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PCP + Ayahuasca - First Combination - My best trip

ER0X

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pcp+ayahuasca(my best trip)

I must say of all the many things I've done this trip has to be one of the best if not the best. I thought nothing could top candy flipping in a hole(acid+xtc+k), but I find the effects of ayahusca alone to be better than any candyflip and pcp is one of the most amazing redreational substances I have ever done so this combo seemed like it would have great potential, that was for damn sure.

I had cooked up a pot of mimosa+harmala tea. I was in a weird state. I was dusted but not at the same time. My vision looked as if I was really high but mentally I was sober, this was very very odd. I felt I needed something more to make up for the lack of mental effects from the dust blunt. After the tea was finished I poured about 1/2a mug full(probly 5g mimosa/5g harmala) and the other 1/2 with milk and chocolate syrup. I drank the whole thing in about 10-15min during which I was already begining to feel the effects. I find mixing this particular tea with chocolate milk to be the best way to drink it, I'm not sure why but I believe the milk coats the stomach and slows the absorbtion down just enough so that the tea wont kick yer ass and make you sick, but it's not full proof. I've also found adding coffee+cinnamin to cover up the flavor even more. I call this concoction the "Mimochachino"=D .

25min later I was having massive shroom like visuals. From then on it kept escalating to the most impressive visual show I have ever seen. Ayahusca is definatly a friend, an ally, and a teacher. But most of all it's just plain fuking amazing. I can't even imagine being able to have a bad trip of of it. It's the most smoothest, purist, peaceful and intense experience. I think it's something that most people should do atleast once in thier lives. The euphoria and empathy is so great but not like E, now that I have done this I feel like E is just a dirty, cheap, fake ass high. It's no surprise that not only is DMT found everywhere in nature but in the human brain aswell. It's like something that is meant to be experienced at some point. And If it's something that is experienced during death then death does not seem so scary.

Everywhere there are the most beautiful colors flying off everything, everything is flowing around. I had never done mescaline before but from what I've heard high dose experiences described as this seemed very similar. The body high was astounding. I had some Blumchen playing on the stereo which is german happy hardcore. Music had never sounded so good off anything. I had beatiful visions of hawaii during this but at the same time I felt my visions. This is I think due to pcp, it had a very similar feeling to many pcp experiences but the ayahuasca definatly put a whole new spin on things. If I had the money at the time I could probly have convinced someone to get me a plain ticket to hawaii or something. I also felt like if I could concentrate hard enough I could start an earthquake but opted not to do so. Also the place where I happened to be tripping was absolutely disgusting and I didnt much care for the people I was around but I was in such a nice head space and so mellowed out/tranquil that I completely didnt care at all. That right there says alot for a trip to me.

The trip went on from when I started at around 10:45pm and was still going strong at 9:30am I thought I might never come down, I didn't really care tho, even tho I knew I had resposibilities to fullfill I figured that I would eventually grow acustomed to the state and be able to semi function, I had tripped incedibly hard all this time but felt very relaxed. Then out of nowhere a quick BLAHHH, I guess Deep down I knew I had to comedown somehow and that this was the only way. I was amazed I still had that much tea in my stomach all this time. I still going strong but not as strong as before. I took what was either a nap or some time of meditation for a few hours and woke up still tripping really nice. Anthor 2 hours and I just had that wonderfull DMTesque afterglow but stronger which lasted the next 2 days. It was a high in itself. I was a complete peace loving tranquil hippy for the 3days from this one trip, very cool.

I had no nausea at any point, even when I puked believe it or not. This is also due to the PCP. It just makes you stronger in all ways. You can stomach anything. I've drinkin straight ayahuasca b4 and didnt think the taste was that bad. Also some cannibus helped too I'm sure. ;)
 
From then on it kept escalating to the most impressive visual show I have ever seen. Ayahusca is definatly a friend, an ally, and a teacher. But most of all it's just plain fuking amazing. I can't even imagine being able to have a bad trip of of it. It's the most smoothest, purist, peaceful and intense experience. I think it's something that most people should do atleast once in thier lives.


This is awesome.. makes me want some ayahuasca....
its good you liked being hippied-out the next few days
 
Thanks for telling some low-level experimentalist to mix PCP with Ayahuasca. Very responsible, let me tell you.

I would just like to note that PCP is very dangerous on its own, let alone in combination with anything. I do not recommend that anyone try this, especially since I haven't read anything about PCP/MAOI interactions. This situation could have turned deadly.

Furthermore, that is the most ridiculous thing that I have ever heard! What on earth drove you to take PCP with a HOLY brew such as Ayahuasca?!
 
You are welcome to your opinions but this happens to be a good combo in my OPINION. They are both my top 2 favorite highs so naturally they would go good together in(once again) my opinion. I never told anyone to do this altho someone reading may be tempted to do so but I was just telling it like it is. If you are experienced with PCP then I really dont think there's much to worry about. Atleast I wasn't tossing so wierd random research chemical in the mix. In my opinion that would be worse than dust. And yes I see they are both from 2 different worlds dust being a negatively viewed chemical and ayahuasca being the purist natural high but I have done each many times on thier own but they do have a very impressive synergy. IN MY OPINION.
 
Mixing a research chemical with Ayahuasca and mixing PCP with ayahuasca are not two different decisions, each of those come from the same bad decision, i.e. mixing MAO inhibitors with strong chemical drugs in combinations that have not been tested before. Just because ayahuasca doesn't kill you and PCP doesn't kill you, and mixing them DIDn't kill you, well that doesn't make it a good decision, or any better of a decision than it would have been if you had experienced a really horrible reaction... Even though you felt great the whole time I promise you that was a tightrope you were walkin...

And it's not a good idea to assume PCP is safer than all other chemical drugs based on your personal experience with it... this is the same logical fallacy i've heard every user of PCP that i've ever met use... it's mentally destructive even if you don't like to think it is, I don't think you should mix it with ayahuasca.
 
I'm not saying its safer just that I'm more accustomed to it. It agrees with me very well. I've only had negative reactions from it when abusing it. But I assume this would be true with anything other than weed. PCP has been around for a long time and I haven't read anything about a sever reaction when mixing it with an maoi. PCP has been tested alot more than most research chems but yes there can be strong negative reactions to it with other people so yes there should much caution with it.
 
That was a really great trip report...very unique....yes indeed pcp and aya are two different worlds...but when worlds collide...ssshazamm!...and this combo isn't all that different from a dmt(dpt)/ketamine combo, ect...hell even a hit of n2o on lsd would be mixing a dissassociative with a 'tryptamine'...not taking for granted the fact that mao's demand respect and caution of course...but either way, i really liked the report...very interesting indeed...
 
yes, very interesting, and i wish people would stop flaming erox for his choice to consume PCP along with ayahuasca. personally, i don't have any interest in doing PCP, but i'm not about to get all high-up-on-the-altar and bitch somebody out for deciding to mix these chemicals together. more power to you, erox. there has to be some innovators in here...
 
That is one of the more interesting combinations I've heard about. I am in the minority of people who love PCP (in moderation of course, high doses or binges can get ugly), and I can imagine that it would go well with DMT (it certainly goes well with many other tryptamines) if your up for an intense experience. I can't find any information contraindicating concurrent use of PCP and MAOI's.

Sounds intriguing, but the body load might be too much for me. I've done ayahuasca once (psychotria + B. Caapi) and while it was a beautiful experience that I will value and remember for the rest of my life, the body load was bad enough to keep me from doing it again. I don't really get much of a body load from PCP anymore, but the comedowns are LONG and exhausting.
 
once again"in your opinion". I've never actually learned anything from it and I'm fine with that. Are you saying that in order to have a recreational type of experience I'm not allowed to use natural drugs, only man made chemicals? I don't care what anybody says, I love the shit and if one wants to mix it with something to take the experience to new heights then one should do what ever they feel like doing. These "plant spirits" didn't seem to offended by my actions seeing as how the effects of the plant stayed with me alot longer than they would have otherwise.
 
mnmguy said:
BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAHBLAH, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...
Man get off that shit. Not everyone shares your beliefs. I for one will tell you that if you beleive there are "plant spirits" guiding you, you need to go see a psychiatrist. The effects of ayahuasca come from CHEMICAL components of the plants, they are DRUGS, not spirits. It's very imposing of you to imply that ayahuasca should only be used in one way. Who are you to say that it's wrong or "disrespectful" to use PCP with ayahuasca. Who do you think you are??


You need to check yourself. And keep in mind that I am all about the use of psychedelics for personal growth and self exploration (etc...) and not just recreational use, but I acknowledge the fact that I have no right to tell others what is right or wrong. The next time you trip, you should seek the same realization. You are no authority.
 
Crimson Cloud said:

I acknowledge the fact that I have no right to tell others what is right or wrong.

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I for one will tell you that if you beleive there are "plant spirits" guiding you, you need to go see a psychiatrist.


really?
 
Cute. I said that because it is a FACT that the effects caused by the CHEMICAL constituents of ayahuasca are a result of 5HT-2 agonism and MAO inhibition. Spirits are not involved. I know some people will argue otherwise, but I'd need to see some PROOF to believe it.

I was also trying to give an example of how peoples beliefs differ, because what I said before "I for one will tell you that if you beleive there are "plant spirits" guiding you, you need to go see a psychiatrist." was "Not everyone shares your beliefs."

Please don't twist my words like that BD.

Sorry, but I've had it with people who like to tell people how certain drugs should and shouldn't be used.
 
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If I wanted to twist your words I wouldn't have made my point by exclusively using your own quotes.

Look, fact is you made a pretty harsh post towards mmmguy. I happen to agree with both of your points, so I'm not taking sides. But since harsh posts and flames generally don't belong in this forum (rather, it is a forum for telling stories and giving advice and props), I will occasionally ask people to justify the nature of their flame.

Sorry if you feel like you were singled out. I meant no offense; only for you to consider if you might be holding mmmguy to a double standard.

peace
 
Well, when you quoted me, you took my words out of context, that's twisting my words.:)

I also don't see how my post could be considered a flame. It wasn't intended to be nice, but I said nothing offensive.

And yeah, you could say that I'm holding mnmguy to a double standard because I'm telling him he's wrong for telling people they are wrong... but that's quite an infantile argument, and I think you get my point.
 
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Sure I just took it one step further by telling you that you are wrong for telling mmmguy he is wrong.

Obviously that makes me wrong too.

Can't we all just get a-wrong? =D
 
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