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PCP: super strength? compared to MDMA? Proprioception?

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I am stronger on MDMA. I have a lot more dexterity and flexibility. Typically I am unable to do something like stand on one foot, but on MDMA my center of balance is much better, my bodily ability is completely different. I have never taken it at parties, but I can definitely see why people use it for dancing.

MDMA is the most dramatic improvement of proprioception I have ever experienced. It makes me feel like being clumsy is only a temporary condition that can be blamed on brain chemistry. I very much want to find more options. Thus my interest in PCP.

I have been doing MXE, and once combined with Armodafinil. I liked this combination, it seemed to improve flexibility & balance, albeit mildly compared to MDMA.

So, how about PCP? Flexibility, super strength, etc?

I have read that the super strength is attributed to PCP's pain reliving properties. Once, I was on MDMA and stubbed my toe. I do this a lot. I felt less pain when stubbing my toe on MDMA, but I haven't read MDMA is particularly known as a pain killer.

Even if I don't feel super strong, it seems like something more potent and active than MXE would be fun.
 
Try Tae Kwan Do.

If, after several years of training, that fails, eat a few Somas and Flexerils.


Serious answer: Drugs don't improve your balance. But some of them make you more aware of your balance.
 
It seems likely that the impression that PCP users have of possessing super "strength" is down to the mania that can be induced by the drug.
 
No, i don't think anyone gets any super strength from PCP - it's pretty much exactly the same as ketamine. The reason you get the "super strength" stories is because it's such a rare drug that no-one can tell you it's bullshit. They had exactly the same story for marijauna, heroin and LSD - they all gave you "super strength" and let you "fight 10 cops at once" too. The difference is they're more popular so everyone knows it's bullshit.

You should check out a BBC film called "Ecstasy and parkinsons" - shows a guy with parkinsons who can hardly walk, then shows him after dropping ecstasy and he's doing somersaults.
 
^ I saw that documentary! I was going to mention it in my post but I wasn't sure I remembered it correctly. It's pretty amazing, right?

I think you're right about the stories about PCP being media bullshit. The classic one is that guys on PCP have been strong enough to snap police handcuffs, which is ridiculous. However, I do think it is true to say that PCP can cause symptoms of schizophrenia such as delusions of grandeur that are much less common with ketamine use, and this does contribute to the idea that people feel stronger on PCP even though they're not.
 
Clench your arm really hard.

Hertz, doughnut?

The pain -- it stopped you from clenching harder, right?

If you take PCP, MXE, or even simply get drunk enough, it won't hurt. You will clench your arm harder, you will contract your muscles more forcefully. You will hesitate less when you try to punch through some guy's windshield, and you will try to follow through on the blow. But you're hurting yourself in the process.
 
atara said:
Clench your arm really hard.

Hertz, doughnut?

The pain -- it stopped you from clenching harder, right?

If you take PCP, MXE, or even simply get drunk enough, it won't hurt. You will clench your arm harder, you will contract your muscles more forcefully. You will hesitate less when you try to punch through some guy's windshield, and you will try to follow through on the blow. But you're hurting yourself in the process.
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The most logical answer that I'm not sure why hasn't been posted before.
 
The simplest way to explain PCP is being a zombie, you're not too bright but you keep on going. And you may be tripping.

I have also noted reduced pain on E/MDMA, mainly reduced pain from burns. I've also burned a few girls with cigarettes and they didn't feel it until the next day.
 
Reduced pain from MDMA may be in part due to norepinephrine release - which is known to cause analgesia even if it's mild. c.f. amphetamine as an opioid adjuvant, and tramadol's superior efficacy to, say, codeine as a painkiller.
 
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