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Robert Anton Wilson, The Illuminatus Trilogy has been recommended to me numerous times increasingly.

Connected with a splash of 3-MeO-PCP today, turned my frown upside down ya might say. I'm getting very vortechsy.
 
vortech said:
I'm getting very vortechsy.
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I do love it when I get all AppleCorey. :)




I'm curious. Have any of you ever felt that you attained something only after willfully abandoning it? In other words, have you ever tried and tried to achieve something, lost all hope, and finally made peace with the idea that you'd just have to live without it -- upon which you suddenly found that you were overflowing with inspiration and energy, and you began to meet with success?

If the answer is "yes", my follow-up question is, how do you explain this apparent paradox?

(edit: I made a thread in P&S if you'd prefer to answer there.)
 
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Help?!?! said:
David Mitchell is a really talented author. Their all good but Number9 Dream is really great. He writes very vividly. Cloud Atlas is a good one too.
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David Mitchell is fantastic, one of my favorites. Cloud Atlas is a masterpiece. I took a break from his work so I can savor it and each book will have more impact. My fave of his is Black Swan Green. There is a bit in there about bullies "the brutal may have been molded by a brutality you cannot exceed." Bone Clocks is a bit of a sequel to Cloud Atlas. Not as intricate but still a lot of fun. Cloud9 is next on my list now.

Another author y'all may like is Jeff VanderMeer. His Annihilation trilogy is top notch.i swear he must have been on dissos when he came up with some of the imagery.

Ok one more reco, House of Leaves by Danielewski. I read it during a period of frequent tryptamine use and started to think I was living in the book, fucking terrifying.
 
Sorry to double post, seems like my posts disappear when I try to edit on mobile. Apple Core, Wu Wei baby. I responded in your thread.
 
“You see the first thing we love is a scene. For love at first sight requires the very sign of its suddenness; and of all things, it is the scene which seems to be seen best for the first time: a curtain parts and what had not yet ever been seen is devoured by the eyes: the scene consecrates the object I am going to love. The context is the constellation of elements, harmoniously arranged that encompass the experience of the amorous subject...

Love at first sight is always spoken in the past tense. The scene is perfectly adapted to this temporal phenomenon: distinct, abrupt, framed, it is already a memory (the nature of a photograph is not to represent but to memorialize)... this scene has all the magnificence of an accident: I cannot get over having had this good fortune: to meet what matches my desire.

The gesture of the amorous embrace seems to fulfill, for a time, the subject's dream of total union with the loved being: The longing for consummation with the other... In this moment, everything is suspended: time, law, prohibition: nothing is exhausted, nothing is wanted: all desires are abolished, for they seem definitively fulfilled... A moment of affirmation; for a certain time, though a finite one, a deranged interval, something has been successful: I have been fulfilled (all my desires abolished by the plenitude of their satisfaction).”
― Roland Barthes, A Lover's Discourse: Fragments

This is a book I want to read.
 
Applecorey, your inquiry is probing at something profoundly deep. God is a paradox after all. Ill head over to your thread.
 
Xorkoth said:
Whoa that sounds great. I'm going to order it right now on Amazon. Do you have any other fantasy you recommend strongly?

I recommend Brandon Sanderson's Storm;light Archive very highly... only the first 2 are written, out of a planned 10. But really good. Also The Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind is really, really good. I love them so much.

EDIT: Okay I see the two you mentioned are 13 books so that's plenty. I ordered some of them, thanks for the new reading material suggestions! I read some reviews on amazon and they sound great, especially the Malazan Book of the Fallen.
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The Joe Abercrombie stuff is a lot easier to read, the story flows in a slightly more linear fashion, though there are usually multiple narratives. They are extremely violent though, but it is done with a bit of a black humour to it.

The Malazan stuff is in another league. It is almost impenetrable, the first book is not the best (that would be the third and fourth) and I literally still do not understand how this universe is structured. Its also very dark, very grim and violent, lots of dying but there is a genuine afterlife in this world so... Incredible stuff. It has made other fantasy seem really light in comparison.

I've got a problem with a lot of fantasy and that its not 'real' enough. I can rarely understand the characters motivations. Or it seems to be set in a highly santised world. I liked the Robin Hobb books but found them very lightweight. A Song of Ice and Fire probably caused this.

I reccommend these, its sci-fi/fantasy by Gene Wolfe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_the_New_Sun and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_the_Long_Sun
I suggest you do not read anything about these books, particular the Long Sun because there is an interesting little twist that I had great fun realising.
 
swilow said:
I've got a problem with a lot of fantasy and that its not 'real' enough. I can rarely understand the characters motivations. Or it seems to be set in a highly santised world. I liked the Robin Hobb books but found them very lightweight. A Song of Ice and Fire probably caused this.
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I think you'd really like the Sword of Truth series then. The characters are beautiful and extremely well-written and realistic in their personalities, they feel like real people to me that I know and love. The world has a lot of magic and stuff and has some fairy-tale elements sort of, but the storyline deals with the issues facing our culture today. There is so much emotional impact... he uses intense scenes of cruelty and suffering to juxtapose the goodness in people and to illustrate the power of dogma to cause others to behave horribly. I could go on and on, they're amazing books. The 6th one is my favorite but they're all great. They definitely get more and more intense as they go on and there are 12 of them. The first 3 are written kind of from this place of innocence or something, which is shattered later on. The whole concept he's trying to get across slowly emerges. They get much grittier and more real as the story progresses.
 
That's right. I have learnt that the mind is extremely powerful if you have faith. Always remember that everything will be fine. :)
 
I just replied to a Reddit thread posing the question 'how to become a poly-drug user, as someone who is currently a poly-drug *abuser*?' I want to get PC's wisdom and input here because I have also been working on this for many years now and admittedly am not 100% there, but compared to myself years ago I am light-years ahead.

'Respect. Respect the power of the tools (they are that first and foremost, so see them as that, not whatever else you associate with the word 'drug') and respect you body as a temple, love yourself, and acknowledge your consciousness as having the potential to embody the spirit of God's creation. Strive to reach the highest manifestation of your self. Strive to sustain balance within the cycles of ups and downs. Keep your ego in check. Listen to your intuition. Be Woke AF.'
 
^For me it helps to keep a calendar and write down what you use and how much each day (I omit cannabis products). That's how I keep myself in check with stuff like MXE and opioids.
 
solistus said:
Just got back from my date - I think it went reasonably well. I was nervous as hell, but she was very understanding, and we had a great conversation. She seems to bring out the best in me, and made me feel better about myself than I have in a long time. It ended with a handshake, which isn't the best sign - but she also said she wants to see me again and is going to text me her number, so I'll count that as a moderate success. She's a really incredible person - kind, intelligent, passionate about helping people in need (she's in a Masters program to become a social worker, and before that she was a nurse at an abortion clinic). There's a nagging voice of anxiety and self-doubt in the back of my head telling me things probably won't develop in a romantic direction, but I'm doing my best to tune it out and just see where things go. Even if we just become friends, I know I'll be very glad to have her in my life. Hopefully the lack of sparks at the end of this date was her being mindful of my anxiety and giving me time to get more comfortable around her, and not a lack of interest on her part - I guess time will tell. We definitely have a lot in common, and she seemed to have a good time. Definitely the best first date I've had from OKC, and the first one that left me feeling better about myself than I did going in. I'm already looking forward to seeing her again. That same nagging voice of self-doubt is telling me not to let myself get too attached before I know whether she's into me romantically, but fuck that noise - I'm gonna let myself be optimistic and excited for once.
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It feels so good when you can let go of those voices and relax. Whatever happens with her, friend or lover, it sounds like a good person to get to know more.
 
TheAppleCore said:
I feel like saying I'd refuse to work for any employer that drug tested me on principle, but I guess if I were really down on my luck, I'd rather fake a piss test than sleep on the street.


Hey hey hey, guess what my latest favorite song is?



I absolutely love working / meditating / Bluelighting with that in the background. It's a real rainstorm recorded in Alaska, by the way. <3
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Living in our drought stricken state I would liken this to porn. Maybe I will start listening to this like people with Seasonal Affective Disorder sit under lights. We did get one downpour in October that actually sounded like this. All my neighbors and I were out like little kids in the street. Now we are half way through November with no more rain than that one storm. I do hear we are supposed to get some this weekend but whether it will be a glorified mist or actual rain remains to be seen.

I think one of the most delicious things in the world is to walk around in a tropical rain. Being able to experience that soft water on your skin without getting cold is one of life's great pleasures.:)

I'm going back to Ecuador/Peru in January and there is sure to be rain in both the Amazon parts and the Andes so hopefully I will get a good long drink for the soul.
 
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