swilow
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^I'm nnot sure I've hd that, 'ows it compare to 4-Aco-DMT?
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Seyer
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Im fascinated by 4-AcO-DMT. Ive never tried a tryptamine and would really love for it to be my first one. Either 4-AcO-DMT or 4-HO-MET.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyPRgcb_waE
you never done shrooms?
shrooms means you had a tryptamine.
i wanna try 4Aco tho too...
i'm quite high on cannabinoids atm.
of the synthetic variety.
you never done shrooms?
shrooms means you had a tryptamine.
i wanna try 4Aco tho too...
i'm quite high on cannabinoids atm.
of the synthetic variety.
Seyer
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Nope, never shroomed.
As am I. Got some today
As am I. Got some today
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Never had 4-AcO-DMT, so I can't compare. Yeah, I know, I'm trying my RC tryptamines in a weird order. :D I've also finally got some DPT in my possession too, which might be the next one on my list.
Thorns Have Roses
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Thank you for allaying my worries, and the kind words. It's always helpful to hear nice things, 'specially when you never hear anything of the sort IRL (well, besides a few backhanded compliments).
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swilow
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Oh yeah, DPT is really really intense. I would struggle to take it now, for one i cannot snort anything but k and two, DPT is utterly crazy. I'm looking forward to hearing what you think TAC...
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^ Hey Special K.
Just got around to watching this.
WOW.
Blew my fuckin' mind too, and I was sober! 
At first, when Haramein was relating the Mexican pyramids, the solar system, and the structure of space-time, I was almost sure that this guy was a complete loon. But it was only after he began talking about his observations of very complex three-dimensional geometrical structures that I realized the man actually knew what he was talking about.
There were so many incredibly exciting ideas presented in that lecture... I guess I won't spoil them for everyone else, but one of the most striking for myself was the suggestion that nothing is ever created or destroyed, and that perhaps even the big bang was simply the beginning of a single period in a never-ending cycle. I found this very interesting, because of the strong message I got on one particularly eventful DMT trip, which went along the lines of, "I ['I' here refers to the universe, as I identified with the sum totality of existence] will never cease to exist. In some unfathomable way, I am truly immortal. I will go through incomprehensibly drastic and radical changes, but I will still exist in some form or another for eternity." It was as clear as daylight to me at the time, and I believed it probably more strongly than I've ever believed anything before.
Also, I just realized that the link you gave was the second part of a three-part series! I'm going to have to set aside some time to watch the first and third parts as well.
Just got around to watching this.
WOW.
Blew my fuckin' mind too, and I was sober! At first, when Haramein was relating the Mexican pyramids, the solar system, and the structure of space-time, I was almost sure that this guy was a complete loon. But it was only after he began talking about his observations of very complex three-dimensional geometrical structures that I realized the man actually knew what he was talking about.
There were so many incredibly exciting ideas presented in that lecture... I guess I won't spoil them for everyone else, but one of the most striking for myself was the suggestion that nothing is ever created or destroyed, and that perhaps even the big bang was simply the beginning of a single period in a never-ending cycle. I found this very interesting, because of the strong message I got on one particularly eventful DMT trip, which went along the lines of, "I ['I' here refers to the universe, as I identified with the sum totality of existence] will never cease to exist. In some unfathomable way, I am truly immortal. I will go through incomprehensibly drastic and radical changes, but I will still exist in some form or another for eternity." It was as clear as daylight to me at the time, and I believed it probably more strongly than I've ever believed anything before.
Also, I just realized that the link you gave was the second part of a three-part series! I'm going to have to set aside some time to watch the first and third parts as well.
I took 100mg DXM tonight, for the first time in years. The last time I was taking it as a weed replacement, and stupidly mixed a bunch of syrups which had additives like psuedoephedrine in them. This time is my first time since trying other dissociatives that I've tried DXM, and although it's only a threshold dose it's still pretty interesting. It's like having really sharp glasses to see into one's own thought patterns. It's odd though, because I expect the other features of psychedelics along with music appreciation and euphoria, and increased visuals with the music peaking. It's like it's all there, but missing something... Something crucial you know, like all the lights are on but nobody's home. It definitely feels like a serious drug though, I find it hard to believe that something on the level of mushrooms and ketamine can be bought from the drug store for $5-10 dollars or so per trip. Very interesting, will definitely be exploring the other plateaus soon enough, such a fascinating mindstate. I wonder why John C. Lilly ignored DXM and instead focused on K and PCP, the much more psychologically powerful, intoxicating, and profoundly "other" dissociatives. DXM feels more like a friend, with a few interesting tricks up his/her sleeve
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I'm not a big fan of DXM but I only tried the syrup, I would give the powder a go just to see as I assume it would carry less side effects, particularly the nausea. I don't think I dosed high enough either as over here we only have one bottle you can buy, no gel-caps etc and I recall a friend taking two for a real proper effect. I much prefer ketamine and have skipped it since, but the drought here has gotten so bad I might actually try it. Anyone recommend it or should I just stick to my k?
PepperSocks
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Hey all, hope you guys had a good christmas/new year.
Look what I got! Look What I got! :D
Look what I got! Look What I got! :D
Jesusgreen
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Just got back from England, I haven't slept or eaten much though so I'm going to do both now and get back on tomorrow. The reason I posted here rather than doing that already though is that I wanted to share a bit about my trip(s).
Me and the friend I was staying with decided to purchase some drugs for the trip. We got 3.5g of weed, 1g of AM-2201 + AM-694 incense, 500mg 6-APB, 250mg aMT and he already had 5g of MXE, some of which he shared with me. He also just got some DMT but a little too late but I believe I'll still get some
We were smoking weed, and the blend, drinking, and enjoying MXE, for the first day. Then the next day we decided to try the aMT. We each took 50mg, then went to the shop. On the way back my friend started puking, this was the nausea.. but I wasn't really getting any yet. Sure enough though once we got home I threw up too, and he did again, but after the purge we both felt a ton better, and the visuals began to kick in.
Edges blurred a little, things started to shift and morph.. But, as this isn't a trip report (I will write one later!) I'm going to cut to the chase. Suddenly we had this deep empathy for all human beings and all of nature, in fact, all of everything. We could notice patterns and connections easier, and we seemed to understand oh so much more. During the trip, my friend - who was undergoing his first ever psychedelic experience, pretty much became my shaman, discussed my social anxiety with me, and pretty much answered all the big problems with my life.
This left me feeling great, with a nice afterglow, and.. anxiety free! :D
Yep, I finally did it. Beat my anxiety. Thank you aMT, and Joe :D
We also took 150mg + a 100mg redose of 6-APB each on New Years Eve, the comedown was very lethargic and depressing for me, not so bad for him - but waking up the next day we felt better, and took aMT again, this time focusing the trip on him, with me taking the role of the "shaman" and guiding him through some of his problems.
I thought the week would just be a long party but it was much more than that.
Edit: Also, playing guitar on aMT is the shit. I went from not being able to play a single chord to playing my own music on top of other songs within like 10 minutes with my friend's help
Me and the friend I was staying with decided to purchase some drugs for the trip. We got 3.5g of weed, 1g of AM-2201 + AM-694 incense, 500mg 6-APB, 250mg aMT and he already had 5g of MXE, some of which he shared with me. He also just got some DMT but a little too late but I believe I'll still get some
We were smoking weed, and the blend, drinking, and enjoying MXE, for the first day. Then the next day we decided to try the aMT. We each took 50mg, then went to the shop. On the way back my friend started puking, this was the nausea.. but I wasn't really getting any yet. Sure enough though once we got home I threw up too, and he did again, but after the purge we both felt a ton better, and the visuals began to kick in.
Edges blurred a little, things started to shift and morph.. But, as this isn't a trip report (I will write one later!) I'm going to cut to the chase. Suddenly we had this deep empathy for all human beings and all of nature, in fact, all of everything. We could notice patterns and connections easier, and we seemed to understand oh so much more. During the trip, my friend - who was undergoing his first ever psychedelic experience, pretty much became my shaman, discussed my social anxiety with me, and pretty much answered all the big problems with my life.
This left me feeling great, with a nice afterglow, and.. anxiety free! :D
Yep, I finally did it. Beat my anxiety. Thank you aMT, and Joe :D
We also took 150mg + a 100mg redose of 6-APB each on New Years Eve, the comedown was very lethargic and depressing for me, not so bad for him - but waking up the next day we felt better, and took aMT again, this time focusing the trip on him, with me taking the role of the "shaman" and guiding him through some of his problems.
I thought the week would just be a long party but it was much more than that.
Edit: Also, playing guitar on aMT is the shit. I went from not being able to play a single chord to playing my own music on top of other songs within like 10 minutes with my friend's help
i dont think the rc tag should put people off... or rather, perhaps it should, but then more substances should be wearing it (why sint 2cb a rc?)...
aMT could be just as much a classic psychedelic as mdma, its got the age and science behind it if thats the case... its at least as potent at showing people the depths of their mind as lsd... and can be as fun as mdma.
the 2c family ranges quite a bit in effects, so a bad experience on 2ce means nothing about possible trips with 2cb or 2cd... but then its no guarrantee of a good amt trip either....
i think its a case of just having to try it out yourself and forming an opinion....
jesus! welcome back! home to hear more of your stories from the uk man.
also, 50 mg amt for a first psychedelic trip? and HE was the guide?
also interesting to not ou had a depressing comedown form 6apb, you seemed so thrilled last time around with it...
aMT could be just as much a classic psychedelic as mdma, its got the age and science behind it if thats the case... its at least as potent at showing people the depths of their mind as lsd... and can be as fun as mdma.
the 2c family ranges quite a bit in effects, so a bad experience on 2ce means nothing about possible trips with 2cb or 2cd... but then its no guarrantee of a good amt trip either....
i think its a case of just having to try it out yourself and forming an opinion....
jesus! welcome back! home to hear more of your stories from the uk man.
also, 50 mg amt for a first psychedelic trip? and HE was the guide?
also interesting to not ou had a depressing comedown form 6apb, you seemed so thrilled last time around with it...
Jesusgreen
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Well regarding the 6-APB comedown, I definitely overdid the dose that time. 150mg + 100mg redose before the first dose even fully kicked in. Remember how strong I found 150mg? Enough said. I didn't feel depressed the day after, just until I got a good night's sleep, but I feel quite spacey with some vertigo today. Not sure if it's the 6-APB, if the one month rule should apply to aMT too, if it's the lack of food.. or all of the above.
Well, regarding the aMT we were both guides somewhat. I knew a lot about it, told him to expect nausea, and to throw up if he felt the need - in the end we both did and felt better. I described some of the visuals I'd read about, though we expected it to be much less visual than it was (seeing moving fractals in his rug for example) - once it really started peaking though, we were talking, and suddenly it shifted to talking about me and my family, and my anxiety - from then on he took control and gave me 16 hours of advice, with a few key points that broke me out of my anxiety.
The next trip I acted as a guide for him and did a similar thing, helping him with some of his own problems. I feel the empathy from aMT was much more "spiritual" and "emotional" than from 6-APB, it was very deep and helped us really resolve some life-long issues - whereas the 6-APB just made us have a (very good!) messy time. I also noticed on aMT we appreciated all good music, and making music was very easy - in fact, when we stopped making music, static sounds like his amp, the fire, and the heater, all started to play tunes for us to play along to. On 6-APB though we couldn't really enjoy anything other than electronic music, and playing music was very hard.
PS sorry for the lack of proper paragraphs, my brain is still fuzzy. I think I'm going to eat and nap, see if that helps.
Well, regarding the aMT we were both guides somewhat. I knew a lot about it, told him to expect nausea, and to throw up if he felt the need - in the end we both did and felt better. I described some of the visuals I'd read about, though we expected it to be much less visual than it was (seeing moving fractals in his rug for example) - once it really started peaking though, we were talking, and suddenly it shifted to talking about me and my family, and my anxiety - from then on he took control and gave me 16 hours of advice, with a few key points that broke me out of my anxiety.
The next trip I acted as a guide for him and did a similar thing, helping him with some of his own problems. I feel the empathy from aMT was much more "spiritual" and "emotional" than from 6-APB, it was very deep and helped us really resolve some life-long issues - whereas the 6-APB just made us have a (very good!) messy time. I also noticed on aMT we appreciated all good music, and making music was very easy - in fact, when we stopped making music, static sounds like his amp, the fire, and the heater, all started to play tunes for us to play along to. On 6-APB though we couldn't really enjoy anything other than electronic music, and playing music was very hard.
PS sorry for the lack of proper paragraphs, my brain is still fuzzy. I think I'm going to eat and nap, see if that helps.
SpecialK_
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Not sure why, but most of the RCs I've tried I've just found haven't been that good. I'd rather have had another drug in it's place if you get me? It either carried more side effects - 2c-e compared to LSD for example/mephedrone for MDMA or just didn't enjoy the effects in comparison to the illegal alternative - say MXE.
pharmakos
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once upon a time if you wanted to order some LSD-25 you would place a mail order through a catalogue
many of these chemical supply companies probably recognized and tailored to recreational drug users as well.
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perhaps one shouldnt think of RCs as alternatives, or chase a similar/identical experience to the illegal variant.
most people would agree there is a lot more to a 2c experience than it just trying to impersonate acid... and while some rc are indeed not quite there yet, there are a very good many ones too. for instance, the synthetic tryptamines that a lot forget. i for one love 4aco mipt, and many enjoy 5meo mipt...
most people would agree there is a lot more to a 2c experience than it just trying to impersonate acid... and while some rc are indeed not quite there yet, there are a very good many ones too. for instance, the synthetic tryptamines that a lot forget. i for one love 4aco mipt, and many enjoy 5meo mipt...
SpecialK_
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once upon a time if you wanted to order some LSD-25 you would place a mail order through a catalogue
See my above post.
But even so, I think RCs are completely different due to modernisation and technology in comparison to buying acid when it was legal, especially with the amount of labs now who will literally make any chemical under the sun should you have the money. Although for those out there who truly believe in the likes of the nBOME chemicals, get them now while they are Sandoz quality, not cut.
I think it's impossible to take a drug and not compare it to other drug experiences and from my own experience personally I've found the more traditional drugs have been much tailored to my needs and easier on the head than research chemicals, that while provide in some cases good effects of their own seem to carry a lot more side effects. I think people are misinterpretated what I'm saying, my experiences with traditional drugs has been much more positive than my experiences than with those that have been branded as Research Chemicals. But then again this could be entirely down to my choice of research chemicals. There just seems to be a lot of 'shit' to sift through to get to the good ones, but for some that's all part of the fun I guess, just not for me.
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