NKB said:
^Been using amps again, pepper?
No, not to any level beyond a cup of coffee's worth, and not while I wrote that or the post I'm writing now. The thing with the codeine I extract; each tablet has 375mg ASA, 15mg caffeine, and 8mg of codeine. The ASA gets seperated by CWE (or just RTWE) fairly easily, but the caffeine comes along. So 10 tablets gives a nice 80mg of codeine, but also 150mg of caffeine; a rather decent cup of coffee's worth.
just letting people have a reasonable quantity of something researched and relatively safe that would improve their quality of life.
what will improve the quality of their lives in the long run)...and a big part of that opinion is derived from my experience as a member of this board.
Right, my concept is off; it's not about doctors at all. A precscription is a "doctor's orders; you must take this much, this often...". What we're talking about is therapeutic to a point, but often a temporary crutch, and often simply recreational. What I was thinking of is a system where people who prefer mild opiates to alcohol can obtain
reasonable quantities. Ten regular 325mg APAP/ 5mg Oxycodone tablets a month would fit me sound as a pound, and that's the upper level of use. If one could walk up to the counter and obtain a recorded monthly aliquot, it would be more controlled than it is now; where I can go to a counter and ask for a bottle of 8mg codeine tabs, one could buy 10 bottles a day by driving around to different pharmacies. Following extractions, there's PRN codeine.
It's the old prohibition debate that has nothing to do with the medical establishment. PRN alcohol is available for therapeutic, celebratory, and recreational purposes. Heroin used to be the under the same situation as the 8mg codeine tabs; walk up to a pharmacy counter, ask for it, purchase. Obviously frequency of purchases was not recorded or controlled, and it got abused which led to social problems, thus prohibition. The difference between alcohol and heroin is that more people used alcohol, so much so that it simply could not be contained.
I understand the medical establishment's view on not prescribing (doctor's orders to consume) drugs with high abuse potential unless necessary. The major reason I hold that view is that Pandora's Box effect. My doctor's orders to the nurses to put fentanyl and morphine in my IV made me feel nice, after that the order to consume oxycodone for 2 weeks was not difficult to carry out.
Nonetheless, I am for freedom to use what drug I want as long as I do not cause harm to others or society in general. I think 10 percocets a month is fair, compared to the legality of PRN alcohol, but that's got nothing to do with doctors giving out medication orders.
I'm with dondante on this one. It's runs counter to the purpose of the medical to profession to indulge people's whims for easy solutions andinstant results, when in reality they're just avoiding dealing with the problem and running a high risk of developing dependency and/or the exacerbation of the original problem.
IMO, ideally, you'd just let these patients find out that they don't know what's good for them the hard way.
That's also one method; force them through withdrawal of something. Pregabalin withdrawal worked well. I still use it the odd time, never to excess.
Do you plan to move back out to the country at some point?
Absolutely. Once I put in my time and contribute to civilization I'm getting the hell out of Dodge. The direction I'm going (research) is a fairly urban based profession though; it might be a while (maybe have to wait for retirement) until I can live permanently in the country. Once I'm in a career though and don't have weekends filled with mountains of school work, I can leave the city every Friday after work. That's what my dad did for all of his career until he retired to the place he went on the weekends (my home).
it's that my dream is to live in some quaint little abode out in the woods somewhere, if I ever get the chance.
Ever see "Band of Brothers"? My favorite quote "That night I promised myself, if I survived this, I would find a quiet piece of land somewhere, and live the rest of my life, in peace."
Sounds great! For some reason I think the idea is pretty cool, especially with a rifle... but I shot a pistol once myself and quite disliked it. Still I have a lot of sympathy for it.
I'm not much on pistols either, only shot one once. It lacks the refinement, precision, and usefulness of a rifle. They're weak, short range firearms, and their size only serves the purpose of them being easy to conceal or carry around without being noticed. Essentially the handgun is designed for human-human combat, with some legitimacy in the sport of target shooting.
At least with a 4 foot, wooden stock rifle on my shoulder, I look honest, casual, and cool.
Though I have very little for the whole american gun craze and how easy it is to get one. Not sure how different that is in Canny.
Night and day. We have to take a firearms safety course, pass an exam, apply for a license, after waiting 6 months while they Feds (RCMP) does a through background check, you get a card in the mail that authorizes you to buy ONLY full length rifles and shotguns. To purchase handguns or AR-15 variants, one must take the 'restricted' firearms safety course, pass another exam, go through an even more thorough background check, then they mail you a 'resticted' licence. With that licence you can buy pretty much anything except that all fully-automatic firearms are prohibited in Canada. Also all handguns or AR-15's purchased are registered to your name/address, and may only be discharged at an RCMP approved range, after you have received another permit to transport your restricted firearm, in a lock-box, from your house directly to the range, have your session, then directly back into storage at home.
Despite the red-tape there is to get the licence (even the normal one), data from when all long guns were registered indicated in a country of about 30 million, we had 8 million registered firearms. Now that's registered, just myself I know of many people that had rifles/shotguns before the registry came into effect that never bothered registering (a crime), so as an estimate there's probably a firearm for every 2nd person in the country, although they're mostly located outside the cities and we have very little gun violence. Recent legislation did away with the long gun registry, but the individual provinces are telling stores to keep paper records. The long gun registry did absolutely nothing to reduce what gun violence we have; which usually involves pistols (restricted) and generally; criminals don't have licences or register their firearms.
Personally I have no need or desire for a pistol, so I just have a normal licence, where I can take a normal rifle into a field with a dirt backstop and shoot at a target. My major interest is in old military surplus bolt action rifles. My most recent that I have yet to try is a
Swedish Mauser 1896 (year of the model design, manufactured up until the 1940s). It's amazing how a 117 year old cartridge/rifle design is still one of the most accurate on the market.
Wise words on the opiates. I have been on tramadol way too much the last 2 weeks or so. But I am not getting new ones for a while now that I've run out.
We're totally on the same timeline, my ~2 weeks of benzos and opiates is coming to an end. I have so much work to do and I've been waking up late, missing too many lectures.
speaking of co-PD/Lounge posters, where's Roger&Me been?
Roger's on a BL break, he announced it a month or 2 ago. Too distracting and he has work to do, we all need them from time to time. He's all good.
