Yeah the situation with 6-APB was a bit weird when it came out. I had absolutely zero interesting in trying it with all the fake vendor posts, the horrible reports etc when it came out. Even now over a year later, after reading many great reports, I was pretty convinced I was going to be really disappointed. I'm glad I was wrong :D YMMV though.
The way it came out turned me right off it from the start. Only a few UK front page "6-apb" google vendors holding exclusivity on their Benzo Fury pellets at outrageous prices for what RC's normally go for. I did the math at the time and their prices were dead even with street E pill prices (here anyways, $10 a pop). For someone used to buying powder RC's at a rate of ~$1 a dose, that wasn't going to happen especially with the "Benzo Fury" marketing campaign.
It's weird how my emotions are today. It's not a high, it's not a depression either, but the minute something upsets me I'm like a baby bawling my eyes out - the minute I see something funny or happy I'm grinning and laughing, overwhelmed with happiness. So very weird. I guess everyone's probably heard this all before from a million people after their first MDMA/MDA/6-APB/5-APB/etc experience though haha.
Not just the first experience. It continues, the week after sucks. That's the limiting factor with MDxx. I find even the 'once a month' rule doesn't hold anymore. The hangover just sucks too much, for me anyways now it's a once a year type thing, maybe 6 months, one in the winter, one in the summer.
Its a shame methylone is illegal it was probably the best of them all.
Ack, That never stopped people from producing it in a country where it was legal and sending it where it wasn't
But i probably will go with the 2cb as im a lot more familiar with it and i know that i enjoy it.
The only other time i took 4-fa it was a bit underwhelming but i was trying a low end dose just to test it out.
Hope you had a good night dude
As for the code: I rarely ever nod on opies but I can appreciate moderate doses on tough days. I guess in a similar way I sometimes appreciate phenibut for helping tough stuff to just smoothen out.
Mild opiates are good like that. They smooth you out without impeding your ability to function.
For years now I have been hypervigilant. My therapist and I really agree that it is one of the consequences of serious psychedelic use. Those difficult experiences, even if they were not a majority... they can have very real impact on your limbic system i.e. your primal emotive brain circuit that also enables fight or flight. I have tripped through so many fucked up things that I am basically permanently on alert and it wears me out. It also is a logical explanation for relying on GABAergic drugs to manage it.
I will be interested to hear if medication I will get can take care of this 'limbic' issue. It is a major pillar in my problems. Another one is just structured eating and sleeping. I have some ideas of my own and experimented a week with Neurontin but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Interesting thoughts. I have the same thing. I walk around with laser eyes always ready.. for something. Psychedelics have fostered that I think. And like you, manage it with GABAergics.
Don't kid yourself, caffeine is a powerful drug. I am quite sensitive to it as well, I used to drink a lot of coffee and it gave me really bad anxiety -- I actually started using benzos probably as a result of that. It sucks because well over a year after stopping benzos, I still have some withdrawal symptoms.. I don't know why I didn't possess the insight to realize it was probably just the caffeine exacerbating a manageable anxiety problem to unmanageable levels... I guess just because everyone in my family drinks a pot or two of coffee per day without any problems.
I always 100mg of caffeine in the morning, but if I take another one around noon, I get edgy and bug-eye as hell. I find caffeine tablets (how I usually use caffeine) are much smoother than coffee. Tea is okay too, but coffee is bad. I was at my sister's one day and needed an upper of some sort so I had a cup of coffee. I felt so sketched out, nervous, and physically felt like a stimulant overdose. It was messed up. I just take caffeine tablets normally. They're 100mg tabs which I sometimes split. They're good to get one going in the morning without causing too much anxiety.
Because one of the biggest joys of taking drugs is getting to explore and see how the experience is similar to or different than similar chems.
Yessir, that, and finding substitutes that tip-toe around a law, or allow you to save your favored one for special occasions. Like taking X-cathinone because you want to save your MDMA experience for some other time.
A fairly large portion of the $11,000 has been spent on the hotel, but a bit went a week ago on a new laptop and a mackie audio interface...
Oh won't somebody think of the starving children??? Next time you see one of those TV pledge drives you better have tears gushing and money pouring into their accounts.
Darned lucky rich kids!
I think I'm glad I don't have that kind of money, given my compulsiveness it'd either all be gone in a week - I'd be in hospital pretty quick, or both. 8(
I gotta say I am lucky, I'll never really have to worry about money, and if it weren't for my parents I sure as shit wouldn't be in university right now.
I also gotta say though, other than education money, my parents never spoiled me. Anything I own I payed for with money I made while working. And anything I own is old and of poor quality, but functional. Lol, my two recreational vehicles are older than I am and I've taken them apart and put back together again more than I can count.
Obviously if I didn't have parents paying for education, I wouldn't have any toys because I'd have to use that money for education. Again with the degradation of youth; It's the rich kids who are given brand new 'everything' and never have to pay for anything or change their own light bulbs let alone doing an oil change in -20 weather that piss me off.
Nope only gonna drink some beers tonight at a birthday and then going out together in the city. Took supplements today though: piracetam, low dose phenibut, ALCAR. But I would not call those drugs.
I was about to make a big nootropic order but I'm glad I didn't. I was on piracetam for a bit, but I find after the first 3-4 days it just degenerates into tension. At first is all clarity and smoothness, but then something happens where it goes bad. And yeah, I supplemented with choline. I used centrophenoxine and lecithin (liberal amounts) but still went awry on me. It's done that more than once. Weird, I can't take it on a regular basis.
There's so many supplements out there it's ridiculous. I hear lots about ALCAR and ALA, but never tried them and likely won't unless I see it on a shelf somewhere at a cheap price (ie. I'm not going to order any more nootropics; seems like a quagmire, waste of money).
Just go the news that MXE got banned here in Finland. I think it's the first country where it's banned. The next are Sweden, Norway and with a high probability Denmark. The Nordic countries are sadly notoriously fast to ban RC's and monitor them closely. I would be really pissed off otherwise but fortunately I'll manage quite a few years with my stack. We seem to go backwards here in the North compared to the rest of Europe. Everything has to be controlled and scheduled. Switzerland just decriminalized cannabis, I wouldn't be surprised if the penalties for possession would be made even stricter here.
That sucks. Can't say it's too surprising though. OTOH it just motivates creative development of different chemicals
When I was first getting into checking out MXE (only a year after it became available), I went to check the B&D and saw that it was on the
5th edition. Also, a useless source of information. I remember when I was a mod trying to keep threads tidy and shit. It's impossible. With the traffic we have, in order to keep the B&D a useful resevoir of information PD needs a mod force of 10+ with nothing better to do with their time.
B&D have more/less become social threads for those just getting into that particular substance, posting while high on it, etc. Not blaming mods here, it's just the way it is.
I'm hoping the BL Wiki takes off soon. I would love to devote my help to that if I had the time. Trying to find useful info in a B&D is like looking for a needle in a haystack. The posts in them also tend to be of the high dose variety by people abusing said substance and have huge tolerances. 20mg of MXE floored me. 10mg is a good buzz. Even Erowid's dosage table lists 20mg as the top of the 'thershold' column.
Skip the snuff tobacco and get Swedish snus! It's only allowed by the EU be sold in Sweden (and Denmark in it's loose form), and it's also sold in Norway as the EU ban doesn't affect them. It has also been introducted to other countries, so you can get in in some places in Australia and the US too. It's legal to import it and use it for your own use in Finland (and the rest of the EU), but it's not allowed to be sold here. The cigarette industries rather wants the profit and see people die from lung cancer. Sweden has the lowest rate of lung cancer among men in the world, due to over 1 million Swedish men using snus.
I got free snus in Florida (promo coupon from Marlboro), I like it but it was super mild, I then found out american snus contains extremely low nicotine because the companies don't want low amounts of snus to satisfy people's nicotine jones. I would love to try some real nordic snus.
Ah, week from hell is over. And so is this post. Phhhew
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