CatfishRivers
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Just roll with it man! Inner resistance is gonna stop the flow! It's like bad cologne, chases good luck and opportunities away!
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Just roll with it man! Inner resistance is gonna stop the flow! It's like bad cologne, chases good luck and opportunities away!
Dondante
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Good mornin' PD!
Embrace it. Get to sleep earlier. Take naps if you need to.
I had to wake up at 5:00 a.m. three days a week and 6:00 a.m. on Saturday for nearly all of high school and college thanks to a particularly grueling sport. Not something I would care to repeat, but I enjoyed life.
Embrace it. Get to sleep earlier. Take naps if you need to.
I had to wake up at 5:00 a.m. three days a week and 6:00 a.m. on Saturday for nearly all of high school and college thanks to a particularly grueling sport. Not something I would care to repeat, but I enjoyed life.
This.
Ben So Furry
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I'm sorry to hear you're down right now but hopefully all the hard work will be repaid when you graduate and are earning.
Hopefully this will go some way to help cheering you up, keep up the hard work, it'll be worth it.
CatfishRivers
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I graduated with 2 degrees and almost perfect marks and I can't get a job! lol college is a scam. I consider my diplomas laminated sheets of toilet paper to wipe the world's ass with. I did learn to take drugs at college tho, so that's one thing hahaha lol but honestly, most things I consider good in my life came as a result of going to college, so in all fairness, it wasn't completely bogus....just the part about getting a good job after going into all that debt. who knows, maybe it will all fall into place eventually. Here's hoping!
Ben So Furry
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^^^catfish: is it quite a specialised subject you studied or is it a national problem?, I had a couple of years unemployed and it's almost like catch 22. It's loads easier to get a job when you already have one. Also because many think of oneself as a scrounger or a layabout I started to fit the profile. Anyone who thinks anyone want's to actually scrape a dismal life on the measly benefits in the UK is wrong. I'd smash my head repeat-ably with a brick while cleaning public toilets with my tongue to earn before I would go on benefits again, trouble with that is I know first hand how difficult it is to get a job.
Catfish best of luck with the job hunting, hope it turns around for you soon.
Catfish best of luck with the job hunting, hope it turns around for you soon.
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Understand that college degrees are tools, not all-encompassing solutions. To some extent, they demonstrate a level of commitment and critical thinking to potential employers. In some cases, they also demonstrate proficiency or mastery of specialized skill sets and give employer's some level of confidence in making a hiring decision.
What they don't do is guarantee a job. That's on the graduate. If someone finds themselves a college graduate w/out a degree some things to look at are
-experience-How much experience outside of the c'room does one have? If the problem seems to be not being able to find a job to gain real-world experience, look for volunteer/internship opportunities. If the graduate says "I cannot make time for volunteering/interning," (s)he should evaluate his/her commitment to working for a living.
-interpersonal skills-There are loads of people with degrees and solid skill sets who lack the interpersonal skills/confidence to sell themselves in an interview. Most work environments require some collaborative efforts. If the personnel director perceives the candidate as meek or abrasive, (s)he may select somebody else for the position.
-Professional etiquette-Employers want somebody who will retain clients/customers and work well with coworkeers. The evaluation of the candidate's capabilities begins with first correspondence. Typically, that is in the form of an application, resume, or cover letter. Employers evaluate everything from penmanship to grammar. They look to see if the resume is generic or custom-tailored for that position. They look to see if the cover letter is addressed to the personnel director by name or a generic form letter. The small details make a difference. They say to the company "This person is resourceful enough to find the information and use it to their advantage." Otherwise, generic resumes and cover letters say "This person doesn't give special attention to projects. They are comfortable doing the bare minimum to appear productive."
-Location-Some job markets are worse than others. If the candidate is in a town of 4k people where the only sources or work are restaurants b/c the factory that used to employ everybody closed, then obviously, career opportunities migh tbe limited. In those cases, a job-seeker faces the choice to relocate or seek training in a higher demand field for the area. Most areas, regardless of size, need some type of healthcare or criminal justice professionals. Business concentrations like HR, mgmt, and marketing are fields that can be applied to a wide variety of industries.
I understand the frustration involved in job seeking and sometimes finding a job is easier said than done but those are some general tips that might help new and seasoned job seekers alike.
For those questioning the value of formal education, keep the following in mind:
What they don't do is guarantee a job. That's on the graduate. If someone finds themselves a college graduate w/out a degree some things to look at are
-experience-How much experience outside of the c'room does one have? If the problem seems to be not being able to find a job to gain real-world experience, look for volunteer/internship opportunities. If the graduate says "I cannot make time for volunteering/interning," (s)he should evaluate his/her commitment to working for a living.
-interpersonal skills-There are loads of people with degrees and solid skill sets who lack the interpersonal skills/confidence to sell themselves in an interview. Most work environments require some collaborative efforts. If the personnel director perceives the candidate as meek or abrasive, (s)he may select somebody else for the position.
-Professional etiquette-Employers want somebody who will retain clients/customers and work well with coworkeers. The evaluation of the candidate's capabilities begins with first correspondence. Typically, that is in the form of an application, resume, or cover letter. Employers evaluate everything from penmanship to grammar. They look to see if the resume is generic or custom-tailored for that position. They look to see if the cover letter is addressed to the personnel director by name or a generic form letter. The small details make a difference. They say to the company "This person is resourceful enough to find the information and use it to their advantage." Otherwise, generic resumes and cover letters say "This person doesn't give special attention to projects. They are comfortable doing the bare minimum to appear productive."
-Location-Some job markets are worse than others. If the candidate is in a town of 4k people where the only sources or work are restaurants b/c the factory that used to employ everybody closed, then obviously, career opportunities migh tbe limited. In those cases, a job-seeker faces the choice to relocate or seek training in a higher demand field for the area. Most areas, regardless of size, need some type of healthcare or criminal justice professionals. Business concentrations like HR, mgmt, and marketing are fields that can be applied to a wide variety of industries.
I understand the frustration involved in job seeking and sometimes finding a job is easier said than done but those are some general tips that might help new and seasoned job seekers alike.
For those questioning the value of formal education, keep the following in mind:
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CatfishRivers
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My resume is loaded with experience. I've been a behavioral health counselor and clinical manager, I've been a property manager, an accounts collections manager, and have smattering of odd jobs such as library circulation clerk, literary editor for a small arts publication, landscaper and amateur radio producer and writer. I've sent out so many resumes with specifically crafted cover letters it's sickening...I'd say by now I have sent many hundreds of resumes out, possibly nearing 1000 of them, with only 5 times being contacted back, but still not a single interview. I'm starting to wonder if I should remove some experience or my degrees from my resume. I think employers might be seeing me as too far from entry level to want to pay me, but too far also from being some top level employee worth any sort of decent pay. It's honestly been quite a headscratcher.
nearjat
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Haha thanks for the kind words and advice people. I wish I could just have some time aside to find my inner peace and then tackle this college thing. My brain is chaos right now so when I look at my weekly planner and see the stuff I have to do to my interpretation is often distorted...
I'm about to apply for new job after working at the same place for four years! I need more hours and a closer workplace (I don't have my license yet). I'm sure an 18 year old with 4 years of retail experience should be able to get a job pretty easily right?
I'm about to apply for new job after working at the same place for four years! I need more hours and a closer workplace (I don't have my license yet). I'm sure an 18 year old with 4 years of retail experience should be able to get a job pretty easily right?
psood0nym
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I've read it has very little to do with merit and everything to do with who you kind of know, that is, our number of weak social ties is much more highly correlated with getting a job than our degree of qualification. The reason is probably mostly because people hate drudging through resumes. It's so much easier to have an employee say to their boss "Hey, I know a guy who could fill position X." Then the hiring manager or whoever is like "Awesome, less work for me, fuck everyone else who bothered to apply and is, in fact, better qualified, yay!"
Network network network. It's a miserable way to get a job, and involves nagging people who don't really want to hear what your skill set is, going to events with other people whoring themselves out and feeling like shit about it just like you, and telling lots of strangers you're out of work in the meager hope they'll think of you later for a job you didn't really want that much in the first place, but it's the best way not to be impoverished. Sorry to be so cynical, but it's getting a job, and there's no way around the fact that it sucks.
In contrast to others, I find college is awesome, and if I had my way I'd stay in forever.
PepperSocks
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^ Get a doctrate and be a prof.
Personally though I find profs to be quite a weird and sometimes egotistical bunch and feel like staying in uni too long would turn me into that.
Personally though I find profs to be quite a weird and sometimes egotistical bunch and feel like staying in uni too long would turn me into that.
psood0nym
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Yep, that's what I'm doing. Oh, and we're egotistical because we are, in fact, better than everyone else. We have theorems that prove it, but philistines can't understand them.
solistus
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nearjat, my #1 piece of advice to you going into college is to pick a major that translates very directly to a qualification for a specific career path. Computer Science, any of the natural sciences, engineering, pre-med, etc. I graduated with a solid GPA from one of the best Poli Sci programs in the nation, and now I'm struggling to find work as a friggin' cashier or something. I'm gonna have to go to law school and go muuuuch deeper into debt before my college career becomes a meaningful job qualification.
Ben So Furry
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Male pornstars.
They are better because while you've been studying hard for years through difficult study they just fuck all day long and earn big money.
They are the clever ones.
nearjat
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Yeah I'm just getting my generals done right now. I plan on going into graphic design. I'm pretty sure I won't make shit for money though haha. Such a flooded market. I'd like to do something with psychopharmacology, like how medications help treat mental illness and stuff. But I just don't have the discipline for a field like that unfortunately.
So I will try to be happy and poor
Kudos on the graphic design, I really like that.
Would that be more web design i.e. programming or more focussed on the graphic part itself?
It's good to be back for a bit by the way!
Damn I connected my older 2nd gen US iPhone to my friends computer and it got bricked (locked) overnight.
I can't get it to work although I think I have been through just about the same problem before.
Can't get to my contacts and electronic agenda, I'm f*cked.
Actually I am thinking about getting a new phone that doesn't require itunes and hacking and tweaking like a retard.
Maybe the Google Nexus One, any ideas?
Would that be more web design i.e. programming or more focussed on the graphic part itself?
It's good to be back for a bit by the way!
Damn I connected my older 2nd gen US iPhone to my friends computer and it got bricked (locked) overnight.
I can't get it to work although I think I have been through just about the same problem before.
Can't get to my contacts and electronic agenda, I'm f*cked.
Actually I am thinking about getting a new phone that doesn't require itunes and hacking and tweaking like a retard.
Maybe the Google Nexus One, any ideas?
nearjat
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I'm into "digital art" mostly so I think the place that would apply most is like print design. T-shirts, advertisements. I've been using photoshop for like 6-7 years now so I'm decently experienced. I've been trying to get my current boss to let me do graphic design through his store, as most locations of this franchise offer that service. But for whatever reason he is resisting. It wouldn't even cost him much extra and he could easily make mad cash from that. (people ask us about it all the time). I'm not gonna miss that place haha.
As for phones, some of the android phones are pretty cool. The "Droid" is a nice one. I have the HTC Eris and while it does lots of cool stuff it doesn't have the power to handle it so it's extremely buggy, and the battery life is awful. It will actually die in my pocket just idling during a 8 hour work day.
As for phones, some of the android phones are pretty cool. The "Droid" is a nice one. I have the HTC Eris and while it does lots of cool stuff it doesn't have the power to handle it so it's extremely buggy, and the battery life is awful. It will actually die in my pocket just idling during a 8 hour work day.
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