PCP. Why?

[jamaica0535]

I Wonder how many more people out there drink, compared to he number of pcp users....

& I've never heard of a drunk cannablising his girlfriend y'know? i'm not anti any drug. But I can' stand assholes who paly off something dangerous.

Well considering that alcohol kills about 100 times as many people as every illegal drug combined. I think alcohol is still a "bigger" problem. Regardless of how many more people there are doing it, there isn't that much pcp around.

Never been offered it, never head of anyone that had it, maybe like a friend when he went to canada and some crazy Quebec people were like "Wanna smoke some Pe Ce Pe?" and he did and had some crazy adventure.

Life is inherently dangerous. But I worry a lot more about getting killed by a drunk driver than a crazy dude eating me because he had a psychological break on PCP. Hell i worry about a random drunk guy or strung out tweaker trying to cause hostility with me way more than crazy dude on pcp.

The fact that there is such an absurdly larger amount of people using alcohol and driving cars is all the more reason to view alcohol as a more significant problem.

Its like everyone getting all uppity when some kid dies at a rave from eating 5 kinds of beans and overheating. Might get a few deaths over the course of a year this way and everyone makes a fuss. A lot more teens were killed in car accidents, fishing, swimming, eating, falling dead randomly from cardiac arrest or stroke and pretty much every activity imaginable. But in any event where it wasnt caused by drugs we just sort of go about our day viewing it as a natural occurrence.

Some people by the very nature of how many people there are, are just god damned batshit crazy in their very nature. I wonder how many multitudes more international murders happened that year...

People kill people, whether drugs are involved or not. But I bet there are into the hundreds of times as many intentional murders than people going all crazy on the pcp and killing someone.

 

[treezy z]

alcohol makes the majority of people who overindulge into retards, look through your local police blotter and probably 75% of the people were drunk.

pcp will on freak occasions make people do dumb shit. people usually just listen to music or walk around and shit.

in all the times i've done pcp or other dissociatives i've only acted severely retarded (done stupid wreckless shit) when i added alcohol or another drug into the picture.

 

[!_MDMA_!]

if u did a lil research ud find tons of positive experiences. but i guess its easier to just ignore the fact that big lurch was strung out from an iv coke binge when he took the pcp

 

[adrian89987]

The Big Lurch cannibalism incident is part of a morbidly fascinating trend of public figures seeking "authenticity" by actually committing the heinous acts their dementedly cartoonish public persona is built on. For example: the string of Black Metal artist crimes starting in Norway and moving across Europe involving church burnings, animal torture, human torture, and murder. Big Lurch rapped about cannibalism and murder while sober, too. He, the black metal artists mentioned, and others like them are weak egos that get consumed by their public image. Then their stupid fans laud them for their authenticity and support sadist killing by purchasing the public figure's work.

Here's a good article that covers the phenomena.

That was a cool read, thanks

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Why would anyone do PCP?
rapper "big lurch" smoked the drug and then killed and ate his girlfriend. fuhreal.
Iv seen videos on cops of people on pcp naked punching through fences and wrestling with multiple cops.

I know it is common knowledge that you can OD and die the first time you try heroin, or cocaine can cause complications that may lead to death, but the effects of heroin and cocaine are desirable.

Aggression, strong hallucinations and paranoia don't sound like a good time.

Thats just what i assume about the drug.

Would like to hear about positive experiences from the drug.

curiosity never hurt anyone

PCP or what's called dust, wet, or "embalming fluid"-it's not really formaldehyde-does not make everyone go crazy, violent, or kill people even if the media says that it does this to everyone that uses it.

I grew up in an area that had A LOT of PCP and many people I knew had smoked it at least once or even a few times, there were a few dust heads.

Nobody got violent, went crazy, or beat anyone up.

They just were chill, found it VERY hard to move and said how the drug was fun in low/moderate doses and sometimes made them feel as though they were floating or sort of levitating a few inches above the ground while walking.

The people I knew who had in large doses said how the drug was not something they'd want to do again because it was very confusing.

I do know one guy who LOVED PCP but he loved dissociative drugs like high doses of DXM and Ketamine.

I never have smoked PCP but it's not a drug that interested me unlike Cannabis, booze, cocaine, prescription opiates, prescription amphetamines, LSD, and mushrooms.

As for why people do it, they do it because they can or they're curious about it, or in many cases with my friends they'd just chill with friends and someone would roll up a blunt of dusted herb and they'd all smoke it since they wanted to get dusted.

If you want to see how most people are while high on PCP watch the episode of the show Intervention where some woman smokes it.

 

[Garden Man]

PCP stories are blown way out of proportion. I knew a guy who used PCP quiet frequently without posing major problems and impairing his judgment to the extent where he was unable to function. He would smoke it at night and come into work several hours later and perform his job without any real problems.

The problem is there is a lot of misinformation about it. Everytime I hear someone stigmatize PCP they 99% of the time reference big lurch and cops. It gets old. That was ONE case for christ sakes. He smoked too much and killed a girl. Who knows what other factors went into play when this incident occured.

Alot of the times people take way too much because they're to stupid to dose properly. Other times they have pre-existing mental conditions, or combine it with other drugs or alcohol. This will fuck them up, because PCP is a very sensitize drug and shouldn't be smoked like it's another joint of piff, but with caution.
I can't fucking stand it when people say shit like "don't smoke pcp, you'll run into cars and kill people" they don't even know what in the fuck they're talking about. Half of em don't even know what PCP stands for, let alone know what is does. In that case it's just pure ignorance and bull shit. You're just waiting for them to reference the big lurch case to prove their point because billy two houses down told them about it or they read the wikipedia article.

The media is full of shit, and don't think for a second that the internet is somehow 'propaganda free'. Quiet the contrary. If Mrs. Jones from 3rd period tells you that Marijuana will always make you paranoid and enter psychosis, are you going to believer her knowing full well that isn't true? No, you're going to probably resent her for spewing off ignorance about something she doesn't even know about - so why would it be any different with regards to PCP?

Take everything you hear with a grain of salt, and listen to both sides of the argument. Educate yourselves properly.
There, the rant is done.

 

[IamMe90]

Let's not be TOO enthusiastic though - the stories are indeed exaggerations but i think it's fact that PCP is pretty damn toxic with any kind of regular use (or least heavy use) and overdoses can result in some VERY unpleasant effects that can persist for a long time. it does have a sort of shitty risk benefit analysis if you aren't CAREFUL - but most people here are.

 

[Love In Vein]

Let's not be TOO enthusiastic though - the stories are indeed exaggerations but i think it's fact that PCP is pretty damn toxic with any kind of regular use (or least heavy use) and overdoses can result in some VERY unpleasant effects that can persist for a long time. it does have a sort of shitty risk benefit analysis if you aren't CAREFUL - but most people here are.

I don't think anyone is trying to put it in a good light or be too enthusiastic. Just dispel overblown rumors/distortions/lies.

As far as I am going and what I'm reading, nobody is saying it's a great substance or that long term abuse of it doesn't cause problems (I've been to a few cities where people smoked it regularly and there is no doubt regular use causes problems). It's just real experiences versus the horror stories you hear about all the time.

It's a lot like LSD. I've never wanted to go and murder a family like the Manson followers did or jump out of a building thinking I could fly or the other ridiculous stories you hear about it. I've known a few people who have had psychotic episodes on it, but they're few and far between. And of course, PCP is more likely to cause serious issues and probably at a much higher percentage, but you get the idea.

But definitely you are correct. It's definitely something one needs to be careful about when using. It's not a drug to be taken lightly because of the state you can potentially be pushed into.

 

[aleyna]

i went to rehab with a gentleman that rather enjoyed pcp. he had quite a psychological dependency on it. that said, different folks, different strokes. the way he described it was not the sort of hyper violent crazy trip we've all probably heard of. i'm sure like any sort of chemical, it just vibes with some peoples' certain brand of nuerochemistry and personal preferences. he described his experiences with the drug as more shamanic than just unhinged craziness... that said, my sister's cousin's aunt's boyfriend's cat while a big fan of ketamine, just does not like dxm and can't fathom the thought of taking PCP.

 

[whoseanb]

PCP was fun, and I did not have any desire to kill or eat people.

There was a UFC fighter who also killed his friend and ate him from MUSHROOMS!


Eeek...

Look you can't attribute the fucked up actions of some people on drugs to the drug itself.

Being a huge fan of MMA, the guy was an MMA fighter. He didn't fight for the UFC organization. MMA (mixed martial arts) is a sport. UFC (ultimate fighting championships) is an organization.

This dumb ass who ate his friends heart fought in some shitty organization not named UFC.

 

[swimerfish]

ive done pcp

it was scary as shit when id walk timein would cut up like ud be in the bath room then in youre room then outside then in bed then on couch within seconds and not know how you got theyre i was tripping to i had it on a blunt and my body had a shocking feeling it was anoying i hated it but every one has theyre own opinion