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I tried 5-MeO-DMT a few times but never broke through. It was just extremely unpleasant. I know that taking enough to get the full effects is a very different experience, but I don't think I'll ever be willing to try it now. Does 5-MeO-DMT really do something that no other psychedelic can do, or is it just its ability to do it consistently that sets it apart? It's hard for me to imagine something even more profound than my experiences with DPT.
 
cj187 said:
Does 5-MeO-DMT really do something that no other psychedelic can do, or is it just its ability to do it consistently that sets it apart? It's hard for me to imagine something even more profound than my experiences with DPT.
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I reckon that most/many of the psychedelics can get at the same thing that 5-MeO-DMT does to varying degrees, but that 5-MeO-DMT is the specialist in that thing. Everything else is basically stripped away with 5-MeO-DMT - there's very little trippiness, visuals, music enhancement and all of that other window dressing that normally comes along with psychedelics. It cuts straight to the point, or it can do so anyways. Direct line to god if you will.

I can't tell though, maybe it's just the right fit for people like me, and maybe other psychedelics can get at this same thing from a different angle for different people. You definitely hear about people breaking though in different ways on different substances. But I do kind of think 5-MeO-DMT is as close as you could get to the ++++ substance that Shulgin was seeking, but that he overlooked it.

TheAppleCore said:
Which is?
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The core mystical experience that stuff like zen points to. The ground state of reality, unconditioned existence. 5-MeO-DMT can catalyze a quintessential enlightenment experience.

A lesser profound experience I had on a different 5-MeO-DMT trip was a kind of yoga/chakra thing related to posture where I found out that opening my chest allowed my heart chakra to open up, and resulted in an ecstatic outpouring of energy through my chest, with an extremely powerful sensation of light pouring out of it like a gushing river of light. I didn't see light, this is just how it felt. It was a truly ecstatic experience. I'm not the kind of person who is into chakras or does yoga or into crystals or anything like that, so it was very wild to have all this happen spontaneously.
 
perpetualdawn said:
5-MeO-DMT seems like such an outlier in the psychedelic arsenal. It's triggered the most profound realization I've ever had for sure. Totally agree that it's a "very efficient drug for energy realignment". Also that you have to concede control like you guys said. It's not a guaranteed ride, more like a very powerful, challenging tool to work with. I haven't touched it for many months, wondering if it might be time soon.
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Straight up. And how it is naturally occurring, likely along with DMT. I imagine that most street DMT would contain trace quantities of 5-meo-dmt as well, however, negligible. My DMT experiences have been completely different, and more intense in many ways but easier to handle. Gentler. It's like falling asleep for 15 minutes and having a dream, whatever that open-ended dream may turn out to be. The sky is the limit.

I am on this stuff right now. It is so extremely power, I railed 5mg and feel very much challenged and tripped out. My heart rate is up, I am perceiving reality differently. Having really trippy thoughts, and am pretty much couchlocked. I smoked a lot of weed so that likely propelled it to a light dose, combining to form whatever this experience might be referred to. It's like straight up tripping headspace and it can be anything from nauseating and dismal to blissfully euphoric. The power of it from a microdose makes me grin from ear to ear. Figured I'd have a tolerance from tripping 3 months straight last autumn... I don't at all, but haven't touched phenthylamines and lost interest for now. Thought of 2c-t-2 tonight and was like, why not this stuff. It's fucking amazing and I'm like, building trust with it before going for a breakthrough essentially. So far, it feels hardcore. But I trust it in my body for sure and I can't say that about every psychedelic at all.

I've had it since 2010 so I'm not really fucking around with this one. I have always seen it as the psychedelic to revere... I have like 3 grams of it too. I wasn't sure if I would ever use it, but at this time of my life I am drawn to it, somehow found my way into trying it and loved the higher dose.
 
5-meo-dmt HCl is definitely as unique a psychedelic as freebase dmt. The stuff is definitely worth a rail. I don't think I'd smoke it personally. I am getting more than enough out of it this way, and it is great for enhancing meditation.

I'd probably smoke it if I had my dab rig still but there was an incident last year with opiates wihere it was left out and taken as I was unconscious for 12 hours. I wouldn't hit the HCl though, took me a while to decide on on ROA for this one. I'd probably shoot it or IM it before smoking it even though I don't really have very much experience with that (I don't think I would want to). Just seems like something that would be really aweome, I wonder if one can do that with DMT.
 
I did IM DMT but it was synthetic, if it's an extract it would really need to be properly purified and double checked that it is not at risk of partially precipitating under varying conditions.

Also IM'ed 5-MeO-DMT prepared at the same time, IIRC i dissolved them both with citric acid which turned out to be a bit of an excess (ouch). I took them both but after one night with 5-MeO-DMT there was a lot of ecstasy and after that i lost the motivation to keep trying it, that's never happened to me before with any other drug.

In good conscience I can't recommend injection of anything, but I will say that if you would self-administer and experiment you would not want to do that with 5-MeO in my opinion. Something like K would be more suitable for this but milder drugs would be even better for test runs. I guess it would also feel weirder to IM mild drugs, lol. Not a lot of theanine injectors out there i reckon
 
I've (only, haha, fuck) ever injected heroin before. It would be hard to rail a heavy dose of this, would burn. I've done a few 5mg bumps and jeez the stuff is even really self confronting at lowish doses. The way this female entity was staring me down like looking into my spirit. Aversion leads to lots of discomfort with this one. Acceptance and awareness can lead to blissful states. I smoke weed with it and sit cross legged and meditate. Flow with the waves of energy, why resist the waters.
 
perpetualdawn said:
The core mystical experience that stuff like zen points to. The ground state of reality, unconditioned existence. 5-MeO-DMT can catalyze a quintessential enlightenment experience.

A lesser profound experience I had on a different 5-MeO-DMT trip was a kind of yoga/chakra thing related to posture where I found out that opening my chest allowed my heart chakra to open up, and resulted in an ecstatic outpouring of energy through my chest, with an extremely powerful sensation of light pouring out of it like a gushing river of light. I didn't see light, this is just how it felt. It was a truly ecstatic experience. I'm not the kind of person who is into chakras or does yoga or into crystals or anything like that, so it was very wild to have all this happen spontaneously.
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Nice. :) Terms like "nirvana" and "chakra" might not be defined in the most scientific manner, having originated in ancient times, but I think they do at least point to some very important aspects of human nature. If I were to pursue an academic career, I'd seriously consider studying the psychology of mystical experiences, and how they might relate to things like mental illness, etc. It's a fascinating subject, for sure.
 
TheAppleCore said:
If I were to pursue an academic career, I'd seriously consider studying the psychology of mystical experiences, and how they might relate to things like mental illness, etc. It's a fascinating subject, for sure.
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It would be an interesting object of study, and really hard too because these types of mystical experiences tend to elude provocation, and also because they seem to happen purely in the subjective realm - but 5-MeO-DMT would probably be as good a magnifying glass as you could find for this type of investigation.

There's a pretty interesting story about a woman who was a psychiatrist or some kind of doctor, and she had a stroke that broke part of her brain and sent her into some kind of mystical state of interconnectedness etc. She did a TED talk about it. It points to the possibility that this type of thing could have it's roots in physical, causal processes, and could therefore potentially be reliably provoked through artificial means like brain stimulation or something.
 
Just took some O-DSMT mixed with 42mg of 2C-C. Tryna decide on a movie to watch to pass the time. Hmmm...
 
It never got too visual for some reason last night. Perhaps the O-DT stopped it, but it's never been too much of a problem before. 2C-C is weird like that for me. The difference between 40mg and 45mg and 50mg is staggering. It's like you have to reach a certain amount of it before it can be felt. I've never felt any dose below 40mg yet other people report heavy visuals at 30mg. Hmmm...
 
I get a nice little mini-trip at 10 or 15mg even. I usually only take 30mg, though I haven't tried to have a deep trip on anything in quite a while. 40mg is the highest I've taken it. At 30mg it's quite visual for me. Lucky me I guess. :)
 
I've taken 2C-C up to 40 mg as well, and unfortunately it's never been very visual for me. Nice and friendly headspace, but I prefer psychedelics with a bit more of a stimulating bite. :)
 
Huh, coincidentally I just got the chance to score some 2C-C. Haven't tried it yet. I'm usually sensitive to the 2Cs for some reason, so I think I'll start with 15 mg and see what that does to me.
 
I honestly don't think I'll take it at any dose below 40mg from now on, unless in a combo with other psychs. I felt like I wasted the material last night. Should have taken 50mg.
 
All this talk of 2C-C, one of my favourite psychedelics. I am now on 2C-C round 2.0 aka Ibogaine, as I went through my 3 grams of 2C, a daily low dose regime in post acute opiate withdrawal is deemed appropriate
- when I used 2C-C habitually for 3 months it was some of the most eye opening and happiest time of my life. Wonderful material, and one of the only psychedelics I can trip really hard on and still function like normal. Didn't even get much of a long term tolerance either from all that use. So whatever 2C-C does to the body if anything bad I will probably get that.
 
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