☮ Social ☮ PD Social Distancing Tripping Thread: Viruses Can't Penetrate Hyperspace

[psy997]

I'm the opposite, I can't have stimulants around or I take them really frequently, I can't seem to help myself. But I can hang onto dissos are rarely use them. I got severa; grams of 4-FA the other day, I had ordered it quite some time ago. Did it the day I got it, it's not nearly as fiendy as some others but I'm gonna have to do something about that once I do my detox... maybe have a friend hang onto it.



For some reason, I have never developed a physical addiction to nicotine no matter how much I use... currently I have a high potency liquid (24mg/mL, I have also done 50mg/mL for extended periods), but all that happens if I stop is I crave it all the time, there is literally zero physical withdrawal, and in 19 years of using it on and off, I have never felt any withdrawal. No idea why that is, most people I know feel like shit when they don't have it. In my cigarette periods, I actually have felt immediately better physically when I stop. With vaping I don't feel better or worse since it doesn't have as negative an effect.

I don't experience withdrawals either, at least that I can notice, but craving something nonstop is not an experience I am ok with. Experiencing that is a huge red flag for me :/

 

[TripSitterNZ]

Just consumed a amount of shrooms think it was around 1.5 g psilocybe subs so should be a full experince if potency has kept right in storage. Was just eye balling them had 4 mouthfuls that i swallowed with orange juice. Going to shower and hopefully by the end they are coming up.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

Felt like i been shitting out all the poison of alcohol bad food and drugs on this shroom trip. Destroyed the toilet 4 times already. Shrooms helped to give me some more hope to keep moving forward in the face of lifes challenges. Felt like the psilocybin was repairing my cells and trying to give me more life direction.

 

[xammy]

 

[Vastness]

I'm not sure, my cocaine addict days were far worse for me than my ketamine phase. It was the most useless, shitty drug. Unlike on pharmaceutical stimulants I'd get nothing at all done, it didn't even have that going for it.

I would agree re: responsible doses of cleaner amphetamines I guess. Even caffeine turns me into an asshole so I try and stay away. I'll mess with the less stimulating racetams, ginseng, low dose LSD , etc.

That said, COVID is really murder on my ADHD, it's getting really hard not to try and fish for a legitimate adderall prescription or something.

Yeah I guess I'm talking moreso with occasional use rather than habits... the thing with cocaine for me is even though I've had the odd solo sesh here and there I mostly use it socially... and I think that in itself is healthier and somewhat protective or offsetting against the negatives - of which there are many.

Dissos I only ever do alone which is a problem in itself. And nowadays, whenever I start even thinking of cocaine - I also start thinking about how fun it will be when I can have my solo ketamine binge after! Like literally was talking with my friend the other day about how we should have a coke sesh and catch up and I was immediately thinking hmm... maybe I should make an exception to my ACH abstinence just on this one occasion... we'll hang out, do some blow together, then I'll go home and spend time with my one true love and best friend... ketamine. LOL, I'm exagerating about that true love/best friend stuff but only slightly. But what an unhealthy fucking thought pattern is that?! It's like if I can't have my disso binge after what's the point even hanging out doing stimulants... I know I can take some benzos to crash and sleep but that's boring, what's the point. Coke and then benzos, sleep and that's it? NO KETAMINE?? What a waste! Just another example IMO of how much dissos subtly warp my priorities in life, socialising is of secondary importance to the fact that it's an excuse to binge alone on dissos after.

Besides that stuff yeah I agree coke is useless for productivity although I have tried to use it for this purpose, actually this was the main reason I got myself some amphetamine a while back despite having little interest in it before, just so I wouldn't keep trying to use coke as a focus enhancer.

You have ADHD? Is it diagnosed, or self-diagnosed? Interested as I've recently kind of self-diagnosed myself for non-hyperactive ADHD, ie, just ADD, and since realising this it's really helped me to understand my chronic lack of focus a bit better... I've considered also getting a private assessment by an actual prescribing psychiatrist but ultimately I think I would just be fishing for an excuse to have a doctor-prescribed drug which I think would be of dubious long term benefit... I see a non-prescribing psychotherapist and I already medicate myself so the only thing I'd get out of an actual prescription would be, I guess, just a justification to keep on trying to use drugs to solve my problems.

Did you have COVID?? Or are you talking moreso, the isolation, monotony of lockdown and whatnot?

 

[Chris Timothy]

Piecing together a PC while dissociated, daunting of a process as it has been, actually worked out in the end. Hailing from a new mainframe as we speak, so to speak. (Speak, speak, echo, echo? Yeah, internet is my placeholder for speech I suppose.) But it took two season to do so, which is a disturbing thought, the thought of how slow everything has become. Or is it rather more like having stayed stationary in an accelerating world? Hmm.. really hard to excuse doing what kids do in two weeks in two seasons. But it is a step towards getting finally organized.

The dissing of the dissos will never disappear, so I'll join in on it. Vasty's point b) from previous page is something I've experienced in overdoses, but only in retrospect. It's hard to describe an experience of shutting off, dying, and coming back to of course the same situation, but totally context-stripped, void experiencing form suspiciously ancient cuz quite formed already, then only gradually with the progressive re-entry of previous memory, turning back into a sense of familiarity. It's not pleasant, and it's the tip of the iceberg of unpleasant half-memories you get with the bloody brain blender which is the world of dissociative anesthetics... when it's not fluffy cosmic pillow.

Because that's what's important to acknowledge when you want to move away from the lulling ledge of Lilly's chasm. It does give us neurotic nutters blank slates, pauses, temporary calibration, etc.. Naming aspects of what the poisoned chalice reveals, enables us to find them away from the salts. It's why people find meditation after psychedelics. It's why people find jesus community after heroin.

Remember the little book of calm from the series Black Books? It's nice to have a little book, but one you write yourself. If you think you're addicted to drugs, boy, are you addicted to words! I mean, here we are, on a forum. But if you're like me and the laundry is just too dirty to let dry in the open blue light, then a little book of direction is a handy tool to have. Just a little suggestion, external memory deserves a mention if you've been habitually throwing spanners in the retaining works inside of the cranium.

 

[Vastness]

Remember the little book of calm from the series Black Books? It's nice to have a little book, but one you write yourself. If you think you're addicted to drugs, boy, are you addicted to words! I mean, here we are, on a forum.

I think I need to ask you to explain this a bit... I agree that what we believe about ourselves can become a self fulfilling prophecy, so to speak... but equally, words do have an objective meaning, which can be said to probably apply, in retrospect.

ie, for a long time now dissociatives have been making me depressed and not giving me anything good. I have many good memories too - but not for a good few years now. My insistence on continuing to do them despite many efforts to stop, I would say, is evidence of subversion of my will, ie, addiction. We can spin it in some other way but I think this is self-delusion, honestly. Equally, the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves matter. Say I choose not to define myself as an addict, but say that I've been making deliberate choices because my reason for doing dissociatives still has not yet been met, and in actual fact, I'm just still growing in a state of flux, a work in progress (which is true!) then probably I keep finding reasons to keep doing a substance that is not doing me any good. By defining myself as addicted in this instance - I can begin to address it. I'm not a fan of the 12 steps cult but it does seem to be a self evident truth that the first step to resolving a problem is admitting you have one.

I feel I should add that I'm talking about myself here - not casting aspersions on anyone else's behaviour or the story anyone else chooses to tell themselves, I don't know what that is of course and it's not my business.

But if you're like me and the laundry is just too dirty to let dry in the open blue light, then a little book of direction is a handy tool to have. Just a little suggestion, external memory deserves a mention if you've been habitually throwing spanners in the retaining works inside of the cranium.

Hmmmm... maybe I'm being dense but I'm struggling to parse your metaphor. Laundry is... psychological issues? Letting it dry is... what? Posting here on "Blue Light"? (I got that one! ) Little book of direction is a journal? A personal collection of trip reports?

Could you provide some specifics on what you've done with this little book, what external memories you've found helpful, and what kind of spanners you've been throwing into your cranium? Spanners are drugs that we don't want to do but keep doing?

Again I'm sorry if I'm being dense here, I'm sure there's probably some wisdom in your post but I need it explained to me like I'm a child, and I'm sure others would probably benefit from such an explanation too. Unless I'm the only one who doesn't get it fully.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I posted this in the microtonal music thread but decided that it needed to be here as well. Wait until you really want your mind blown and just play even the first minute of it. Enjoy!

I just discovered this Japanese duo called Syzygys that make some amazing microtonal music using a 43-tone scale!

 

[TripSitterNZ]

Might take this half tab and see what happens im pretty sensitive and just leaving it around is just a waste but its night time and ifs it lackluster im not sleeping and feeling drained for nothing much but the last time i took a small dose in dec was probably like 70 ug and i had a short but very nice visual peak with alot of morphing of my fluffy blanket.

EDIT: Probably should of waited for my tolerance to lower from the shroom trip on friday but i felt that it wasen't too strong trip so shouldn't matter nows its probably a 4 hour waiting game to see if visuals will appear.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I tripped on acid this weekend, some guys invited me along and I went with out of boredom and a little concern (some first timers), but it quickly became apparent that it was a mistake. I didn’t know some of them, and at the time I really disliked them. There I was peaking hard on 2 blotters, it felt so incredible and deep but I was basically stuck with them dudes, unable to do anything with what at the time felt like a serious mind opening.
All that said, I’m really getting the hang of LSD, somehow it took me many trips to fully appreciate the drug, I think many months and other psychedelics going over it helped. I ended up staying up for almost 24 hours, and some of the best moments came very late into the trip. I made some easily avoidable mistakes, and lessons are learnt, but man, LSD is so cool. I love playing mental games with the drug all day long, it’s constantly tricking me and luring me into sometimes false things with an underlying ‘AHA experience’ feeling, fucking amazing. There’s not much point in explaining LSD here lol, but it seemed quiet here and I was itching to say something

This is also my 1000th post on here, it felt only right to do it in this thread...

 

[TripSitterNZ]

It can take a while to figure and truly tap into LSD took me a long time aswell. Had a full fledge experince on a half tab strong visuals feeling of enlightement dimension hopping i think the k holes have opened my mind a bit to far for how powerful the LSD trip was for a low dose made me extra sensitive.

The more you manage tap into the full mind unlocking powers of LSD the deeper down the endless rabbit you go. It took me close to 50 trips to finally appreciate it aswell now lower doses can take me far down the rabbit hole.

The mind games are like crazy video game levels you make up on the spot. LSD is a infinite rabbit hole to be explored.

 

[Img_9999]

I posted this in the microtonal music thread but decided that it needed to be here as well. Wait until you really want your mind blown and just play even the first minute of it. Enjoy!

Lol, pretty weird music. I think if I first listened to it while tripping it would really freak me out, or throw me into a laughing fit.

 

[Xorkoth]

I tripped on acid this weekend, some guys invited me along and I went with out of boredom and a little concern (some first timers), but it quickly became apparent that it was a mistake. I didn’t know some of them, and at the time I really disliked them. There I was peaking hard on 2 blotters, it felt so incredible and deep but I was basically stuck with them dudes, unable to do anything with what at the time felt like a serious mind opening.
All that said, I’m really getting the hang of LSD, somehow it took me many trips to fully appreciate the drug, I think many months and other psychedelics going over it helped. I ended up staying up for almost 24 hours, and some of the best moments came very late into the trip. I made some easily avoidable mistakes, and lessons are learnt, but man, LSD is so cool. I love playing mental games with the drug all day long, it’s constantly tricking me and luring me into sometimes false things with an underlying ‘AHA experience’ feeling, fucking amazing. There’s not much point in explaining LSD here lol, but it seemed quiet here and I was itching to say something

This is also my 1000th post on here, it felt only right to do it in this thread...

It took me a long time to "get" LSD too... in fact I wasn't really able to trip on it for many years, I would just get threshold effects, even though friends would be tripping balls, same dose, same batch. The more I do LSD, the less I need, and the better it is.

 

[psy997]

Hey everyone, I just made an inspiring/uplifting piano track, if anyone is in the mood to feel nice.



I'm not a great piano player, but I think it turned out pretty well.

 

[Xorkoth]

Beautiful man. Thanks for sharing. I just bought a(nother) Zoom H4n (I lost my first one a while back). I should record more stuff to share, it's been quite a while.

 

[psy997]

I'm glad you guys enjoyed it!

And do it, Xorkoth! That actually wasn't piano, contrary to the title, but a piano based patch out of Omnisphere 2, played with a midi keyboard through Ableton, so no recording necessary besides in-program. But yea! It feels so good to share stuff. Last night was actually the first time I've made anything in months now. I always forget how good it feels.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Lol, pretty weird music. I think if I first listened to it while tripping it would really freak me out, or throw me into a laughing fit.

LOL. I know, isn't it wild? I've heard (and composed) so much strange music that it's hard to find anything that trips me out but that definitely did it. I think that I had just smoked a little bit of weed the first time that I heard it, so it didn't totally freak me out.

I made my mom listen to it and she said that it reminded her of the "gimme back that filet o' fish" jingle from that funny McDonald's commercial. Now I can't listen to it without craving a fish sandwich!

 

[perpetualdawn]

@dreamflyer have you checked out Acreil? He makes some very strange and interesting microtonal music and has all his stuff up on bandcamp. A lot of his stuff is composed algorithmically. I really like it. Panchromatic window is really good (not microtonal, but melodically fascinating). At first it sounds like some kind of elevator muzak, but then you pay attention and it's really weird... Alaeoric Aubades is good too - that one is microtonal and randomized algorithmic composition. A lot of his stuff reminds me of Autechre if you know them, but a bit more organized and musical.

@psy997 that's really nice, I really like it, please keep sharing your songs on here

 

[Jabberwocky]

@dreamflyer have you checked out Acreil? He makes some very strange and interesting microtonal music and has all his stuff up on bandcamp. A lot of his stuff is composed algorithmically. I really like it. Panchromatic window is really good (not microtonal, but melodically fascinating). At first it sounds like some kind of elevator muzak, but then you pay attention and it's really weird... Alaeoric Aubades is good too - that one is microtonal and randomized algorithmic composition. A lot of his stuff reminds me of Autechre if you know them, but a bit more organized and musical.

No, I'm not familiar with them. I'll have to check it out when I get a chance. Thanks!

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

I think I fell in love today but I'm pretty sure the girl is a lesbian. I'm going to throw my charms on her and hope she's into men too.

I tripped on acid this weekend, some guys invited me along and I went with out of boredom and a little concern (some first timers), but it quickly became apparent that it was a mistake. I didn’t know some of them, and at the time I really disliked them. There I was peaking hard on 2 blotters, it felt so incredible and deep but I was basically stuck with them dudes, unable to do anything with what at the time felt like a serious mind opening.
All that said, I’m really getting the hang of LSD, somehow it took me many trips to fully appreciate the drug, I think many months and other psychedelics going over it helped. I ended up staying up for almost 24 hours, and some of the best moments came very late into the trip. I made some easily avoidable mistakes, and lessons are learnt, but man, LSD is so cool. I love playing mental games with the drug all day long, it’s constantly tricking me and luring me into sometimes false things with an underlying ‘AHA experience’ feeling, fucking amazing. There’s not much point in explaining LSD here lol, but it seemed quiet here and I was itching to say something

This is one of the things I love about LSD. Everyone I've ever given a first dose to swears it isn't working for at least 2-3 hours. The whole group will be tripping balls and I'll be seeing tracers everywhere but meanwhile the guy doing it for the first time is sitting there saying nothing is happening. They just refuse to let go mentally and think LSD will be different than it is. They all eventually come around at some point. Usually around the time you point out that they've been sitting in the same spot for the last 3 hours petting the dog.