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Xorkoth
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Nope the ambulance belongs to the hospital that gets you and is going to charge you obscene amounts of money on top of it. Well, fire departments have ambulances too but in the case of our hospital, it was a branded ambulance for that hospital. It's just what they charge.
SunriseChampion
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Oooh, so that makes sense then. I mean, insofar as why it's so much, not that it makes sense that people would ever have to pay that to get treatment.
That's mental. I would never smoke, drink, or eat anything processed.....I'd try not to breathe for fear of getting ill.
That must be beyond stressful for people who don't have insurance.
Glad you're ok though....and not broke now.
That'd be a double fuck-up! Scare the wife, OD, aaaaand get an invoice for 30K.
That's mental. I would never smoke, drink, or eat anything processed.....I'd try not to breathe for fear of getting ill.
That must be beyond stressful for people who don't have insurance.
Glad you're ok though....and not broke now.
That'd be a double fuck-up! Scare the wife, OD, aaaaand get an invoice for 30K.
thegreenhand
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Jesus christ Xorkoth, I just checked this thread, glad to hear you’re ok man.
And yeah those hospital fees are insane. It’s asinine that people are scared to call 911 because they can’t afford it. My friend is an immigrant and for the longest time his health insurance was so expensive that he gave it up and just had to avoid any “risky” activities like playing soccer for example
And yeah those hospital fees are insane. It’s asinine that people are scared to call 911 because they can’t afford it. My friend is an immigrant and for the longest time his health insurance was so expensive that he gave it up and just had to avoid any “risky” activities like playing soccer for example
SunriseChampion
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thegreenhand
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Tell me about it, he had some depression over it for a while I think. His family’s status just recently got approved for green cards (they were on student/work visas) after 12 years of living here. Now he’s livin his best life
Buzz Lightbeer
Bluelight Crew
I read yesterday that Kim Jong Un studied in Switzerland, now can't the image of him and his wobbly head speaking German out of my mind lol.
I'd have paid to see that
I'd have paid to see that
SunriseChampion
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Dude speaks Rumantsch, trust.
cosmic charlie
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Two days off heroin, just watching YouTube videos and drinking some beers. Been talking with her on the phone alot more and I really need to get my shit together so I can spend time with her soon. Went and bought small amount of groceries and 18 pack so that should help me with cravings. Withdrawing from Gabapentin and Lamictal which is pretty unpleasant especially now with the heavy opiates out the picture. But I'm alive and trying to better myself today so that is a positive. Got this part-time job as a cleaning lady for a ridiculously low amount of money but it gives me some cash toward beer/food/laundry so it's something.
But yeah man today was better than the last and dope isn't the answer so tomorrow I'm gonna try and do this again. Feel pretty sleepy from the booze but that's fine cuz I was an anxious wreck before. Coming off all the pharmaceuticals is a bitch but maybe me losing that bag of pills was a good thing in ways. Have a couple months of Bupe to do a slow taper with but that may get the ax eventually also. With how crazy the world is now its best for me to be on as little shit as possible. Got my Nintendo hooked up to the TV and downloaded YouTube app so I'm catching up on Joe Rogan podcasts I've missed, life could be worse.
But yeah man today was better than the last and dope isn't the answer so tomorrow I'm gonna try and do this again. Feel pretty sleepy from the booze but that's fine cuz I was an anxious wreck before. Coming off all the pharmaceuticals is a bitch but maybe me losing that bag of pills was a good thing in ways. Have a couple months of Bupe to do a slow taper with but that may get the ax eventually also. With how crazy the world is now its best for me to be on as little shit as possible. Got my Nintendo hooked up to the TV and downloaded YouTube app so I'm catching up on Joe Rogan podcasts I've missed, life could be worse.
SunriseChampion
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I'm feeling like I should probably quit drinking again. Had a decent session last night in the carpark with my mate from downstairs and I think after drinking a bunch alone during this plague and now drinking with someone again that I drink way too fast and get super fucking high when I'm drinking with people.
When I'm alone, I pace myself so much better. No idea why this is.
I've quit drinking before for a few months here and there. The first time was kind bunk because I just replaced it with caffeine....I was pounding back like 6-8 cans of the big cans of energy drinks on weekends.
Subsequent times I basically went straight edge during the time I didn't drink...except for tea and smokes.
I quit smoking last year and maybe I should quit drinking as well to be rid of this other highly toxic substance. There are cultural reasons for it being hard as well. I'm big into football (the one with the feet and a spherical ball) and beer is a massive part of that culture. There's nothing like having pints at the pub after a match to celebrate a win or drown a loss.
Also, my central European cultural ties make it a thing that's just done. I mean, no one will pressure me but it's weird all the same.
It's not really causing me any problems except for the inherent negative health effects but nothing acute. I'm perfectly healthy. So I'm super unsure of what to do.
It'd be a lot easier if it were causing me issues. I quit meth because it was causing me problems. I quit smoking because it was causing me problems. I quit K because it was causing me problems.
Other than the withdrawal every time I send it proppa, alcohol isn't causing me the same sorts of problems as those other drugs were.
When I'm alone, I pace myself so much better. No idea why this is.
I've quit drinking before for a few months here and there. The first time was kind bunk because I just replaced it with caffeine....I was pounding back like 6-8 cans of the big cans of energy drinks on weekends.
Subsequent times I basically went straight edge during the time I didn't drink...except for tea and smokes.
I quit smoking last year and maybe I should quit drinking as well to be rid of this other highly toxic substance. There are cultural reasons for it being hard as well. I'm big into football (the one with the feet and a spherical ball) and beer is a massive part of that culture. There's nothing like having pints at the pub after a match to celebrate a win or drown a loss.
Also, my central European cultural ties make it a thing that's just done. I mean, no one will pressure me but it's weird all the same.
It's not really causing me any problems except for the inherent negative health effects but nothing acute. I'm perfectly healthy. So I'm super unsure of what to do.
It'd be a lot easier if it were causing me issues. I quit meth because it was causing me problems. I quit smoking because it was causing me problems. I quit K because it was causing me problems.
Other than the withdrawal every time I send it proppa, alcohol isn't causing me the same sorts of problems as those other drugs were.
Pfafffed
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Oh geez @Xorkoth, I'm glad you're okay! I know more than a few people that have died from combining alcohol and GHB. Not precisely the same, but close enough! I know you've said before that you can't have GHB around because you'll use it compulsively. I'm about the same with alcohol. I actually use GHB so that I won't use alcohol at least some nights a week--I envy your ability to take it or leave it. Alcohol and caffeine remain the only drugs so far that I no longer have what I would call a healthy relationship with.
thegreenhand
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I feel ya, alcohol’s a tricky one. For me it doesn’t really affect my psyche all that much so it feels pretty harmless when I have a drink or three. I have found that when taking a break from a drug you gotta get over that hump and fully detox it out of your system. If after doing that and seeing how you feel for a few weeks you decide it’s ok to start again, then go for it I say
Xorkoth
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I'm glad to hear it man, life really is better when you're stable and not strung out. I'm glad you're bettering yourself, you should do it for you most of all, you're worth it. ❤
I need to do the same. Actually I need to cut all the bad drugs out and get back to just occasional psychedelics and weed. I don't care about caffeine, I'll keep starting my day with caffeine, I barely even think of it as a drug.
I've never had withdrawal from alcohol even when I get drunk every day for weeks... but getting drunk every day for weeks is absolutely awful for you. Even getting really drunk once in a while is awful for you.
Well alcohol is really compulsive for me too. Honestly I need to tone it way down in general or I'm gonna slowly lose my health as I get older. I'm not exactly young anymore, only a few years til 40.
But yeah GHB is much more of a problem for me to have around than alcohol. Alcohol is something where I can decide not to drink and it's fine, but once I start, I don't want to stop for the day/night. Alcohol would be okay honestly, it's just so bad for you. Binge drinking damages all of your organs and I pretty much binge drink or don't drink.
SunriseChampion
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I used to get suicidal and depressed the morning after heavy drinking but that doesn't really happen anymore. Not entirely sure why I got over that.
The problem is that I either don't drink or drink it all. I guess I do have a problematic relationship with it because I find it very hard to maintain any sort of drinking regime that isn't bing use. This is terrible because it's now known that binge drinking is more toxic than alcoholism.
So every time I've stopped for a month or two, I'd say that after about 3-4 weeks, I feel like my mind is sharper and I can sleep better. It feels great. The problem is when I do start again, right from the get-go it's back to the old binge drinking. It's also hard because all of my mates binge drink as well. We're all fucking degens.
So, I have to figure out a way to drink in moderation or I can't go back to it after some time away.
SunriseChampion
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Yeah, my 2L a day tea habit is not going anywhere as it's not enough caffeine to be potentially problematic like my past energy drink use was.
I'm mostly talking about standard hangovers but I have had one very serious episode of withdrawal after drinking in Cuba for 5 days straight without eating after day 2. Shakes like an earthquake and couldn't sleep because of brain zaps/possible seizures. I will never forget lying in that bed being at peace with the fact that I was going to die in Cuba. At least it was nice out!
But yeah, you're lucky you've never had serious withdrawal considering you binge drink.
Binge drinking has been shown to cause changes in the brain some of which contribute to the increased compulsive redosing after initial dose. So, I'm sure, like me you have two drinks and that turns the switch on and it's game on from there.
Xorkoth
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Yep that's exactly it, I can almost never stop at 2 drinks unless it's all I have. I will keep drinking until I fall asleep. Then the next morning I'm like you fucker, why did you do that? I hate alcohol! But then I can change my mind by that same night. Or I can go weeks without drinking, if I don't have any at all.
For lockdown I've been buying a couple of bottles of vodka whenever I go out to band practice, and I've been drinking on many nights at home to pass the time. Really bad habit.
SunriseChampion
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Yeah, this plague has caused me to do two things I never did before: drink on days I never have before and drink alone.
I've been buying beer and wine every time I'm at the supermarket "just in case" because I go so seldom now (every 8-10 days v every other day like I used to) that every trip seems like I need to stock up on everything because who knows what's going to happen with the plague and I may have to isolate at home.
The problem is that 2 of the 3 supermarkets I frequent sell beer, wine, and cider (only some supermarkets here sell alcohol and none sell liquour). I may just stop going to those for the time being.
I used to buy a bottle of wine at a supermarket like twice a year and now it's been every trip.
I'm planning on finally leaving my post code next weekend to go hiking outside of the city so I'm going to not buy any booze this week and get to bed early and get my day on Saturday started at sunrise (as opposed to the going to bed at sunrise that I've been doing a lot of in the last two months).
Have you quit drinking before for longer periods of time?
I've been buying beer and wine every time I'm at the supermarket "just in case" because I go so seldom now (every 8-10 days v every other day like I used to) that every trip seems like I need to stock up on everything because who knows what's going to happen with the plague and I may have to isolate at home.
The problem is that 2 of the 3 supermarkets I frequent sell beer, wine, and cider (only some supermarkets here sell alcohol and none sell liquour). I may just stop going to those for the time being.
I used to buy a bottle of wine at a supermarket like twice a year and now it's been every trip.
I'm planning on finally leaving my post code next weekend to go hiking outside of the city so I'm going to not buy any booze this week and get to bed early and get my day on Saturday started at sunrise (as opposed to the going to bed at sunrise that I've been doing a lot of in the last two months).
Have you quit drinking before for longer periods of time?
Xorkoth
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I quit drinking when I was 19 until I was 21. I also quit drinking when I was really deep into opiates for like 5 years I would say, about age 25 to 30. Then after I got off opiates I just drank from time to time, but in the past couple of years alcohol has been an increasing thing in my life, I had a really difficult and traumatic last couple of years with my dad dying a slow, agonizing death and my ex-wife pulling me into a nasty divorce. I got a DUI the night I found out she was going to try to take half my worth after I paid for her health care for years after we split and she led me on saying she didn't want anything. I guess alcohol has caused me more problems lately than it ever has before. It's so ubiquitous, it's really easy to sink into because it's legally available and everywhere, and yeah most of my friends drink plenty too.
SunriseChampion
Bluelighter
That's impressive. I've only ever stopped for 1-3 months at a time. I've done that maybe four or five times now in the last 15 years.
Did you find it easy to go 2 years without? I think when you stopped for five years during opiate use it was probably easy because you were busy with the opiates.
Kind of how I started drinking like mad for a bit after I quit meth and how a lot of my friends have been able to quit smoking darts because they replaced it with smoking weed. Do you think that was the case for you?
Yeah, I think what you went through would have driven me to drink as well.
8 years ago, after a really shitty relationship with a seriously abusive narcissist finally blew up in my face is when I almost killed myself drinking in Cuba so I've been there myself. I was like suffering PTSD from emotional trauma and drinking to cope. It was terrible because of course the drinking just made me feel even worse.
Did you find it easy to go 2 years without? I think when you stopped for five years during opiate use it was probably easy because you were busy with the opiates.
Kind of how I started drinking like mad for a bit after I quit meth and how a lot of my friends have been able to quit smoking darts because they replaced it with smoking weed. Do you think that was the case for you?
Yeah, I think what you went through would have driven me to drink as well.
8 years ago, after a really shitty relationship with a seriously abusive narcissist finally blew up in my face is when I almost killed myself drinking in Cuba so I've been there myself. I was like suffering PTSD from emotional trauma and drinking to cope. It was terrible because of course the drinking just made me feel even worse.
SunriseChampion
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Super curious to know what your issue with caffeine is, if you don't mind sharing.
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