☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: Somatic Swirly Sepia Summer Sausage Stage Set Suppository

[Bluuberry]

So I don't really know where else to post this but a lot of you on PD have been really kind to me since I started actually posting and stopped lurking. For those of you that didn't see my thread, I had a seizure last week. I suspect it was due to missing a day or two's worth of benzos and generally partying too much, but I've noticed my cognition has been shit the past few days. May be due to other reasons, but basically I'm asking if anyone has any advice or can help steer me in the right direction of how to get my brain healthy. I normally do lots of research on my own health and pride myself on taking good care of my mind and body, but I seem to be incapabale of holding a train of thought or reading much more than a few sentences at a time. This is really scary for me, as a generally intellectual person - it's waaaay off base for me, and my motor skills are wonky as fuck.

I've made a series of poor decisions that led to me being literally completely broke after I pay rent tomorrow, so I can't seek professional help at this time. If anyone feels inclined to help me figure out what sort of vitamins I need to take or lifestyle changes I need to make, it would mean a lot to me. Please PM me if you can help. Sorry for the bummer post, but I don't feel like most of the people on TDS really understand what to do in this sort of situation. I don't mind explaining in more detail, but would rather do it over PMs than describing in depth on the web any more than I already did..

I've done a few hours of research on seizures online but it's generally just left me confused about what to actually do to get healthier, besides drink more water, eat more food, and stay sober as much as possible. I'm going to take a break (for real this time) from 3-MeO and all other dissos, I'm starting to get too many negative side effects anyways. So again, if anyone can help or just offer support, please PM me. Love you guys.

 

[Help?!?!]

It's okay brother! I'm I'm terribly so to hear your hurting. This place doesn't have to be all good or a generalized place to place for disscission! A lot of people(myself) ise this thread to talk about problems and barriers in life! So don't feel like the odd man out!

Personally if clean up for awhile, no drugs, etc. Just focus you! Save some money if you can sand need too.

I hope everything lines up for you! I'm only sa PM away if you need to talk!

 

[Xorkoth]

I've got a short work day today, and Monday off, so that's cool. I woke up this morning feeling slightly off, I have a sore spot in my throat (actually it seems like it might be where I was snorting 3-MeO-PCP, now that I think about it). I also feel a little... a tiny bit head cold-y. Hopefully that will fade, I've got a String Cheese show to see tomorrow.

Has anyone here messed around much with pregabalin + psychedelics? It seems like it might have potential. I tried pregabalin + LSD once. It wasn't quite as magical as I'd hoped; kind of a messy, fucked-up feeling trip. Maybe I just didn't get the doses right.

Not pregabalin, but phenibut and psychedelics is great, and I find pregabalin and phenibut to have a lot of similarities. Phenibut is amazing to combine with psychedelics, it provides this stable euphoric and anxiolytic base while not sacrificing any of the power of the psychedelic. I would imagine pregablin could do the same, but with both drugs (phenibut and pregablin) you have to get the dose right. Too much of either is sloppy.

Also, does anyone know where Roger&Me went? He was cool.

Yeah he left BL, not sure the details but it involved Lounge politics I think (he was a mod there for a good while). It was a big bummer and very sudden.

 

[Help?!?!]

I just did 4-AcO-DMT just with pregabalin, (coming down right now)any psych combo I've done with it has been awesome and amazing. It just combines well with most things. It's so relaxing at higher doses but not the lazy kind because it can be sort of stimulating, for me at least. Everytime I take a higher dose I end up cleaning everything then I take my dog for a 5-10 mile walk in the woods. I really love pregabalin and I'm really happy I have a prescription for it. I need to schedule a visit to my doctor though. I want to get back into pain management. It's so much better because all they do is help people in pretty bad pain so their really well versed about what to give you for your specfic injury. I was in pain management but after two visits my insurance lapsed so that went to shit. We talked about a bunch of different opitions and she ended up giving me a solid dose of gabapentin and pregabalin. It worked really well. It was bullshit though because it happened multiple times where I would up shit out of luck with getting my meds. I haven't had them as long as I did have them. Though since I got medicade things have been good and consistent.

I've done it with many psyches and the best though was dissociatives. MXE and a gram of pregabalin, I'm in heaven. The cool thing to is high doses of pregabalin are fairly trippy by itself. You can get really nice CEV's and your regular vision is kinda wacky too.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I cleaned my house cleaner than I've seen it in years, and it feels almost foreign now 8(

 

[Xorkoth]

I've got short hours on Fridays in the summer so I'm about to start cleaning my house too. Actually now that I think about it I'm getting a lot done today, work, making 2 food components for meals (chicken and asparagus stock and tomato-based pasta sauce), gonna install the final screen doors on my back french doors, and clean my floors really well.

 

[relbatnrut]

I think this is a wonderful thread, do I'm ducking in to ask...whaddya think, should I trip on the 4th if it is cloudy out? It's not supposed to be rainy or anything, just 50-60% cloud cover all day. I would just wait, but I really like the idea of watching fireworks

 

[TheBlackPirate]

Do any of y'all enjoy humorous social commentary? I found this on the net.

https://www.reddit.com/r/webcomics/comments/4qf3km/old_hat/

Such a shame blacks and other minority groups remain over represented in our prison complex (the largest in the world). Peoples' old prejudices die hard. I am glad we are making progress. It's difficult imaging, in general, racism was government sanctioned and the KKK received the endorsement of presidents of the United Sates less than 100 years ago. Folks, I hope our society keeps improving in areas such as race, mental illness, alternative sexuality ect. More progress should be made.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I think this is a wonderful thread, do I'm ducking in to ask...whaddya think, should I trip on the 4th if it is cloudy out? It's not supposed to be rainy or anything, just 50-60% cloud cover all day. I would just wait, but I really like the idea of watching fireworks

I prefer me a cloudy day, especially if it's windy. In the end though, only you can decide whether the weather meets your desires 8)

 

[TheAppleCore]

^ Ah, a fellow cloudy-weather lover! The sun does make the world so sparkly and pretty, but there's something about cloudy weather that relaxes your mind and turns your thoughts inward in a very pleasant way.

I've noticed an interesting, and somewhat disturbing, trend in the net.drugs community in general. it used to be really, for me and a lot of my circle, about wanting to try and acquire from among a certain set of substances (i.e. the Shulginalia, almost exclusively), finding which ones you liked, and then keeping some around...now, ever since mephedrone I guess, it seems to be much more about getting something new and fancy marketed to us, it crashing, and then some (likely inferior) substitute coming in ... there's certainly more compounds but not necessarily more art as far as I can see it, although much of that is the melancholic "I was there when" talk of a hobbyist who's hobby has been commercialized on a vast and global scale and gone are the friendly small places and well informed small businessmen. well, what can one do.

I miss being a kid, when I didn't have enough fond memories of the good old days to get nostalgic about anything.

So again, if anyone can help or just offer support, please PM me. Love you guys.

I doubt it's PM-worthy, so I'll just post it here, but my best advice for anyone in this situation is that optimism is a powerful medicine. It's important to remember that the human body and mind can achieve some incredible feats of recovery, and painful experiences can often be a source of great wisdom and inspiration.

As they say -- mind over matter. Your reality is whatever you believe it to be. If you perceive yourself as a broken person, that's exactly what you'll become. But if you learn to see your adversity as a beast that you can and WILL slay, and gain strength in doing so -- again -- it'll be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Help?!?!]

Cloudy days with moderate wind are the best IMO. That way even if it's hotter than you'd want it to be the clouds/wind offer some protection from that. Plus I just love clouds, the designs/formations they make, and watching floating lazily across the sky.

 

[SKL]

Such a shame blacks and other minority groups remain over represented in our prison complex (the largest in the world). Peoples' old prejudices die hard. I am glad we are making progres ... Folks, I hope our society keeps improving in areas such as race, mental illness, alternative sexuality ect. More progress should be made.

such a shame that people think that one's drug of choice would make them interested in someone's political opinions

I should soften and qualify: the association of psychedelia and left wing politics really irritates the hell out of me. needless to say I'm not a leftist but neither were most of the people I tripped with at least until I moved to the city. most were essentially apolitical. my original drug hooks were WP skinhead pharmacy robbers and bikers and shit. (some of my old friends from here might not have even known that.) then I got into the hippie scene which again was never really about politics. nor was I for many years... but deadhead for Obama? Jerry would be rolling in his grave. I more or less stopped going to shows. few exceptions of course.

the social mores of a lot of neo-hippie sorts are actually pretty patriarchal. most of the people who I fucked with back home had pretty traditional views on homosexuality, race, etc., as do I.

most of the people I initially knew in the city were apolitical just into it for drugs but the few people who were into "social justice" were insufferable. when I started seeing lecture titles like "homosexuality and transgressions boundaries with sacred lesbian ayahuasca spirituality" and heard lunatics talking about "patriarchal phallic mushroom cults" psychedelic conferences I stopped going...not to mention the ayahuascaniks and such love of all spiritualities except their own ancestors...it wasn't THE reason but was a big WTFRLY? moment. as was when people I considered friends albeit people with deplorable political views stopped speaking to me once I stopped supplying drugs because I didn't appreciate the beauty of diversity of "alternative lifestyles" or whatever

also, lumping in my mental patients with these identity politics groups does a distinct disservice to both. mental illness knows not race nor class nor whatever.

anyway drugs are apolitical
drug users might be political
bluelight has a forum for that
assuming the politics of the audience because of its taste in drugs is a major faux paus imo

 

[jammin83]

I didnt notice anything overly political in that post. Prisons are full of blacks and browns. That's pretty factual. I think most people into psychedelics have experienced oneness or at least realize that prejudice and systemic opression isn't much of a good thing. Seemed pretty harmless to me. But I'm not into any sacred lesbian ayahuasca shit either . I keep up with some political stuff but it's always the same old debates. It's mostly petty arguing so I'm over talking about politics for the most part. I would move away if I could the country has gone to shit.

Bluuberry, I wouldn't worry too much about the brain thing just yet. It hasn't been a lot of time. Brain things can improve but it takes a lot of time. I took a high dose of an anti psychotic for five years and I haven't recovered yet. It's been about two years for me that I've had issues and I think some of the neuropathy and stuff isn't going away. My concentration is pretty much shot but I had legit add before so it's way worse now.

What's helped me some was methyl b12, chelated magnesium, and a good b complex. Electrolytes are good too. Eating well, exercising, and laying off of drugs are supposed to help too of course but I haven't been able to lay off the drugs entirely. Ibogaine helped me for a few months then I destabilized again trying to reduce my gabapentin. Gonna order more soon and go for broke. This ain't no life man.

Hope you were able to take it easy on the dissos. I doubt those would be of much use right now. I have some similar issues as you with balance and stuff and some other things. Feel free to pm me if you want.

You guys should be careful with the lyrica gaba stuff. Take long breaks from it. I get really fucked up withdrawals from it. I've been on it a long time but it really dumbs me down and fogs my brain. Can't remember shit either. The longest I've been without it was a little over a week and it didn't feel like it was easing up anytime soon. Total mind Fuck. I missed it last night and I feel my body tensing up and the wds warming up.

S0me people the withdrawal lasts for a really long time, I've known people that have been sick longer than a year from it. Just a heads up. Not something you want to be dependent on ime. They told me it had no withdrawal and neither did zyprexa lol when they put me on them. I know it seems pretty benign but I don't think it is esp long term and daily.

Cheers PD.

Hope y'all have fun at cheese. Love me some cheese so long as they don't play whole sets of the hokey shit. Always have fun either way. Def a lysergamide band.

 

[SKL]

prisons are full of people, period
many for drug offences which is unfortunate
that constitutes the majority of the people I know who are doing time
(who are pretty much all affiliated with white organizations. even the people in for slinging dose work. prison has a way of sucking life down to its essentials and tribal identity is one of them. a lot of people experience political awakenings in prison though. some even transcending identitarianism: see the recent pan-identitarian hunger strikes in federal supermaxs.)
taking up crusades about tribal or other identity issues remains however a political act. especially outside. and a bit of a rich one when it's done on behalf of others.

 

[Help?!?!]

Yeah it surely happens! I was on a large dose of gabapentin years before I needed the pregabalin, never noticed any WD's from it, thank fuck! I've used pregabalin too for about three months daily, never noticed WD's either. I'm just thankful I'm one of the few who doesn't, they sound terrible from what I've read about them! Now a days I usually alernate dependent on how active I want to be. I did this sometimes before to save doses for recreational use but lately have been doing it always because I've been quite sober these past few months. Plus the pregabalin high is really awesome and nice, too.

 

[SKL]

I've been using gabapentin lately rather extensively to help me cut down on the booze. it helps. but tolerance is a bitch and when used concomitantly with alcohol at a certain dose any benefit disappears at that dose in helping with alcohol issues

 

[pharmakos]

the bigger issue in corrections isn't the over representation of blacks, but the over representation of men.... there are 10x as many men as women behind bars in the US, even tho men are only arrested about 2x-3x as often as women.

and that's just arrests. there's no way to keep track of the number of times women are let go from the same situation that a man of the same background would be arrested in.

men do statistically commit more violent crimes than women, so that accounts for some of the discrepancy, but it doesn't come close to accounting for a 10x discrepancy...



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on a lighter note, an IRL friend of mine was just hired to be a photographer for VICE. her first assignment was to photograph Electric Forest.

https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/electric-forest-2016-bassnectar-totems

 

[relbatnrut]

I prefer me a cloudy day, especially if it's windy. In the end though, only you can decide whether the weather meets your desires 8)

^ Ah, a fellow cloudy-weather lover! The sun does make the world so sparkly and pretty, but there's something about cloudy weather that relaxes your mind and turns your thoughts inward in a very pleasant way.

Cloudy days with moderate wind are the best IMO. That way even if it's hotter than you'd want it to be the clouds/wind offer some protection from that. Plus I just love clouds, the designs/formations they make, and watching floating lazily across the sky.

I think y'all have convinced me. It's time to broaden my horizons (somewhat literally). Also the forecast is looking much sunnier as of now :D

 

[Img_9999]

such a shame that people think that one's drug of choice would make them interested in someone's political opinions

I should soften and qualify: the association of psychedelia and left wing politics really irritates the hell out of me. needless to say I'm not a leftist but neither were most of the people I tripped with at least until I moved to the city. most were essentially apolitical. my original drug hooks were WP skinhead pharmacy robbers and bikers and shit. (some of my old friends from here might not have even known that.) then I got into the hippie scene which again was never really about politics. nor was I for many years... but deadhead for Obama? Jerry would be rolling in his grave. I more or less stopped going to shows. few exceptions of course.

the social mores of a lot of neo-hippie sorts are actually pretty patriarchal. most of the people who I fucked with back home had pretty traditional views on homosexuality, race, etc., as do I.

most of the people I initially knew in the city were apolitical just into it for drugs but the few people who were into "social justice" were insufferable. when I started seeing lecture titles like "homosexuality and transgressions boundaries with sacred lesbian ayahuasca spirituality" and heard lunatics talking about "patriarchal phallic mushroom cults" psychedelic conferences I stopped going...not to mention the ayahuascaniks and such love of all spiritualities except their own ancestors...it wasn't THE reason but was a big WTFRLY? moment. as was when people I considered friends albeit people with deplorable political views stopped speaking to me once I stopped supplying drugs because I didn't appreciate the beauty of diversity of "alternative lifestyles" or whatever

also, lumping in my mental patients with these identity politics groups does a distinct disservice to both. mental illness knows not race nor class nor whatever.

anyway drugs are apolitical
drug users might be political
bluelight has a forum for that
assuming the politics of the audience because of its taste in drugs is a major faux paus imo

I'm sorry but I can't agree with that.

Prohibition is the result of a very specific political order. And using drugs takes someone that is at least willing to question and subvert that order. That is, of course, a political action.

I think the association of drug users to "leftwing" comes more or less naturally ( although of course not necessarily) because the world frame that lead to prohibition of drugs and the subsequent exclusion/prosecution of drug users is currently materialized in a discourse more associated with the "right-wing": conservative capitalist democracy. From there, it only seems natural and coherent to me to sympathize with the fight against all kinds of oppression that result from this specific order.

I mean for me it was my discredit in society's boundaries that lead me to experiment with drugs, and not the other way around, anyway. So I think it's okay if you are into this only because you wanna get high. But seems kind of naive to me to look away from the fact that using drugs automatically makes you an enemy of "traditional" values. That's a very political phenomenon.

Also, if you think social justice is an insufferable concept, maybe you are taking your hedonism too far...
But hey, I dont really know you, so sorry if this post sounds like some kind of lecture or whatever... Im sure you know your shit, this is just my opinion.


@Bluuberry

I'm sorry you are going through this, man. As it has been already said, the human brain is incredibly resilient. You will probably go through a couple of shitty months... but keep on strong!! I'm sure time will heal.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I don't care how lame this is:

-Has anyone ever listened to the Backstreet Boy's first album recently? I found it while cleaning my house, thought I lost it when I was a kid. It's honestly one of the most solid, single filled pop albums I've ever listened to. No joke, it's simply an amazing pop album. They have the numbers to back up it's success. Sometimes I think people hate 90s pop just because it's 90s pop.


SKL, I agree that drugs are apolitical.