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Patting the dog?

I know it may not come under the same 'reward system' as petting. But I distinctly remember a couple years back at Winter Sound System/Melbourne Park, where sniffer dogs were given a treat each time they sniffed a person out, and I remember this because I myself was sniffed out..

To add. I was not carrying anything on me at the time, had not consumed anything 48hr+ prior to that, and had not come into any direct contact with any illicit substances well beforehand :\
 
spacejunk said:
i like the waterpistol idea a lot.
i'd like to start an activist group around festival season that sprays front gate line-up areas, train stations and other obvious points of sniffer-dog harassment. rather than being effective policing, dogs are a psychological law-enforcement technique, targeting small-time users only and creating a climate of fear (which only leads to more risky drug use as evidenced by the girl that died at the perth BDO ~3 years ago).
if this is a drug war, we need to fight back :)
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I can see a few things wrong with this:

1) You could get done for possession.
2) Obstruction of justice.
 
Yeah, the dogs are pretty much just perfect to get around laws...
 
kroniic said:
I can see a few things wrong with this:

1) You could get done for possession.
2) Obstruction of justice.
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wrong? i don't know about that.
they're risks, for sure. but slight risks.

this is a technique that has been used before - i didn't think of it. it would take some pretty on-the-ball cops to nab you for squirting bong water around in public areas if you went about it the right way at the right time.
and i don't think cops are the smartest cats around.
 
From that link posted by De quincy


LAW ENFORCEMENT (POWERS AND RESPONSIBILITIES) ACT 2002 - SECT 21

Power to search persons and seize and detain things without warrant
21 Power to search persons and seize and detain things without warrant

(cf Crimes Act 1900 , ss 357, 357E, Drug Misuse and Trafficking Act 1985 , s 37)

(1) A police officer may, without a warrant, stop, search and detain a person, and anything in the possession of or under the control of the person, if the police officer suspects on reasonable grounds that any of the following circumstances exists:
(a) the person has in his or her possession or under his or her control anything stolen or otherwise unlawfully obtained,
(b) the person has in his or her possession or under his or her control anything used or intended to be used in or in connection with the commission of a relevant offence,
(c) the person has in his or her possession or under his or her control in a public place a dangerous article that is being or was used in or in connection with the commission of a relevant offence,
(d) the person has in his or her possession or under his or her control, in contravention of the Drug Misuse and Trafficking Act 1985 , a prohibited plant or a prohibited drug.
(2) A police officer may seize and detain:
(a) all or part of a thing that the police officer suspects on reasonable grounds is stolen or otherwise unlawfully obtained, and
(b) all or part of a thing that the police officer suspects on reasonable grounds may provide evidence of the commission of a relevant offence, and
(c) any dangerous article, and
(d) any prohibited plant or prohibited drug in the possession or under the control of a person in contravention of the Drug Misuse and Trafficking Act 1985 ,
found as a result of a search under this section.


So as long as the police think you have something in your possession they can stop and search you.

But what do they have to prove that they suspected you to have contraband?
Is it as simple as " Oh well he was acting suspiciously so I decided to search him?"
Probably.
 
Speaking of searches... Even better, Victoria's new PSOs ("protective service officers") at train stations can search you and your car. Last time I checked, I didn't park my car on a train platform.
 
Yeh thats pretty fkd, they arent even swarn in under oath like the coppers. I could see many problems with these guys, watch some prolly end up raping or molesting people, they are a person of trust, with too much power imo. Wrongful arrest, etc and what if a gang of 15 year olds cause trouble, they gona pull a gun out? Shootings n other stuff will happen

Stations like dande will need like 50 of the,, to protect themselves from getting robbed of their weapons
 
I hate the fact that you can't even record cops on camera; if they tell you to stop you must for "obstructing justice". If the police aren't doing anything wrong then why can't they be recorded? I think a lot more people would feel safer and their rights better protected if they could simply record incidences with police and/or sniffer dogs. With smart phones it makes it easy to record most run ins, even if you choose to only use audio recording in your pocket that's something.
 
the old 'dealing with LE' thread had a lot of talk about this kind of thing, if you can dig it up. pretty interesting - it is remarkably easy to record audio surreptitiously these days.

what the fuck do police know about "justice" anyway?
 
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