Painkiller beginner with some legit questions

[Prissygetspissy]

Hello! I am 38 y/ female, and I weigh about 185 pounds. I’m also very short, so that gives you some insight as to where my beginners tolerance level might lie. I am prescribed 2.5 mg of Klonopin per day, I generally have a surplus of about 20 to 30 a month, so I just accumulate LOL. I recently had surgery, was prescribed oxycodone initially, and when that ran out I came across some Norco ‘s. I guess hydrocodone is also Percocet? Hydrocodone is also called Norco? Either way, it was all mixed with Tylenol. I found that the Percocet gave me crazy energy, made it really hard to relax, I was a busybody. Not good for recovery. Norco on the other hand definitely helps me slow things down, it’s just not very strong. You’re supposed to take one to two Norco‘s for pain, I was maxing out at four. But I also like the slight high. I’m all about recreational drug use as long as you are safe about it. I have a friend who deals in all kinds of stuff, but his prices seem astronomically expensive. Like, one Tylenol three or codeine mixed with Tylenol which I hear is even weaker than Norco, is $15 a pill. You get 20 or more, he cuts the price in half. Granted he takes all the risk of buying all the shit on these crazy European websites and stuff, he tries all his products to make sure they are legit, and has a few regular connections in Germany and the United Kingdom. But who can afford that? There are so many threads and so many people on this site, it’s a little bit hard to find information for beginner types like myself, so I have figured out hydrocodone is towards the top of the opioids mix with Tylenol, and the Tylenol 3’s w/codeine are the weaker of the three. Glad I didn’t buy those, I would’ve been disappointed. Would like to know if there’s anything above hydrocodone? Not loving that it is mixed with Tylenol, but I know pure opioids like oxycontin, that kind of shit starts getting really costly. Don’t want to do heroin, Tried smoking it twice and think it was overkill. I was nodding like a bastard. And my only connection, generally deals in bulk. So if he’s selling small quantities, he’s going to charge outrageous prices. Any thoughts or help on what I’ve posted would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Deru]

Doing legit hydrocodone and oxycodone from the street is a quick way to go bankrupt, the costs are outrageons. If it’s not from a pharmacy, I would be extremely hesitant to use it.

Hydrocodone is Norco, also known as Vicodin.
Oxycodone is Percocet.

Oxycodone has that great stimulant type effect, just as you described. Although, this is more muted with Percocet due to the acetaminophen. The only good thing Percocet was for, was legitimate pain, as the oxycodone and acetaminophen create a synergistic and opioid-sparing effect.

Hydrocodone is very difficult to use recreationally, at least it was for me. The ratio of hydrocodone to acetaminophen really makes it impossible to achieve anything worthwhile, it doesn’t have the stimulant type high like oxycodone, and using high doses of acetaminophen for long periods of time is incredibly toxic to the liver.

Codeine has an MME of 0.15, which means 1 mg of codeine is the equivalent of 0.15 mg of morphine. (MME = Morphine Milligram Equivalents)
Hydrocodone has an MME of 1.0, which means 1 mg of hydrocodone is the equivalent of 1 mg of morphine.
Oxycodone has an MME of 1.5, which means 1 mg of oxycodone is the equivalent of 1.5 mg of morphine.

 

[OpiateKiller]

Agreed with Deru. Oxycodone brought my bank account from $30,000 to $0 in about 6-9 months while working a full time job. Unless you make over 100k a year and more realistically over 250k a year I’d stay away from a street funded pain pill addiction

 

[divaofsongs]

Take it from me, I have spent over $250K this year alone buying 1,000mg+ a day of oxycodone to fuel my ridiculous habit! I have a very successful business and make 7 figures a year, unfortunately, my accounts have been drained and I am about to lose everything over a stupid little pill that costs $1 a mg on the streets! I started out just like you, loving the feeling of energy and warm feeling, it has now ended with me trying like hell right now to find a way to get on Suboxone without having to stare death in the face getting far enough into withdrawal to take Suboxone without going into precipitated withdrawal, which has happened to me once before and it was worse than death!

My opinion.......run, don't walk, as far away as you can get from opiates of any type. Find another way to feel good, coke, week, anything else, because it only takes a short time to develop a dependency on opiates, and once that happens, it is downhill from there.