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aMT is pretty good stuff.
Then again so is MXE ;)

NKB one of the great things about MXE is that it is not a very powerful dissociative (untill you eat hundreds of mg's IME) and that makes it a damn good social lubricant.
Using it everyday is easy but not using everyday isnt too hard either with a little willpower. Or after you use it daily for a while it kind of loses its charm until you take a break.
Ive found tolerance with it drops after a short break unlike ketamine.
 
I miss Ketamine, its been over a year since ive had any. MXE isnt really a replacement for it but its a wonderful drug in its own right.
Talking about it makes me want to dose some now but im saving it for tomorrow and/or sunday for some halloween celebrations.
 
delsyd said:
NKB one of the great things about MXE is that it is not a very powerful dissociative (untill you eat hundreds of mg's IME) and that makes it a damn good social lubricant.
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That does not sound great, that makes it sound like it has a high cost:dose ratio, I like my dissociative experiences to be near or at hole levels just like I like to get my nod on with opiates (GABA drugs I like to get slightly tipsy, so hooray for moderation!). DXM being the exception because it costs 1 dollar for a second plateau dose. Hundreds of mg to get where I want to be? Ehhh, I got used to that with the 4-MeO-PCP so no problems there. And since this probably wouldn't be a crystally freebase, it wouldn't be so murderous on my nose if I decided to snort...Eh, I'll have to read about it more. It certainly sounds much more interesting than those 3-MeO-PCx's that are floating around, which don't really interest me at all. Assuming I get income and then can open a bank account, MXE will be 2nd on my drugs to get list, GBL being the thing of primary interest (though that one makes me nervous, since it's Schedule I in this state and the vendors these days don't package as discreetly or so I've heard), and a 4-sub-tryptamine of some sort (haven't decided which).
 
I guess its great for me because i like to party and MXE is a great party drug.
And MXE is on average pretty cheap per gram, so even a couple hundred mg's isnt too expensive compared to illicit substances.
 
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what price? I dunno whatchu talkin bout mang. (and its okay to break the rules sometimes so long as nobody notices, its not hurting anybody)
Small social gatherings are fun.
I had Xorkoth over my place a few days ago, we carved pumpkins and whatnot, and went to see Paranormal Activity 3 with our ladyfriends, i had a few bumps thru out the night, i hoped it would make things more spooky but i was too busy feeling good and happy about nothing to be spooked by anything in the movie. Ketamine lends itself much better to watching scary movies IMO.

tonight i drink beer and eat junk food while watching the roast of charlie sheen.
WINNING.
 
Delsyd said:
what price? I dunno whatchu talkin bout mang. (and its okay to break the rules sometimes so long as nobody notices, its not hurting anybody)
Small social gatherings are fun.
I had Xorkoth over my place a few days ago, we carved pumpkins and whatnot, and went to see Paranormal Activity 3 with our ladyfriends, i had a few bumps thru out the night, i hoped it would make things more spooky but i was too busy feeling good and happy about nothing to be spooked by anything in the movie. Ketamine lends itself much better to watching scary movies IMO.

tonight i drink beer and eat junk food while watching the roast of charlie sheen.
WINNING.
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Its never ok to break the rules. Don't you listen to the government?
 
Delsyd said:
Small social gatherings are fun.
I had Xorkoth over my place a few days ago, we carved pumpkins and whatnot, and went to see Paranormal Activity 3 with our ladyfriends, i had a few bumps thru out the night, i hoped it would make things more spooky but i was too busy feeling good and happy about nothing to be spooked by anything in the movie. Ketamine lends itself much better to watching scary movies IMO.

tonight i drink beer and eat junk food while watching the roast of charlie sheen.
WINNING.
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Now that sounds like a good time. Hmm, using the two dissociatives I am very experienced with as an alternative metric, it would make sense that K would work better than MXE for movie viewing. The more cold, mechanical (or should I say sharp, angular, crisp?) and clearheaded (not clearheaded as in it's not confusing, but a certain lucidity that allows your mind to latch onto something and orient itself around it better. Am I making any sense?) dissociative is better for that purpose than a warmer, organic (blunted, round, hazy), muddled experience. Perhaps those aren't the best terms for the ones you're talking about, but from what I've read there are certain parallels I think.


Oh yeah, Attack the Block is out on DVD now, watch it! All of you, 'tis one of the best films of 2011 IMO. Those brits can make some damned good cinema. I mean bloody good.

PS - send me some K over wonka vision. Or just hand deliver it during an OBE. It would likely become my favorite drug instantly if I ever had the chance to get some.
 
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willow11 said:
Ah, Psox, sounds good. Nothing like face splitting smiley-laughs :) I've taken a bit of k and walking around the city...is nice. Might smoke spliff...
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Ah yes, I have forgotten what a nice psychedelic experience is like. I don't think I'll ever use MDxx for anything other than small group social gatherings. When solo I used to love empathogens but AMT just trumps. Clear head, calm, lasts a long time, no crash, allows more freedom of thought train. I think AMT is forever going to be my solo empathogen of choice.

I also notice how much more clear my mind is. It's like I'm so much more able to take in and remember information. This is going to help greatly with school. I'm going to moderately get back on the psychedelic bandwagon now that I'm in an okay state for it.

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GBL being the thing of primary interest
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Ditto. I added some GHB to the aMT and it was heavenly. I only have about 5 more doses of G though and now way to re-up so I'm going to try to find some GBL as well.

Well I'm going to aim for a kratom nod. I've never tried for it because of nausea but now with a bit of opie tolerance I think I can do it. I also have diphenhydramine to help nausea and enhance the nod. Up on 3g right now and feeling fine, going to take another 3.
 
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Ah yes, I have forgotten what a nice psychedelic experience is like. I don't think I'll ever use MDxx for anything other than small group social gatherings. When solo I used to love empathogens but AMT just trumps. Clear head, calm, lasts a long time, no crash, allows more freedom of thought train. I think AMT is forever going to be my solo empathogen of choice.

I also notice how much more clear my mind is. It's like I'm so much more able to take in and remember information. This is going to help greatly with school. I'm going to moderately get back on the psychedelic bandwagon now that I'm in an okay state for it.



Ditto. I added some GHB to the aMT and it was heavenly. I only have about 5 more doses of G though and now way to re-up so I'm going to try to find some GBL as well.

Well I'm going to aim for a kratom nod. I've never tried for it because of nausea but now with a bit of opie tolerance I think I can do it. I also have diphenhydramine to help nausea and enhance the nod. Up on 3g right now and feeling fine, going to take another 3.
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aMT is also on my to try list but that one is scheduled in the US (ha, not like that would stop me from ordering, it's not like GBL which is a bulky liquid much easier to spot and pretty much just shipped in doses that they could accuse of intent to manufacture/distribute with or something). GBL does combine well with just about anything. I used it with 4-aco-dmt once to make things more pleasant, but then when it started to wear off I redosed and carped out. When not talking pure euphoria and taking into account the ability to use very frequently without developing physical dependence/losing all your money, it'd probably be my favorite drug yet. I've missed it, more so now since going on my old walk routes here (that I haven't been on since I lived here, the lasts couple months of which I only walked while on GBL). Being sober just makes it feel like something is missing. Hell, I almost miss the taste (and it's probably the nastiest tasting shit I've ever had).
 
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Haha, funny how you get to love the taste of nasty drugs. A lot of my stuff is in concentrated liquid solution for easy dosing. I love the taste of diazepam, my friends all think it's nasty but as soon as I feel it inside my mouth I instantly start feeling good. The GHB solution tastes like weird super salty water, I haven't quite acquired that taste yet.

AFAIK GBL isn't scheduled in Canada but I'm sure Health Canada has banned the sale of it (we're allowed to import things we can't buy domestically; it's true; go figure). I just need to find a reputable wheel cleaner ;)

I was actually thinking of 4-AcO-DMT earlier. It may be my next real trip. I may take aMT again before that but for a real trip I'd like to experience 4-AcO-DMT; when you hit it right the euphoria is so pure and clear. :)

This aMT trip has me into tryptamines again. I was going to take 2C-C but I'm glad I took aMT instead. :)

Okay, 12g kratom down the hatch, that should be the ceiling. If that doesn't work I'll just take another diph. or some diazepam.

edit: I also realised something tonight; I gotta move out of my mom's friend's basement. It's where I live when I'm at school but I need my freedom and a good setting for saturday night trips. This place is a good stepping stone but I'm going to start looking for a pad. A guy's just gotta have his own place ya know?

:)
 
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I was always too lazy to convert it into GHB proper. Plus I kinda like that it hit hard and fast, and is a bit more intoxicating. I want more tryptamines too, 4-aco-dmt gave me some great experiences, though I found it easy for things to get unpleasant (but the unpleasant things were very educational and taught me a lot about myself, it's just the emotional aspect that could bother me if I wasn't in the right mood).
 
^ That's what I mean about hitting it right. Things of the -DMT class are like that... especially mushrooms. I will no longer take mushrooms, just too risky, soul rape unpleasant stuff.

4-AcO seems to be the most benevolent of the group. It's like the LSD of 4-sub-tryps. Just make sure you're in a good state for it and things usually work out well. I'd be interested in taking low dose aMT, waiting for it to beautifully plateau, and then take a dose of 4-AcO. I think that would be an amazing launching pad and make an wonderful trip.

I've never actually had GBL. The GHB I got came as a waxy powder until it got more and more moist until I decided I beter dissolve it before it got messier.

edit: whoa, high dose kratom, diph+diaz just kicked in, this is gonna be nice, ttyl folks :)
 
Just coming down off the last of some HUGE psilocybin waves :) :) :) From 2.5g of stem powdered and taken in freshly squeezed lime juice and orange juice.

GODDAMNIT I forgot how strong they were taken like this, holy fuck.
 
Careful doing strenuous excercise on meth. There's that one time I did yardwork all day in the sun on that shit, and in spite of my persistant efforts at hydration, the next day either dehydration and/or electrolyte imbalance (I suspect I already had this to an extent at that time) really messed with me, collapsed upon suddenly standing due to blood pressure, extreme lethargy, unquenchable thirst, tremors in my hands. Ate nutritiously and took supplements, rested, and got better pretty quickly though (yes I did see a doc to be sure I was alright).
 
PepperSocks said:
^ That's what I mean about hitting it right. Things of the -DMT class are like that... especially mushrooms. I will no longer take mushrooms, just too risky, soul rape unpleasant stuff.

4-AcO seems to be the most benevolent of the group. It's like the LSD of 4-sub-tryps. Just make sure you're in a good state for it and things usually work out well. I'd be interested in taking low dose aMT, waiting for it to beautifully plateau, and then take a dose of 4-AcO. I think that would be an amazing launching pad and make an wonderful trip.

I've never actually had GBL. The GHB I got came as a waxy powder until it got more and more moist until I decided I beter dissolve it before it got messier.

edit: whoa, high dose kratom, diph+diaz just kicked in, this is gonna be nice, ttyl folks :)
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I can personally vouch for the aMT + 4-AcO-DMT combo, it is amazing. Highly reccomended :)
aMT is one of my favourite tryptamines/drugs in general, such a versatile compound. Its like the 2C-D of the tryptamine class - well, not really, but it shares the tofu property of 2C-D, imo. It makes for a great launchpad/enhancer of other drugs, especially tryptamines. Some people on here claims it goes great with MXE as well. :)
 
So you guys find MXE helps with socialising? Would this apply for someone with real anxiety issues too? I was originally getting it to explore higher doses like I always did with Ketamine, but from what I'm reading low doses could be real therapeutic.

I might cut out the a-PPP then and get AMT and MXE. I don't know, it'd be nice to have a stimulant stash since I'm having issues with my sleep pattern and hate feeling dead all day, but at the same time that's mostly from a purely recreational perspective since I'm not in education or work right now.

The AMT + 4-AcO-DMT combo does sound lovely, but I'm not sure if I'd get the chance to try it. As I'm sure I've mentioned here before, all my last 10 or so 4-AcO-DMT experiences, except the most recent one, left me curled up in the foetal position hating myself and thinking that I'm pathetic for not getting over my anxiety issues etc. Kind of weird given that my first 5 or 6 experiences with it were the most kind, warm, loving experiences I've ever had on any drug.
 
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