Verybuffed
Bluelighter
Then take them out of their comfort zone. Maybe some 4th Reich clothing or something similar? Everyone has their weak spots.
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Parents dob son in for drug dealing
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Then take them out of their comfort zone. Maybe some 4th Reich clothing or something similar? Everyone has their weak spots.
PsiloSubNaut
Bluelight Crew
I like your style VB! 4th reich clothing and a copy of mein kampf would maybe do it.
I tortured my poor parents pretty well over the years. I definitely deserved to get kicked out tens of times and didn't. I'm just really glad they were nothing like this guys oldies.
I'd like to get the full story behind this guy getting done. Maybe he was really stuffing up and they had already given him chances, who knows...
I tortured my poor parents pretty well over the years. I definitely deserved to get kicked out tens of times and didn't. I'm just really glad they were nothing like this guys oldies.
I'd like to get the full story behind this guy getting done. Maybe he was really stuffing up and they had already given him chances, who knows...
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
my parents have been accepting of it in the past, but those days are well over. too bad he never got the chance to spend the $120k.
i'd be pissed at my folks to say the least. but for all i know the guy mighta needed a good kick up the arse.
i'd be pissed at my folks to say the least. but for all i know the guy mighta needed a good kick up the arse.
Thanks for posting this thestudent14. I thought it was very interesting to see the significant sentencing discount he received because of his parent's actions and also the results of the poll on SMH showing out of 7000 respondents, the split between tell/don't tell is (at the moment) exactly 50/50.
chugs
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I don't know if many posters here are parents but I can say that its a very difficult and hard job without having to factor drugs into the mix.
First off, yes I think parents "dobbing" their kids in is a sign of failure that they weren't able to teach their kids "right" in the first place. Yes I agree we all have the right to smoke, plug, inject, snort our brains to oblivion but I intensely disagree with the open black market situation we have. It is responsible (we are responsible) for a huge amount of death and destruction (and i'm not talking about the use of drugs).
I wouldn't dob my kid in but I would be horrified to find out if she was involved in major transactions. I hope to ensure that they never get to that point.
Re the other points I hope I never have to distrust my kid to the extent i'm searching and tracking them. Like I said I think its a sign of failure, that the relationship has deteriorated so badly due to my inability to have a frank, open and candid discussion about ones behaviours and how to dodge the minefield of life.
I hope to install in my kid the sort of values that will allow her to comprehend the apparent contradiction that their old man was shooting up 14 but that probably wasn't the best thing to be doing at that age. I want them to be capable of seeing the consequences their actions bring, and I think it comes from a young age. Installing those behaviours, and having the ground discussions.
enough ramble..
hehehe, i voted twice (no)
First off, yes I think parents "dobbing" their kids in is a sign of failure that they weren't able to teach their kids "right" in the first place. Yes I agree we all have the right to smoke, plug, inject, snort our brains to oblivion but I intensely disagree with the open black market situation we have. It is responsible (we are responsible) for a huge amount of death and destruction (and i'm not talking about the use of drugs).
I wouldn't dob my kid in but I would be horrified to find out if she was involved in major transactions. I hope to ensure that they never get to that point.
Re the other points I hope I never have to distrust my kid to the extent i'm searching and tracking them. Like I said I think its a sign of failure, that the relationship has deteriorated so badly due to my inability to have a frank, open and candid discussion about ones behaviours and how to dodge the minefield of life.
I hope to install in my kid the sort of values that will allow her to comprehend the apparent contradiction that their old man was shooting up 14 but that probably wasn't the best thing to be doing at that age. I want them to be capable of seeing the consequences their actions bring, and I think it comes from a young age. Installing those behaviours, and having the ground discussions.
enough ramble..
hehehe, i voted twice (no)
rm2x
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their house, their rules, if poor little Gregory wants to be a big time dealer then he can move out of mum and dads house
it shows a complete lack of respect to the parents if they don't want that shit going on... noticed most of the shonky dealers are normally living with their parents still
it shows a complete lack of respect to the parents if they don't want that shit going on... noticed most of the shonky dealers are normally living with their parents still
Crankinit
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They would have been well within their rights to kick him out of the house, that's a little different to dobbing him in to the police.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I knew of one particular chap who was 24 - 25 still living at home with mum and dad whilst selling 4000 pills a week as well as large quantities of meth and coke. Funny enough his parents supported it as the money was nice. Another guy from my area got busted by the cops once for dealing large quantities of weed and pills, after this he changes his tactics and got his parents to buy a unit for him with the proceeds of the drug money, again they knew what he was doing.
You would assume that these types of people would move out of home but a drug dealer is never the smartest person, in reality they are nothing more than a kid who still doesn't want to grow up. Who is still rebelling against their parents and life in general. Yeah the money may be good but that's a shallow way of looking at life, i.e. that it's all monetary.
You would assume that these types of people would move out of home but a drug dealer is never the smartest person, in reality they are nothing more than a kid who still doesn't want to grow up. Who is still rebelling against their parents and life in general. Yeah the money may be good but that's a shallow way of looking at life, i.e. that it's all monetary.
ayjay
Bluelighter
Agreed - but my guess is this feller was never going to be one of those...
thestudent14
Bluelighter
Maybe you just don't know the smarter drug dealers
I know a guy who owned a whole street through deals and is now into his 50's and still never been caught.
I know another one who has a wife and family and earns a good living but earns a whole lot more through moving whip.
MrIbis
Bluelighter
^Does this person deserve a medal?
Honestly man, if you own a street worth of houses and you deal drugs - you're going to get caught.
Everyone gets their day man, and it's only a matter of time - and in all honesty - being busted sooner than later is a much better outcome, believe me. It all catches up with you.
It's not a matter of IF, it's WHEN.
Honestly man, if you own a street worth of houses and you deal drugs - you're going to get caught.
Everyone gets their day man, and it's only a matter of time - and in all honesty - being busted sooner than later is a much better outcome, believe me. It all catches up with you.
It's not a matter of IF, it's WHEN.
PsiloSubNaut
Bluelight Crew
^ Have a serious think about this. If everybody dealing in drugs got caught, then there would be no suppliers at all. There is definitely a high risk involved with all illegal activity, but it's not 100%.
The figures for use, compared to the bust figures just don't add up for starters.
I have been to the funerals of people who grew and sold weed for most of their lives and know of plenty of retired dealers who don't have any marks against their names.
Many drug using dealers get caught because the drugs effect judgment and they make mistakes which lead to their demise. Greed also plays a big role in people getting busted.
There are plenty of investors that don't use/abuse drugs that stay well under the radar.
The figures for use, compared to the bust figures just don't add up for starters.
I have been to the funerals of people who grew and sold weed for most of their lives and know of plenty of retired dealers who don't have any marks against their names.
Many drug using dealers get caught because the drugs effect judgment and they make mistakes which lead to their demise. Greed also plays a big role in people getting busted.
There are plenty of investors that don't use/abuse drugs that stay well under the radar.
thestudent14
Bluelighter
Yeah exactly, it's how you play the game (as well as luck of course).
But I agree it's a very risky business and alot of people either get caught or end up 6ft under. However I think if you only deal with the right people, and you never get greedy, you can be a kingpin that no one ever knows about.
To be honest, cosidering the cautious guy that this person is I find it suprising that I even know about it. I think if I was ever that high up I wouldn't be gloating about it to a 21 year old that I haven't known very long But hey, I'm good for it 
Anyhow to get back on topic. I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks of alternative options.
So far the main ones have been
A: Turn the kid into the cops
B: Speak to the kid, tell them it's unacceptable and make the $$$ go towards something helpful.
C: Kick them out.
What other options are there? I'm sure us smart bunch of bluelighters can come up with a great alternative...
But I agree it's a very risky business and alot of people either get caught or end up 6ft under. However I think if you only deal with the right people, and you never get greedy, you can be a kingpin that no one ever knows about.
To be honest, cosidering the cautious guy that this person is I find it suprising that I even know about it. I think if I was ever that high up I wouldn't be gloating about it to a 21 year old that I haven't known very long
But hey, I'm good for it Anyhow to get back on topic. I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks of alternative options.
So far the main ones have been
A: Turn the kid into the cops
B: Speak to the kid, tell them it's unacceptable and make the $$$ go towards something helpful.
C: Kick them out.
What other options are there? I'm sure us smart bunch of bluelighters can come up with a great alternative...
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Sustanon
Bluelighter
Surely there would of been another solution to end all of this? I just dont get it why a responsible adult/s would do such a thing with there child. Sure he deserves a punishment but not that sort.
stephaniecc
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To everyone who has a neggative oppinion
Having personally met greg and his family, he is in an amazing place right now he has learnt a great lesson and from what i can see is very thank full for his parents making the gut wrenching decision to ultimatly help him in a time of darkness were he could not escape what he had become..
this may not be the case for everyone but any parent who loves there child enough to stand by them thru this sort of ordeal and get him back on the right track deserves applause not bad mouthing..
they were not vicious people who wanted there son to be punished, but loving parents who new there son was over his head and saved him from being caught in the long run with a much worse off sentencing..
for those of u stating ' invading privacy raiding his room... it was there home ... it was there son... it was illegal behaviour GROW UP ! u are clearly not a parent and if u are u need a gud look in the mirror
'feel sorry for this bloke, his parents could of at least given him one warning and maybe sat down with him and had a chat' He was not playing nock and run u fool, he was in a serious criminal predicimate
have your opinion, but he will be moving on and living a great life while you do..
Having personally met greg and his family, he is in an amazing place right now he has learnt a great lesson and from what i can see is very thank full for his parents making the gut wrenching decision to ultimatly help him in a time of darkness were he could not escape what he had become..
this may not be the case for everyone but any parent who loves there child enough to stand by them thru this sort of ordeal and get him back on the right track deserves applause not bad mouthing..
they were not vicious people who wanted there son to be punished, but loving parents who new there son was over his head and saved him from being caught in the long run with a much worse off sentencing..
for those of u stating ' invading privacy raiding his room... it was there home ... it was there son... it was illegal behaviour GROW UP ! u are clearly not a parent and if u are u need a gud look in the mirror
'feel sorry for this bloke, his parents could of at least given him one warning and maybe sat down with him and had a chat' He was not playing nock and run u fool, he was in a serious criminal predicimate
have your opinion, but he will be moving on and living a great life while you do..
Verybuffed
Bluelighter
Hi stephaniecc, welcome to Bluelight.
You will get a better reception here if you can refrain from abusing Bluelight members. I predict that your response will attract it's fair share of flaming.
ayjay
Bluelighter
^ no flames from me 
but that's because you basically backed what I posted, steph
but that's because you basically backed what I posted, steph 
hyroller
Bluelighter
worst parents in the world if you ask me.... they really have no idea how damaging their actions were. imagine doing that to your own child before trying to get them into rehab/addressing the underlying issues for their use 
something my parents would do, probably. horrible, cruel and more detrimental for their child than taking the time to care for them properly....heaven forbid! 8)
something my parents would do, probably. horrible, cruel and more detrimental for their child than taking the time to care for them properly....heaven forbid! 8)
Verybuffed
Bluelighter
At least the parents didn't take the pills or substitute them for M & M's, then the kid would probably be dead.
Do we know that the kid was actually using? I can only find reference to dealing.
Do we know that the kid was actually using? I can only find reference to dealing.
belarki
Bluelight Crew
So in the same situation you'd give your child a "10-year non-parole jail term" to teach them a lesson and get them back on the right track, out of love? Surely there's be a better way to handle the situation? As Psilo mentioned that'd be more likely to destroy their relationship and potentially turn him into a hardened criminal. He's lucky he got such a short sentence.
Thank you for taking the time to join BL and post your opinion though stephaniecc