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Papaver Somniferum-is the time right now?

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I have noticed vast amounts of poppies in the hills, yet none that have the white flower. These are juicy, fat, have cabbage-like, serrated leaves, and even are staining slightly brown on the outside. I think they are the Persian variety, but hey im just starting to learn the folklore of opium. Reminds me a bit of cannabis.

Is the window to lance the opium, or harvest poppy straw, very small? Outside of proper times(1-2 weeks after petals fall), will alkaloids be at minuscule levels?
 
UPDATE: So i lanced them,but given my time available, i was unable to come back.

So, i proceeded to literally suck on the scored pods. I read somewhere that there is a spice to high alkaloid pods. Well, gee, this has a spice or 'tang' to it lol. After suckin on maybe 10, I knew to stop. For some reason, given my insane thyroid and metabolism as a bodybuilder, i knew instantly something had entered me. Im sitting here, feeling a little more buzzed, but should i go bak to harvest the opium from the scored poppy.
 
Hi Smokedup

You have to wait for the poppy to flower and for its petal's to drop before its ready to be scored. Unfortunately your trying to milk immature flowers. Like I said. Wait for the flower petals to drop and then those babies are ready. I think the opiates that it produces is used in the process of producing the seeds. When flower drops off this means the pods are ready.

If you were really motivated you could simply "weed" all of the poppies out, stems, seeds etc, (no scoring) and simmer those bitches for a few hours and then strain them using cotton clothes. Repeat and shake until you've gotten all the plant material out and then, reduced the liquid etc.

And then you'd have pure opium which you could smoke or parachute.
 
Can you visibly tell the difference in pod characteristics, before and after flowering?

I saw some that definitely had petals that had fallen, and dried up and curled over the pod. These were the most brown tinged.

Cheers for the info. Looks like you would need a fair amount of pods for a proper habit. Lucky for me, i know to stay away from painkillers. Im a closet downer guy, whos doin meth. But i like the appeal of occasional pod use, when in season. Feel like im using what the earth gave us to enjoy.
 
I just used the chuck them in a blender with some juice and make a (very bitter) green smoothie type thing, with a bit of fruit juice (citrus goes well to help neutralise the bitterness a little).
Once i'd blended it into a frothy green soup, i would strain it with a reasonably fine sieve - then "wash'n'toss" the ground up solid plant material (basically swallowing pinches of pod grinds like you would swallow pills).
No need to heat it, boil it down or whatever - though you can if you want to make an extract you can keep for a while.
Alternatively, you can dry out the pods, but the more you fuck around with poppy pods, the more you risk having them go mouldy on you.

I think everyone that grows opium poppies loves the idea of scoring them to collect latex - but without a rather large plot of land and a sizeable crop, this method doesn't yield a whole lot.
Best bang for your proverbial buck is making tea IME.

I used to be a massive pod fiend, and would grow and dry hundreds of pods each season.
Through trial and error, i realised that things like the poppy straw (i'm probably not using that term in its correct context - but the stalk bit that the pods sit atop of) were definitely worth keeping and using.
I remember being pleasantly surprised when i had some stems left over and i was running low, and making a tea out of just the dried stalks - it wasn't strong, but they did the trick.
So - yeah, you can use all the plant (leaves, stalks etc) as they do have active alkaloids in them, albeit in smaller concentrations than the pods.
Just be careful not to be complacent with dosing - if you take too much, it will make you ill, and opium has such a long halflife that you'll feel terrible for a couple of days.
And of course, don't mix with booze or other downers like benzos, as this can be dangerous.

Enjoy :)
 
So - yeah, you can use all the plant (leaves, stalks etc) as they do have active alkaloids in them, albeit in smaller concentrations than the pods. Just be careful not to be complacent with dosing - if you take too much, it will make you ill, and opium has such a long halflife that you'll feel terrible for a couple of days.Enjoy :)

Did the crop vary from season to season, i.e. 250 ml was a good dose last year but this year you only need 200 ml?

And how did you determine a dose? i.e. one cup of poppy tea?

edit: How much do you need to grow for for a dose a day type situation
 
I didn't measure it by mL, but by volume of grinds (ground-up pod material).
Or, to be more accurate (which is to say not very accurate!) i measured it more in teaspoons or tablespoons of pod grinds.

Potency varies from pod to pod, season to season, patch to patch, plant to plant.
Some pods were noticeably weaker than others, so were much stronger. But with the tolerance i had, the variation in potency was never dangerous. And i never really came across pods that were too weak to be worthwhile.

Potency was less variation than PST...i think.
It's been yesrs since i've taken pods, so my memory for detail is best taken with a grain of salt.

from memory i think i used to take anywhere between 1-2 tablespoons and maybe 8-10 tablespoons of ground up pods for a dose. It might have been more... I generally used to just grab a handful of dry pods, chuck them in a coffee grinder, then mix with juice and somehow choke it down. I think i maybe put it in a blender or something.
i had pretty much the same preparation method for fresh or dried pods - except the dry ones i'd powder in a coffee grinder, then wash it down with juice, water or whatever - but the fresh pods obviously weigh more and are bulkier than dried, powdered pods.

Dosing was largely intuitive and a matter of trial-and error, but when people have large amounts of pods, especially if they're different varieties, crops, potency or whatever - the HR tip (from back when there was an online pod "community", which all but vanished when the US govt/law enforcement shut down the quasi-legal pod market about 5-10 years ago) was to grind up and mix all your pods together, to make as uniform a mix of ginds as possible.
The smaller end would hold WDs at bay, and the higher doses obviously got me more stoned - but i used to find that if i had more than one (maybe two) large doses in a single day, i'd get crook.
Nasty headache, lethargy, vomiting.
Technically an OD of sorts, but i never lost consciousness or anything - i just got violently ill from one of the numerous alkaloids in the mix - and i'd feel like absolute shit for 24-72 hours-ish.
Not fun - but that was when i was being really reckless.

I also want to make it really clear that i had a fairly high tolerance when i was taking larger doses of pods - and that it would be dangeous for a non-opiate user to take 8 tablespoons of pods.

Unlike codeine and some other drugs, redosing works fine with poppies, so it is easy to titrate your dose til you get to a nice level.
It doesn't kick in right away though - it's not like pain pills or alcohol; broad sprectrum alkaloid opium mixes can take a long time to take effect - so sit with it for at least an hour before you decide to take more (and only take more if you're not high !)

Pods can be strong - but not so strong that licking a bit of latex is going to get (most) people fucked up.
It's also somewhat subtle - people used to shooting smack or taking lots of oxy may find opium tea a little underwhelming - but i used to prefer it because it had a range of slightly different effects - a bit stimulating sometimes, sometimes a bit more dreamy - but by the same token, a solid dose would have me nodding just like anything else.
 
I have dug this thread up again to update.

I have been liberating poppy straw from a couple of spots with varying coloured seeds(red,white,brown,purp etc)

Finally caught an amazing, itchy, vivid, dream-like buzz from basically blending about 10-15 poppy straws with 1 cup of water.
I then warmed it on the stovetop, placed it in a Pyrex cup, set the drying function at 60 degrees and wedged a wooden spoon in he door to get air. I let it sit in there as long as I could wait.
I'm going to have to respect what this plant offers, cause I've heard it can kick your ass when u try quit.
 
Had a pretty reasonable crop this season - just finished the last in fact. As others have said, too time-consuming for the tiny amount you end up with to bother too much with scoring the pods and harvesting the latex - best to just make some sort of brew from the pods. This comes on fairly slowly and can be rather subtle (as can many opiates in a way IMO) but it's still a very nice stone; however if you want a heroin-like rush you'll be disappointed. Tastes foul, obviously, but the bitterer the better in terms of potency I'm pretty sure.
 
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