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Oh I already saw it last night :D

What'd you think about it Solipsis? I thought it was awesome, definitely an 8.5 or 9/10.
 
Ahh! I saved it for right now: end of a really sweet day and sweet dinner... so excited, waited so long haha

omfnomnom, was a kinda slow start but soon enough it got deliiishes - excellent as ever, so satisfying...
 
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Physical laboring has finally helped me understand the true medicinal qualities of cannabis. A few tokes and my joint and muscle pain is completely negligible. Wow 8o
 
Same with me JAG. Cannabis is such a beautiful medicine! Same thing with me. My neck always hurts and causes migraines and headaches. Plus I have neuropathy in my legs and feet. It works great for that. For me it has so many uses!

I'm on some pregabalin and as always it's great. I really love it. It always makes me want to get back into GHB which I miss very much. It was great to have it around.
 
I know right, which is weird cause it doesn't act in much the same way except for affecting glutamate decarboxylase so the interconversion between glutamate and GABA... It's yummy except for literally... I like to just split up my 150 mg caps by eating half, because the 75 mg ones are more convenient to have... it tastes pretty funky

What happens when you try to be a cubicle jockey, treezy?

I've had a lot of desk jobs though never some true cubicle misery... now I work with wood, but while it's physical labor it has a lot of creativity and technical stuff to make custom objects (well sometimes it's just box-like and dull)... I would never go for just producing the same product over and over again. Anyway point is: I discovered how much I like to have the tangible side of technical jobs, so going back to a programming type career would not seem ideal but I don't know. Seems better to deal with things that aren't only so abstract but only partially..
 
I've avoided my pregabalin for a couple of weeks, not sure why as my back is sore as fuxk. I am so wary of it, last thing I need is another addiction.
 
I never had any problems with it luckily. I know others do though. Even after long term use then stopping CT I would maybe just be a bit more anxious then normal. Watch out though and be careful as others have not had the same experience. If you use small doses once or twice a day(maybe every other day)I don't think you need to be to worried. Sometimes I would seperate my capsules to get smaller doses. If your back is hurting badly then maybe you should try smaller doses. It might not take it all away but it'll help?!?!
 
Well yeah I was on it for maybe 2 years the first run before I took a break, and quitting was hard but in a weird way. I mostly just got very depressed - sure also anxious but the depression was stronger, like worse in some ways than MDMA, and most of the withdrawal symptoms I actually did not felt to attribute to quitting pregabalin. I also did not have cravings, if anything I felt like not taking it (I have that from time to time with pregabalin). Sure there were also some funky physical effects I am not remembering the specifics of, maybe soreness / types of pain. But manageable.
Then again I wasn't doing great in general when I went through that.

So I think of it this way: feeling better for two years and paying two weeks of pure shit seems like an okay deal to me, especially since it somehow doesn't feel like coming off an addiction even though it clearly is a form of dependency.
But I will seek some support when I plan my next withdrawals, so that the 'pure shit' doesn't disrupt my functioning too much.

If you take it for a much shorter time I wouldn't worry about it a huge deal.

Coming off opioids also sucked balls - way more than the pregab - but the withdrawals weren't the biggest problem for me: it was the long winded shit that came after the initial withdrawal syndrome that I found killing. I might take opioids if the only price if it goes really badly would be the superflu-feelings for a week or something. Well ok not saying iv heroin, rather like oral oxy. OTOH the comfort of that state isn't worth becoming a shell of a man with piss poor willpower.

But everyone's different. Probably others find pregab more normally addictive perhaps. I have a similar thing with phenibut which is also a gabapentinoid: I have had 'habits' but they didn't escalate like the terrible things I sometimes read on BL.

I really wonder: if I didn't connect the withdrawal symptoms with withdrawing / with whether I was continuing or discontinuing.... then what bad days I might have had recently are a result of me going up and down with my daily pregabalin intake when i feel like it? I apparently don't feel off when I skip a day, even 2 or 3 or who knows how many until it starts getting shitty. I just miss the benefits of it. Similarly when I took a break from it for a while, I didn't crave it, I just got confronted with my life and problems being significantly more difficult when I don't take it.
I do get 'cravings' when I highly enjoy the effects and am 'on a roll' with things, just my dexamph and being generous with the pregabalin dosing... that just makes me want to do it again, but not terribly so. Neither do I chase those crazy highs you get from taking a high dose with low tolerance... it would fuck up the therapeutic effect and feels obviously wrong, also not worth enjoying just taking a slightly, reasonably high dose compared to the normal (150+ optional 75).

Do you take much higher doses for that pain?

Amazingly I still never abuse my dex. When I imagine what taking a high dose would be like, I just have 'sober' thoughts like "quite nice I bet, but with side-effects". I don't have wild fantasies despite having speeded often enough in the past.
 
I take 300mgs daily. Two 150mg doses. I should get into pain management. It's just the hassle of getting there. I was in it once but only for one visit as after that visit my insurance lapsed. My doctor seems willing to put me there. I should get it done before summer so it'll make hiking much easier!
 
I have a really similar experience with phenibut as you describe with pregabalin (I find the two to be very similar in effects). When I develop a dependence to it (like now), when I don't take it I started to get anxious and feel very flat, but it's not too bad. But I don't have cravings for it, despite that. I desire for the state of joy again, and to not feel anxious, but it's so totally dissimilar from opiates in that way. With opiates to cravings were immense, like I would become entirely obsessed until I got it, if I let even the slightest hint of allowing myself to go there. With phenibut I have no problem sticking to my taper schedule. Which is going well by the way, I'm down to every third day again, with a gram less per dose. Going to get comfortable with that (I still have a bit of shakiness on the last day before my "on" day), and then I'll drop to every 4th day, and then I'm going to take a long break to let my body clear out. And then I will try to just save it for special occasions, such as playing a show (since it is SO good for playing music)

As for cubicle jobs, I worked in a cubicle right out of college for 3 years. I am still at the same job but for the past 8 years I've worked from home. It's almost like not working, in a way, even though I do have a lot of responsibilities and work. But the job has become so stupidly easy for me that I do a bunch of other stuff during work too, like practice piano, household projects, Bluelighting, having sex with my girlfriend, etc. It's pretty fucking sweet. :)
 
I for one am elated to be off pregabalin, after 3 years of being on it. Gabapentin works just as well with less opioid-ish withdrawal symptoms if I miss a dose. On that note thank Fuck I feel like I have gotten over the hump of PAWS from being on suboxone for 2 years. I feel like I am more naturally alive in many positive ways. 'Fuck addiction 2017' is going gloriously.
 
I for one am elated to be off pregabalin, after 3 years of being on it. Gabapentin works just as well with less opioid-ish withdrawal symptoms if I miss a dose. On that note thank Fuck I feel like I have gotten over the hump of PAWS from being on suboxone for 2 years. I feel like I am more naturally alive in many positive ways. 'Fuck addiction 2017' is going gloriously.

That's impressive, and really great. I'm impressed, vortech! I've been enjoying cannabis a bit too frequently, I think. I know I am. I can already tell you that the rest of today could easily be smoked away in a stoned blur of apathy. But I don't want to be apathetic. Time to cut back.
 
Weed is a reality enhancer, until it stops being a reality enhancer, and then you're just stoned and getting left behind. Some people seem to manage really well on it chronically, but it never worked out for me. I find I can make a habit out of it pretty easily, without it being any benefit in my life. Reading about people's opiate/gabanergic addictions ^^^^^ makes me glad I never got into those ones.
 
Yeah, regular weed use never worked for me. It really fucks with my motivation, I notice that even the next day I feel a little bit lethargic and lazier than usual.
I typically save it for live music, enhancing psychedelics/dissociatives and late fridaynight conversation with friends.
 
Yeah, it's the best enhancer for music making. The truth is, the best music I've written has all involved mj. No coincidence that so many musicians, producers etc. smoke. It's tricky though, cause I find it gets to be habitual and the focus so easily, instead of the actual music making.
 
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