Painkillers are a gateway to heroin

slimvictor said:
June 23, 2011|By Mariana van Zeller, Special to CNN


This past winter, I found myself following a drug dealer and his crew up the dark stairway of a triple-decker apartment building on the outskirts of Boston. Reaching a unit on the top floor, the young man pulled a gun from his waistband and set it on a coffee table next to a digital scale and a pile of drugs.

Entering a drug den, you might expect to find cocaine or heroin. But side by side with this pile of "hard stuff" were prescription pills, lots of them.

The little green tablets the men were dealing -- known as "Perc 30s," "Percs" or simply "30s" on the streets -- were 30-milligram oxycodone. In medicine, oxycodone is known as an opioid analgesic, a powerful painkiller prescribed to patients with acute or chronic pain. On the streets, it's known as heroin in a pill, and to borrow some Boston slang, it will get you "completely jammed."

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This was taken from that "Gateway to Heroin" show that was on current TV last week..
 
Well no shit. I myself am dealing with serious medical problems involving vertigo-inducing pain and because of the incredibly ignorant, assinine social stigma around opiates I have been unable to get anything near sufficient pain relief(perc 7.5/500 is the "strongest" I can get, where OC 40S would be the minimum I would realistically need) and I've been forced to start hustling to get heroin just to mitigate the extreme pain I'm in. I am consistantly amazed how stingy and compassionless docs are towards people in crippling pain. And I feel like I hear "tough it out" 1 more time I'm going to start slashing throats.
 
Uriah_Heep said:
Well no shit. I myself am dealing with serious medical problems involving vertigo-inducing pain and because of the incredibly ignorant, assinine social stigma around opiates I have been unable to get anything near sufficient pain relief(perc 7.5/500 is the "strongest" I can get, where OC 40S would be the minimum I would realistically need) and I've been forced to start hustling to get heroin just to mitigate the extreme pain I'm in. I am consistantly amazed how stingy and compassionless docs are towards people in crippling pain. And I feel like I hear "tough it out" 1 more time I'm going to start slashing throats.
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The younger doctors are hesitant to prescribe the stronger opiates. My cousin has a doctor thats like 80 years old & prescribes him anything he wants just for a shoulder pain. He went in last year with a painful shoulder & asked for roxi 15's & got them, LoL!
 
Uh, no fucking shit. I've generally done oxy and vicodin, but am heavily considering jumping over to H because oxy is so goddamn expensive. But it really does not take a scientific study to realize that expensive painkillers will lead buyers to seek cheaper painkillers. Pharmaceutical drugs just have a much more favorable public image due only to their legality - people assume that it if it's legal, then it couldn't be that bad for you, which is the worst type of logical fallacy, and shows a disgusting respect for authority on the part of the general populace. I'll admit that I've been hesitant to switch to heroin mostly because of the stigma attached to it, but it's not inherently worse that oxycodone (except maybe for the inherent risks associated with a street drug versus a pharmaceutical grade pill).
 
This is why I support medical cannabis legislation. If cheap, effective, and relatively non-addictive medication is available for pain management it will steer patients away from opiates.

I am in a medical cannabis state, but haven't decided if I should get it myself. I used to have it in another state where medical cannabis was more established, and it was probably the most effective treatment I've found for chronic pain. Last time I saw a doc she offered me a fucking SSRI of all things, then told me that she considered a bit of weed "extreme". Give me a fucking break, big pharma.

That said, there's definitely a place for poppies in medicine.
 
lol, i call them perc 30's now myself. If you call them roxies around here, youll get weird looks.

And yeah, oxycodone does get you completely jammed, haha. I love our New England slang

I also love that heroin has made a huge comeback up here since oxycontin is gone.

And its pretty obvious painkillers are a gateway to heroin.....
 
"But it's also important for us to acknowledge that painkillers have now introduced a whole new generation of addicts to heroin, an addictive, dangerous drug and one of the most difficult to quit."

So oxy is less of an addictive, dangerous drug and is easier to quit than heroin? It makes no fucking difference, both are the same, only different manufacturers.

But I kind of get her point, many kids would never have tried opiates if not for oxy, but that's just the effect of prohibition. If your weed dealer also carries other stuff, of course you're going to try.
 
slimvictor said:
June 23, 2011|By Mariana van Zeller, Special to CNN


This past winter, I found myself following a drug dealer and his crew up the dark stairway of a triple-decker apartment building on the outskirts of Boston. Reaching a unit on the top floor, the young man pulled a gun from his waistband and set it on a coffee table next to a digital scale and a pile of drugs.

The little green tablets the men were dealing -- known as "Perc 30s," "Percs" or simply "30s" on the streets -- were 30-milligram oxycodone. In medicine, oxycodone is known as an opioid analgesic, a powerful painkiller prescribed to patients with acute or chronic pain. On the streets, it's known as heroin in a pill, and to borrow some Boston slang, it will get you "completely jammed."

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I really hate the whole "gateway" drug thing... but as far as opiates... I don't know anyone that started using heroin before they had already at least experimented with stuff like Percs and Vicodins. You almost need to so you get a slight tolerance so you won't get sick your first times using heroin.

But OC's were not widely available at the time and WAY too expensive - so we went straight to heroin and only banged OC's if someone could get them for free or we were going through WD's. They were never sold on the streets of Baltimore, either.
 
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