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PCP - Retrospective - PCP Saved my life

The Drummer said:
The only effect I've ever seen PCP have on another person is to make them into a drooling, inarticulate moron for hours... I don't mean to come off in an insulting manner. This is a situation where I think we can put you in an "outlier" category, that 's all.
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drummer...i think the first part of your comment (drooling, inarticulate moron) could be related to many other drugs too (pot, opiates, n20, k, alchohol), even if the actual duration (days afterwards) of said drug doesn't apply to them...just because the body metabolizes a drug slower than others does not make it a 'worse' drug'....that is silly logic...is acid (9hours) 'bad' compared to dmt (10 minutes) even though they have comparably (humor me) similar effects?....additionally in regards to --->

"I don't mean to come off in an insulting manner. This is a situation where I think we can put you in an "outlier" category, that 's all. "

sorry, but even if it was not your intention, you are coming off in an insulting manner....not only because you obviously have done no research on PCP (otherwise you would know that these effects aren't so uncommon), but also because in no way should his experiences be considerd 'outlier' as you put it...but then again, that's getting back to the original disscusion about how the general publics impression of PCP has been shaped by the media...


this is your brain on drugs :D ...this is your brain on the media :p

any questions? %)

think :)
 
>>this is your brain on drugs ...this is your brain on the media

As I said, "the only effect I've ever SEEN"... you'll notice I didn't mention any media-craze reports of people's lungs getting torn out or running at the cops with a magazine full of hollow points in their chest... I'm basing my impression of PCP on the fact that it turns the people I've seen use it into drooling, inarticulate morons. I'm talking about not being able to finish a sentence properly, responding to questions that weren't asked, completely misunderstanding language or the present situation, wandering outside of their apartment with a PCP cigarette in their hand, tossing a tupperware container full of PCP-dipped herb around in front of their house in daylight talking to themselves...

I'll qualify this further. I do in fact believe that large doses of opiates tend to turn people into drooling inarticulate morons. Likewise with many people and alcohol. I don't consider someone stoned on marijuana to be such, for the most part I find people to be as lively articulate and intelligent as they are sober when stoned, if not a bit slower.

I've done enough research on PCP to know that it's something I'll never touch, and I've seen enough people ON PCP to make the reasoned, empirical observation that I have.
 
The Drummer said:
I'm talking about not being able to finish a sentence properly, responding to questions that weren't asked, completely misunderstanding language or the present situation, wandering...
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^^^^^Sounds like someone having a good time to me :) But I apologize if my tone came thru in a negative manner. That was not my intention. Sublties of expression can be hard to communicate over the internet. Granted there are many people that have adverse effects from a drug such as PCP. Especially since it is a dissasociative.

you said ->" I don't consider someone stoned on marijuana to be such, for the most part I find people to be as lively articulate and intelligent as they are sober when stoned, if not a bit slower. "

Well then you obviously hven't seen me stoned! :) I am truely the embodiment of that blibbering mass of blathering brain matter you mention. Which is why I don't smoke pot. It just goes to show that all drugs affect everyone differently. Peace.
 
I get that way on pot too. The worst drug/situation I've ever seen anyone on is party full of people on klonopin/alcohol. people falling into shit ever where. 0%short term memory (which lasted 2days). Everyone kept asking the same shit over and over or just babbling the same shit over and over. It was horrible
 
I just want to say that you are my hero for that Steve-O reference!!! :)

If you get that neck tattoo that he bailed on, you can have my first born child!

And if you don't know what I'm talking about, this is the craziest coincidence ever. But I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I am talking about, if you saw the same compromising video of a certain person that I did =D

--- G.
 
Everyone I know (that does drugs) likes PCP. Only online have I seen anyone say differently. IDK what it is... maybe people are taking too much. The drug definitely takes some getting used to before you dive into the higher doses, but lower doses have been universally enjoyable for everyone I know, and it goes well with alot of other drugs.
 
Piper methysticum said:
I've only got to try it once, and that was enough for me.
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Nothing more to say about pcp for me .
Ill maybe try it again because now im more older , and when i did pcp i was like 15 .
 
PCP was just wierd for me when I 1st started using it. Never anything psychedelic/mindblowing. Then it got better and better. Now it's one of the most psychedelic drugs I've taken and I've tried alot.
 
Just a few cents on PCP

I personally believe all of those 'urban myths' may not be so far fetched, but like LSD those who have phychological predisposition should avoid it. Consider this: Larme Price (sp?) killed a bunch of arab store owners in brooklyn and queens, in 2003 I think, and PCP played a role, on an interview his mom said when he smoked PCP he would get bed, like thinking the govenment had a tracking device in his hand and shit. Probably also frequency of usage factors in, like meth psychosis. I personally think powder PCP is enjoyable where as liquid stuff is crap, sometimes it has PCP and sometimes its embalming fluid (formaldahyde). This has been proven, with a search you verify that. I can enjoy the trip occasionally, I dont do it anymore but I have a bunch of times. Also, microdots are a good source of PCP often, the purple microdots of the 60's and 70's usually tested for only PCP but were usually marketed as mescaline. I can identify good dust at a 4-5mg dose as a fast acting hallucinagen, with heavy pallete rotation, esp on shadows. A funny mix for a obvious downer, it causes a strange adrenaline rush when it kicks in, with this heart sinking sensation as the visuals kick in. And the nystagmus is a give a way, its so fun to watch posters on your wall leap off the walls and rotate towards you, with trails and everything. Like most trips, it the type of think id be glad to have done a few times but not for regular use
 
^ from your Erowid link:

"it is entirely possible, even likely, that some people have smoked formaldehyde soaked cannabis or tobacco, thinking they were getting the same "Embalming Fluid" (PCP) that they had smoked before. "

he didn't say all liquid PCP is embalming fluid
well
actually he started to
then he said sometimes
relax
 
I never read this before, EROX. I don't think you're still here, but if you are, then let me say thank you for this enlightening and unique perspective on a hugely demonized drug. A lot of people, even people who are generally very open-minded, seem to blindly hate/fear PCP. It's just another drug, quite related to ketamine actually. Of course it can be used incorrectly, like any other drug at all. There are so many stories because it's very widespread, especially in urban areas and among low-income communities. Largely because of this association, it has become probably the most demonized drug in modern culture. I bet you can think of way, way more horror stories about alcohol than than you can about PCP. I'm not saying that alcohol is worse than PCP or that PCP is safer than alcohol, just that alcohol is more widespread than PCP. It's the same thing.

And to those individuals who (3 years ago) insulted the author of this report for liking PCP... come on, now. What does that accomplish other than feeding your silly little ego? That's a tactic that schoolchildren employ when they gang up together. It's unfortunate that some people seem unable to outgrow that behavior as they mature.
 
For all the enlightenment and godliness PCP brought ER0X, His "trip report" seemed to be a mangled piece of barely coherent fantasy.
 
The only person I knew who was a "certified dustfiend" finally gave it up after feeling compelled to drive his car through a store window and getting majorly busted.

Ironically he said he never liked it but kept doing it anyway. Go figure.
 
you do know there are no POSITIVE health effects to dust rite, it can make your brain, cinuses and other orrifices just randomely bleed,

if it makes u feel good its all mental, it is also real bad for your lungs


i think wet is like the best sexual stimulant ever tho, it makes me horny as hell but the dissociative qualitys just let me fuck forever and control it soo well, all the best sex ive ever had was when i was dusted fucking forever and the feeling is soo intense

ive smoked wet probably over 50-75 times now, never really regularly and i know this chick where i live now that smokes like 5 to 10 viles a day for years shes a little eccentric to say the least and not looking real healthy
 
Well I've never bled from dust so i'm not sure u know what ur talking about, the sex part is true and of course it's all mental, yer brain controls everything duhh....

And I have no clue why pcp is so demonized, i luv psychedelics and pcp is the most pychedelic drug i've tried, IMO anyone who bashes it probly never tried it. The worst drug i've seen is crack followed by alcohol then heroin and lastly meth. these drugs ruin lives,they make people act like sociopaths/psychos/assholes/retards, they also ruin the lives of innocent people who have nothing to do with the drug. I'm sure there are a few psycho people in the ghetto who are predisposed to sumthing which is why they freak out on dust, i mean u give these same same people 1 hit of lsd and watch them freakout 10x worse than a dust freakout
 
TheVehicle said:
Just a few cents on PCP

I personally think powder PCP is enjoyable where as liquid stuff is crap, sometimes it has PCP and sometimes its embalming fluid (formaldahyde).
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Actually, PCP is called embalming fluid in some circles, it's not that they think it IS embalming fluid, but that is another street name for it.

As far as the experience, I agree that PCP has similar mindstates that K and DXM produce. However, K and DXM have the wonderful quality of almost incapacitating you physically, so that you can't get up and run around exploring those scenes you are seeing. PCP seems to lack that safeguard, it leaves you physically able to get up and go out and move around like normal. I know that there are times on PCP where you just sit there, but there are numerous reports where people on PCP are out and actively engaging in activities that on K and DXM you are prohibited to move. PCP sounds like an entirely exhilarating experience, but I have always strayed away from it for the simple fact that I do not want to be running around in public thinking I'm in another plane of existence. I LOVE K-holes and DXM trips, so much so, that I call dissociatives my favorite class, but having a drug that gets me to those places and still leaving me able to get up and mingle in society doesn't strike me as being something that I could use without any fear of winding up in jail.
 
hmm... I've done all of those and i've never noticed pcp to be all that less immobilizing
 
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