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yeah. the world is strange atm. boston-thing touched me too. shouldn't have looked @ those pictures...stay strong and wise bros&sis in the US!..
also my psychedelic science career came to a sudden but hopefully temporary halt today. what really disappoints me is that it seems that you cannot trust people even in this field... :(


kidklmx said:
DMT+N20 might be heavy and far beyond any drug or drug combo there is, but would it have that special feeling of a ++++?
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the experience is simply as deep as it gets. completely abstract. instant ego death, merge with the divine, rebirth. all of this not in a slow&peaceful, but in a massive and information-bombardement way. the experience itself is of ++++-quality for sure, if/in which way it's life-changing depends...
 
Yeah but shouldn't the reason why straight up DMT isn't a ++++ apply here too? I mean, it's the most intense experience (without combining things) and easily a +5 on the shroomery scale. Like I said, my second trip ever looks/feels REALLY special the more I look back on it. At the time I thought that was how a proper trip was supposed to be, as the trip before that was pretty weak. It wasn't nearly as intense as DMT, or any other substance really (it was with 540ug, that's not a heavy trip at all). But special it was. I guess that using the word special rather than intense is a measure for ++++-trips.

Anyway, describing a ++++ is pointless. You'll know when you're having one ;)

And yeah my heart is with the victims of Boston too, though things could have gone a lot worse if you look at the sheer amount of people at such an event.
 
the first time i smoked pcp I took enough home with me to dip one more joint. I had not taken lsd in a few years and got a blotter earlier so I took it. It had been like 2 hours and I thought it was bunk so I went outside to smoke the rest of the sherm. Holy shit as soon as i finished that the acid kicked in. Definite ++++, never been the same since. I learned a lot about myself and who I wanted to be that day.
 
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the first time i smoked pcp I took enough home with me to dip one more joint. I had not taken lsd in a few years and got a blotter earlier so I took it. It had been like 2 hours and I thought it was bunk so I went outside to smoke the rest of the sherm. Holy shit as soon as i finished that the acid kicked in. Definite ++++, never been the same since. I learned a lot about myself and who I wanted to be that day.
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Honestly nothing like LSD + a dissociative. First time I ever took ketamine I was at a music festival in Asheville and was already on 2 hits of super strong shock tart lsd (like two drops of liquid on each shock tart) when I ran into some ketamine. Had to buy some because it had been over 5 years since I've been searching for some. One hell of an experience. I was back in my tent, pumped with THC, LSD, and then ketamine. I was gone into another universe.

Speaking of dissociatives, I have some 3-meo-pcp coming soon, which i've been wanting to try for 4 or 5 years now. I'm sooo excited.
 
Lol for sure being stuck on pcp during an lsd trip is absolutely insane. From what I have read 3-meo-pcp sounds the most like real pcp of all the analogues. I feel like mxe is much more like pcp than k as well.
 
Considering I was a PD mod I may qualify for advance :P haha. Nah, gonna be real careful of course, always do with a new chem, but still can't help but be really pumped

gonna start with 3mg IM, then if all goes wait a few hours then go to 7 mg IM for the first day of trials (no more till the next exp)
 
iirc I started with ~8mg plugged, thought it didn't do much and took the rest sublingually.
in retrospect I was already close to a manic state similar like the one MXE produces - but with MXE you're (most often) aware that you're totally fucked and it does have a spiritual edge - not in the "holy realms" of ketamine but still entheogenic. 3-meo on the other hand fucks you but you don't really notice it. it's really like observing your ego, no judgment, no guidance. "you" might easily completely identify with that state and forget that you are on a drug in the first place. and thats the point when really stupid shit happens.
I know this sounds interesting but for me it felt more psychologically harmful than somehow educational. ymmv though; my set was slightly sub-par.
 
yo guys I got some tabs today and they look pretty sweet. It's like a bunch of overlapping stars and each one is a different color

it looks tasty
 
sorry, due to lack of experience and unwillingness to broaden my experience with that compound [maybe one more try @ 15mg plugged 8) ] I can't say much more than what I already said. MXE is heavy but also relatively forgiving; it can become dangerous in the wrong hands. from my limited experience 3-meo is potentially dangerous the moment you touch it. opinions about that stuff are quite ambivalent but I feel like 3meo is the sort of compound that is only liked by people that are prone to develop a problem with it (just like meth for example).
 
^.^

3meo is kinda evil isn't it?

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...just plugged the first 15mg of the last 60mg of MXE I own. I spared this for a "special occasion". it seems the rebooting effect of MXE might come in handy atm so I decided to dose.
MXE provides one of the fastest comeups I know. 5min and my mind already feels numb. :)

I'll probably wait for the peak of that dose, plug another 15mg, go out to buy cigs (kind of a necessity on MXE), redose, than put in electronic music, start milkdrop on my projector and do yoga for hours on end to straighten up my mind. that was my usual approach to MXE.
it's been quite some time since I touched that stuff. let's see. I hope it treats me well. (wonder what my nootropic regimen does to the MXE-space)

edit @ t+1/45mg: tripping on MXE has always been and will always be: work. inner work, that is.
15mg to go. <3


edit2 @60mg: nootropics (piracetam&aniracetam in my case) and MXE provide a strange, maybe a vague state. I can't tell if it's better or worse. there's less dissociation but I can feel the power within me. my ego-boundaries seem untouched. my thoughts are linear. there is no fear, there is no mania, there is no madness. there is no endless branching out of thoughts, yet there is some sense of wonder. it feels surprisingly grounded. I feel strong but without any ego-delusions.
zen mode is on but there is no catharsis.

it feels healthy, there is no threat whatsoever.

little voice in my head: "you stupid idiot wasted your last MXE by combining it with all that neuro-stuff!" but it's laughing and giggling. maybe that sort of experience is just what I needed.
does there have to be a catharsis? desire = illusion
 
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took a loooooong walk through the city.

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(shadow in the mist is not an illusion ;) )
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...sights like that and this in my ear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3fOVDTg9pU
MXE is still really nice. <3 [would be nice once a month but...]




edit: topped this wonderful night with a REAL ++++ with (just 25mg of) DMT. god it is so unspeakably lovely. earthshattering. I am so grateful. this presence. words fail.
love you guys.
 
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johannes kreisler said:
^psilocybin, DMT(+MAOi/+n2o - once was enough for a lifetime..), 6-apb (yes!) ... and ketamine recently. this ketamine-experience came out of nowhere and had a sense of eerie "magic" to it, it was beyond anything I could explain nor integrate [telepathy, to name it], undoubtedly ++++ though.

a ++++ is very hard to define. but when you experience one, you know it.

btw: I'm quite sure a breakthrough dose of DMT immediately followed by a lungful of n2o would consistently produce a ++++ in most human beings; as in: merge with the divine. how many of those would be able to healthily integrate such an experience is a different question...
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That is definitely a combo I would want to try. I found mushrooms+dmt to be very powerful, spiritual, and introspective trip that taught me some important lessons. I can only imagine what N2O would added to the trip since it really takes you to another plain of existence when mixed with psychedelics. Once while I was peaking on mdma I took a few huge hits of salvia and nice sized balloon of N2O right after I exhaled. I opened my eyes and found my self on the floor of a rain forest. Out of the various powerful psychedelic and dissosociative combos 4meo-pcp+dmt while in the shower was one of the few trips that compared in intensity.
 
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kingme said:
is that Vienna? am I right? :)
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"and the 'recognition of old piles of stones award' goes to..." ;)
nice church. often visit it when solo-tripping. it's so sad to see what they do with this tremendous setting. if you go inside and they do on of their degenerated rites you just cringe. it's really sad. I'm often like: "let me stand there and talk about the nature of reality and the human experiment, people might actually gain some enlightenment!" ;) what they do is just a caricature of anything remotely transcendental or spiritual...

kingme said:
congrats on your +4!
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thanks! :) don't think it was 25mg though. it was a machine I had in the freezer with some amount of DMT in it, left over from a previous session. I guess it was more likely 35mg. hours of mxe-instrospection, a long walk, a shower, cleaning my place and burning sage, open windows, then yoga at dawn. then the idea to smoke the DMT - after all those rituals. it was just the perfect set/setting (popped 1mg of lorazepam an hour before - as sleep was not in sight - though and was a bit worried but DMT is so, so much stronger than any other compound...). there was no transition. the moment I felt it, I was already gone. my hands fell to my side, hit by lightning. the spirit came and brought me "home". it brought me to a time and space in my development I always considered to be traumatic. this time it was sooooo OK... :) (it's this aspect that makes it a ++++)
I heard music but it was not the music from my speakers. I asked "is that you?", the spirit changed and played with the music as if saying "yes man! XD". it was generally very playful and loving. I talked loudly with the spirit several times (ime this is generally a good approach for further accepting the state and aid integration), made compliments, showed my gratitude and said farewell...

after all it's all in your/everyone's mind and that's the most amazing part of experiences like that. (people build churches like that above to get closer to that state. it's sad to see them look for it in the wrong places...and even sadder to see people taking advantage of that human need)
 
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