Pathetic

blahman8000

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I know I'll be told that I'm wrong, but what do you do when you're literally a pathetic person? Because I'm 23 and I don't have a job, I don't go to school, I rarely go out, I still live with my parents, and all I care about is drinking. I don't really have any friends. When I don't have any booze or money, it's all about killing time until I have enough money for some alcohol again.

I don't experience any happiness or joy. I don't enjoy anything and I don't really care if I get better. When I think about it, I really just want to die soon.

I don't really know why I posted this.
 
There's nothing pathetic about going through a difficult time. You're either living your life in a way that you find satisfying or not, it's not necessary to add any value judgment to that.

You say you don't care if you got better but is that really the case, or do you just not think you can or that it will take too much effort? Even if you don't want to stop drinking at this point you can slowly begin to make small changes and learn to figure out what it is that brings you joy.

The way I say it, if painful emotions are being suppressed then so are the enjoyable ones. Can't ignore one without ignoring the other. It's possible to attempt to live in a mostly steady numbed emotional state, but this takes away from the richness of having all emotions available to us. I don't believe that chasing after pleasurable emotions is the answer either, but having a full repertoire of feelings to experience does make things less dull.

Whatever you decide to do, putting yourself down isn't necessary. You the boss of how to run your own life <3
 
Legerity, thanks for the response.

It's not that I'm just having a difficult time. I'm just always like this. I don't have any interest in living. I've always been a total loser and failure. It's just me. It's just not a period in my life. It's my entire life.

In a way, I like to experience bad emotions, because it's feeling something. I don't like irritation or anger, but I enjoy crying. It makes me feel like I'm human and like I'm actually alive. I hate feeling like a zombie.

I'm just essentially a pathetic person, and I can't erase it. I always have been this absolute failure.
 
your not an absolute failure or a pathetic person. theres many people a lot more pathetic than you. you need to find the inspiration and motivation to change your life. get out of your comfort zone otherwise nothing will change. its up to you
 
Blahman:

Your posts remind me of this saying: if you think you can or if you think you can't, you're right. So, if you think you're not pathetic or if you think you're pathetic, you're right.

This following is my experience, strength, and hope.

It sounds as if you've manifested this self-born idea in your head that you're a loser. I bet if you asked your parents if they thought you were a loser, the answer would be anything but. I bet if you asked your close friends, once again, I bet the answer would be anything but.

Aside from the details of your age, living situation, etc., I think it might be helpful to start with your own mind and body. If you're anything like me, I (especially when I used to use) have negative self-talk quite often. I deal with people all day at my job and find myself saying "You moron, why'd you say that? That ain't you. God, now they're going to think this/that/the other thing about me. Man, I don't have enough money for my own place, what the fuck am I doing with my life. I'm a dipshit" and etc. If I let these thoughts run all day, they would. However, I am creating a false identity of who I am through my mostly negative thoughts.

If you're like me, your mind runs rampant through the day, jumping from topic to topic and seeking out unfulfilled dreams, aspirations, tasks, etc. and then freaking out about them. I go over past situations and call myself a dipshit for being there or doing that. I worry about future situations and how I will act. I worry not to come across as a loser. Quite simply, I worry too much.

The mind is a wonderful mechanism when used correctly. However, I would say most addicts/alcoholics like myself have a hard time containing it. The easiest escape to shut it down is to use.

I am within a month of one year of sobriety and let me tell you, drinking and drugging was not my problem. Granted, I rocked an ounce of cocaine every week and drank two pints a day when I wanted, but today my mind is my problem. All of my problems center from within it.

I now try to change negative self-talk into positive self-talk and exist only in the moment. The moment is all we have. There is no past (and it does not define who we are today) and the future will arrive when we are in that moment. I can do nothing about either, so I choose not to worry myself sick about the two.

I wonder if you had positive self-talk, such as I'm laid-back and don't really care about anything, just love life, if you would be so down on yourself. Maybe you would be this carefree, chill dude that people would envy.

When you think of yourself not having a job, don't let it start bringing tangents in with it like "I still live with my parents, I'm not going to school, I'm not doing anything in life." This is the mind wreaking destruction from within and will ultimately lead to a drink. Instead, search for the solution to one problem. I don't have a job... well, what can I do about it? I can start searching for one. I'll put some applications in and see where it takes me. Your mind will inundate you with negativity and make the world seem like there is no way out, no hope for you. It's great at doing it. When I am paralyzed by what ifs and what's going to happen, the fear is so great that I literally become comatose. I am scared to move, scared to even go outside. I don't feel like I know what to do. But, the great thing is I shouldn't know what to do. There is no script to life, no manual on how to live it. You live it as you live it and that's that.

If you're into reading, then you might enjoy The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. It may be helpful.

Exist in the moment because that is all there is.

Much love.
 
If you really feel that strongly about it you should get some will power and demonstrate a healthy lifestyle taking the steps toward independence
 
Thank you everyone for your replies.

It sounds as if you've manifested this self-born idea in your head that you're a loser. I bet if you asked your parents if they thought you were a loser, the answer would be anything but. I bet if you asked your close friends, once again, I bet the answer would be anything but.
You're correct about my parents. But no, I don't have very many friends. In fact the only person I really hang out with would assure me that I'm a loser. But he'd add that I'm not "that much" of a loser or something like that.


Aside from the details of your age, living situation, etc., I think it might be helpful to start with your own mind and body. If you're anything like me, I (especially when I used to use) have negative self-talk quite often. I deal with people all day at my job and find myself saying "You moron, why'd you say that? That ain't you. God, now they're going to think this/that/the other thing about me. Man, I don't have enough money for my own place, what the fuck am I doing with my life. I'm a dipshit" and etc. If I let these thoughts run all day, they would. However, I am creating a false identity of who I am through my mostly negative thoughts.


If you're like me, your mind runs rampant through the day, jumping from topic to topic and seeking out unfulfilled dreams, aspirations, tasks, etc. and then freaking out about them. I go over past situations and call myself a dipshit for being there or doing that. I worry about future situations and how I will act. I worry not to come across as a loser. Quite simply, I worry too much.
Yes, I am exactly like this. That's me to the T. I've always been that way. I am a very obsessive thinker, and when you mix that with negativity, it's awful. Whenever I'm done hanging out with someone or even if I've just had a conversation with someone, I always pick out little things I did and put myself down. I always feel like I fucked up. There's always something I'm just torturing myself about.

If it's not that, then I'm obsessing over mental/personality disorders that I feel like I might have. This goes on all day every day. I drink in an attempt to relieve it all.

I am within a month of one year of sobriety
Congrats, man. Seriously. Keep it up.

I now try to change negative self-talk into positive self-talk and exist only in the moment. The moment is all we have. There is no past (and it does not define who we are today) and the future will arrive when we are in that moment. I can do nothing about either, so I choose not to worry myself sick about the two.

I wonder if you had positive self-talk, such as I'm laid-back and don't really care about anything, just love life, if you would be so down on yourself. Maybe you would be this carefree, chill dude that people would envy.

When you think of yourself not having a job, don't let it start bringing tangents in with it like "I still live with my parents, I'm not going to school, I'm not doing anything in life." This is the mind wreaking destruction from within and will ultimately lead to a drink. Instead, search for the solution to one problem. I don't have a job... well, what can I do about it? I can start searching for one. I'll put some applications in and see where it takes me. Your mind will inundate you with negativity and make the world seem like there is no way out, no hope for you. It's great at doing it. When I am paralyzed by what ifs and what's going to happen, the fear is so great that I literally become comatose. I am scared to move, scared to even go outside. I don't feel like I know what to do. But, the great thing is I shouldn't know what to do. There is no script to life, no manual on how to live it. You live it as you live it and that's that.

If you're into reading, then you might enjoy The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. It may be helpful.

Exist in the moment because that is all there is.

Much love.
This is all very good advice, and I will certainly keep it in mind. Thank you.

The reason why I don't really search for jobs is probably my insecurities. I'm only 23 and basically all my hair is already gone, and I'm short with this beer gut. I mean I've got to have the worst physical appearance out of literally everyone I know who's even remotely close to my age. I know this is a very stupid and foolish reason to avoid getting a job, but it's a very real issue for me.
 
Legerity, thanks for the response.

It's not that I'm just having a difficult time. I'm just always like this. I don't have any interest in living. I've always been a total loser and failure. It's just me. It's just not a period in my life. It's my entire life.

In a way, I like to experience bad emotions, because it's feeling something. I don't like irritation or anger, but I enjoy crying. It makes me feel like I'm human and like I'm actually alive. I hate feeling like a zombie.

I'm just essentially a pathetic person, and I can't erase it. I always have been this absolute failure.



Hmm.....I have a few question & I hope you will not be offended. Are you over weight? Are you a decent looking male, looks wise? Did your parents ever abuse you? Can you make convo with girls easily? Do you exercise? I have more questions but lets start with these.
 
Have you ever heard of a self-fulfilling prophecy? It's basically a belief that you have about yourself that comes true. For example, if you call yourself pathetic, then you will act in a pathetic way, and therefore perceive yourself as pathetic. If you call yourself worthy, then eventually you will believe that you are worthy and perceive it as being true.

The first step toward happiness in life is accepting yourself for who you are and eventually loving yourself. When you love yourself, everything will naturally fall into place. You are only granted one life; at least make the best out of it while you are alive. Try using positive daily affirmations. Every day, multiple times a day tell yourself "I am a respectable individual and I love myself." Eventually your brain will start to believe it and you are on your way to becoming happier. It's a very simple practice that I do myself, and it works. Try it, what have you got to lose?

I also recommend a book called I Didn't Know I Had a Choice. I can't remember who the author was :P but it is a textbook that I had for one of my psych classes and it has the power to give you amazing insight about yourself. It is extremely worth reading, especially if you are feeling down about life.
 
Nice experience, strength, and hope purplelights. I can use that myself.

Blahman:

I, too, can over-analyze my appearance and pick out every God damn imperfection about myself. Wait, what'd I just say? Oh, imperfection. And who the fuck is perfect? Whoa, nobody :)

Like purplelights said, I tell myself every day that we have one life. Nothing is promised afterwards. So, if today is all I have, then I will walk in confidence even if I have a big nose, big ears, and receding hairline. It doesn't matter man. It's me and I'm unique. Nobody else looks like me, talks like me, or acts like me. Same with you man. Some of the best advice I've gotten about being myself is if it feels like I'm being judged, it's because I'm judging. Recognize thoughts like these in your mind and then dismiss them as your ego, your mind, your false self. Everything your mind says to you can be a lie.

You mentioned you're short and have a beer gut. What might be the solution? Whatever God there is made you your height for a reason and the beer gut can be dealt with. Running, biking, lifting weights, anything active will add to your self-worth. You will feel it.

The world will crush us with impressionable minds. It will make us think that beauty and everything on TV is the way it is. Beautiful girls, lots of money to fuck around with, and anything and everything I want to do. Not so. I'm not ugly and you're not ugly, and nobody is ugly. We are all unique and I think it's time to shut down the ego, the false self (the mind) and just be. Don't even worry about being yourself, you can figure yourself out as you grow. Just be.

You got it man.
 
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