carries on into adulthood and even applies to things such as this, but it's not too shocking to me, especially because I'm pretty sure that Pokémon was at least as big a reward to us as kids as those basic drugs are to adults. It does seem like there is some kind of attitude that beyond a certain age you should stop trying to enjoy yourself and just be a hard working adult... which is totally nonsense. I'd rather die than live in a world that had to be like that.

And yeah, like you say, there's always a completely moronic and illogical exception for alcohol as well, the irony of it being that something like drinking 20 beers in a night is possibly one of the most immature things a person can do, and will only make them act even more so. And also like you said, the idea that cannabis and psychedelics are kids stuff is completely ridiculous.... I personally don't even believe that kids should be using cannabis and psychedelics at all, and I'm a little shocked that anyone would, let alone going so far as to make that kind of statement. Just goes to show how little people actually understand any of these things I suppose....

Maybe it's also some sort of projection that just because they "graduated" to drinking, it's the right way to develop for everyone.

If you're really mature, you use viagra.

Like I PMed, although I grew out of seeking really extreme trips and challenging myself to choose a set and setting to make it all extra adventurous, psychedelics are still so therapeutic for me that I'll gladly return to embracing them. Also when I basically quit tripping almost entirely these last year I grew more afraid of it, both because the memory faded including of how benign and alliable they as well as the fear instilled by the really crazy shit like (5-MeO)-DMT.

Hahaha, there is much truth to that. And yeah, I could totally see the projection thing too, people always think their way of growing up is the best.

I feel that way as well. Both that I've become less interested (but not entirely disinterested) in pushing too extreme, I like the hard trips but I don't need overkill for them, and in that when I don't trip for a while I start to remember more the particularly crazy ones. I felt a good bit of anxiety about returning to psychedelics recently as well, since I had stopped except for a couple low doses since February, but now that I've had a couple new trips under my belt I'm already getting excited to the point where it feels like ages waiting for enough time to pass to get another full, refreshing trip without too much tolerance. Especially since this time I am trying essentially (or completely) brand new molecules, I just want to take them all as quickly as possible!
 
Maybe it's also some sort of projection that just because they "graduated" to drinking, it's the right way to develop for everyone.

Yeah most people tend to grow out of psychedelics and into either heroin or booze or both. I think it has mostly to do with shutting up all the chatter that you've invited into your brain.

Do we know yet who the decedent is? I was a little confused by the above. I have a vague guess as to who but I will not be posting it unless confirmation comes out but fuck can all of you fucking bastards stop dying already I mean all of bluelight seriously.

I definitely will end up enshrined if I don't put a stop to my current direction and that's actually what I'm trying to do I am going to go into an inpatient medical detox facility for something like seven to ten days and see how that works. Definitely time to change some stuff up. Given that several of the fatalities recently have involved alcohol straight up and also the fact that just the other day I had to attend to somebody who just fell out in the street with seizures and DTs is a reminder and a potent one, I myself can't get out of bed without my eye opener and you start getting shakes hallucinations and seizures it's some scary shit.

Been thinking a lot lately on this one episode in college with this one woman the first one that I really could have said that I loved. I had been on one of my various attempts in that part of my life to go straight and stuff basically to the booze. She didn't indulge in anything. But we had this connection and she came up to visit me during the summer vacation when the college students went home (I was both a townie and a student) and we had this long-ass conversation basically ended in her saying that she's in love with me but can't love me or something to that effect actually exactly that the phrase is pretty stuck in my memory. After that I kind of decided to go all out. By no means is this to blame her she was probably right just like my baby moms to withdraw from me but I was on this road to self-destruction or prison but the blame lies squarely with me. it's just odd these cross roads we hit.
 
Yeah most people tend to grow out of psychedelics and into either heroin or booze or both. I think it has mostly to do with shutting up all the chatter that you've invited into your brain.

qft. This applies strictly to the hard heads, not the occasional trippers. You've left out dissociatives, Buddhism and Jesus. Those are also predictable outcomes
 
right. and Hare Krishna
IV ketamine though that's a big one
tends itself though to lead to heroin
the subjective effects are wildly different but the psychology of the rush and the needle and the floating away from worldly cares are similar

but yeah I mean only the serious heads
just go to any festival and practice some participants observer sociology lol
 
Yeah most people tend to grow out of psychedelics and into either heroin or booze or both. I think it has mostly to do with shutting up all the chatter that you've invited into your brain.

qft. This applies strictly to the hard heads, not the occasional trippers. You've left out dissociatives, Buddhism and Jesus. Those are also predictable outcomes

This makes sense according to my own experience. Psychedelics exacerbate the illusion of birth-and-death -- also known as subject / object dualism, the One becoming the Many, and various other descriptions -- which one might argue is the central problem which Buddhism promises to solve. This forces you into a critical position, which makes or breaks you: either awaken to the fact that you are infinite, or become crippled by the illusion of separateness (and respond by drinking away the pain, or some other escapism).

This, I believe, is the mechanic by which psychedelics tend to precipitate "ego loss", which is basically a temporary sneak-peek of true enlightenment / satori / nirvana.
 
certain Eastern religions do have a tendency to speak to certain subjective experiences brought on by psychedelics (particularly in high doses), but most Buddhist religious authorities disapprove; there was one particularly well known pamphlet written ca. 1967 condemning psychedelic "shortcuts" to Nirvana in very strong terms by a particular Buddhist or Hindu guru, I forget the details but it's a sentiment shared by many as far as I know, my mother is a pretty hard-core Buddhist and her guru or whatever is dead set against it. however
, Western religions, particularly the more mystical teachings in Catholicism and even some charismatic/Pentecostal sects also have much alignment.

as I've said it's all about hitting the "salience receptor" (to refer back to a term I've coined), and set and setting have a great deal to do with it. ALSO, remember that the counterculture in the Western world even antedating the hippie movement by far (Crowley, Hesse, two huge influences on the former) had a lot of interest in Eastern religions and the same sorts of questions which lead the counterculture to become interested in this sort of thing before LSD became mass marketed; Kerouac was mainly into speed, Crowley into opium and such although he did experiment with cactii, etc but it's a cart and horse question — psychedelia and Eastern philosophy are memetically linked influencing set and setting even in people quite ignorant of the latter based upon some simple things variously absorbed or one might even say the collective unconscious
 
the 3-MeO-PCP train has really arrived in this group of friends :)



Infinite amount of love to you all <3
 
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Here's some 3-meo influenced poetry, written by my oldest friend

I love autumn
I love the smell of rotten leaves and mushrooms on the ground
I love the cranberries covered with freeze, waiting so patiently to be picked up
I love the cranes flying in the sky that are headed to southern warmness
I love the little puddles covered with freeze
I love the crisp early morning breeze that makes you feel so full of life
I love the sound your boots make when you step on frozen leaves and sticks
I love the feeling of a loved one hugging you in the midst of maple leaves
I love autumn
 
Wow man, I was wondering where you'd been. I did think it seemed like you were taking too many drugs, like I was back in 2006-2008... I never went to rehab but still. Glad you're getting on an even keel. :) Drugs can have a place in a healthy human life but it has to be done purposely and with self-control.

I was wondering if anyone noticed I was gone and it seriously makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to see this post Xork. I am much much healthier and have much more self control than I did before rehab which is good. I also just feel way more internally happy with myself and my life like it would take a lot to bring me down right about now. I had a breakthrough when I was going to post a 'i'm depressed, help me' type of status on facebook but I stopped myself. I decided to just think of all the things i'm grateful for in my life instead and it brought me right out of the depressing mindset.

I was doing too many drugs but mainly things like cocaine, benzos, obscene amounts of THC, and probably dissociatives too. my psychedelic/empathogen usage was probably at about once or twice a month besides specific special occasions. and I know that if I do trip at this upcoming burn, I won't be tripping for a long time after that probably like at least three months when gem and jam festival happens.
 
My friend is an underwater welder and a peacekeeper. He told me stories about diving and his assignments in Afghanistan last night and mentioned this documentary, I really recommend it. It's really tragic.
Not a surprise, he loves 3-MeO-PCP. :D

http://divingintotheunknown.com/en

Directors word: "It occurred to me that cave divers and astronauts are really the last true explorers in the world today. Going deep inside these caves means having to rely solely on their own skills, as no GPS or other devices can reach those depths."


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Hey everyone, I was just wondering if anyone in this fourm could help me out. Im planning on researching some magic-mush spores and was curious if anyone could refer me a couple of potent strains. Any help is gratefully appreciated. Thanks coming from Rhode Island!!
 
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