Opioids Oxyneo user - One day no euphoria at all

[CanadaGhost]

Hi Everyone,

I came here because I need some advice. First, I have been using Oxycontin for about 1-2 year now and I am a daily user. I use about 60-80 mg of oxyneo three to four times a day. Recently, I ran out and got some morphine to avoid withdrawl until I got some more oxyneo. I did a 100mg of morphine and got very high. Typically, I do my dosage of 60-80 mg and I always get euphoria. Now the day after I used morphine I got some more oxyneo and this was the day I lost euphoria 100%.

Now I understand tolerence - this is not the issue. I got my oxyneo and I used my regular dosage of 80 mg and nothing...no withdrawl effects but no euphoria AT ALL.
So, I decided I would take another dosage of 60mg and NOTHING. This dosage would almost always give me the nod but it did nothing. I am flabbergasted.

So, this has continued for about 2 weeks and I have noticed that I have been getting withdrawl symptoms at night. It almost feels like only a small percentage of the drug is getting into my system. Now here is the wierd thing. I used HUGE amounts chasing the euphoria for 1 week - and got absolutely no euphoria. The only thing I can think that is different is that I have been constipated.

Now 1.5 weeks after I lost all euphoria - I started to do smaller doses one day..and I used 60mg = nothing....later in the day I used 40 mg.....nothing...Than about 2pm I did another 40 mg and I got BLASTED with euphoria - it was back...I was feeling the euphoria for about 1.5 hours and it went away like usaul. Now the odd thing here is I would not get this much euphoria generally from 40 mg - it would generally take 80mg...

Ever since that day (about 5 days ago) I have no euphoria from oxy...I will still take my regular doses but now Im waking up in the morning with withdrawl around 6-7 a.m. and this is NOT NORMAL..

I apreciate everyones advice on here but this is NOT a tolerence issue as I can use 300mg in one dosage and still get no euphoria. Its almost like the 1 day off of oxy has triggered something in my brian to stop the euphoria.

Or my other thought is that I am constipated and because of this the drug is not processing well in my body.

I know my body is processing the drug because the withdrawl effects stop after about 10-25 minutes after dosing - so its getting into me.

I just dont understand what is happening...No euphoria...Im withdrawling on my regular dosage...and out of the blue I get euphoria and not since..


THis has been going on about 2.5 weeks...

I feel it may be signs from god that I need to quit now since this habit is costing $$$$.

All advice is appreciated..

CanadaGhost

 

[tricomb]

Hate to break it to ya, but you can't rely on a drug for recreational purposes if your taking it daily for therapeutic ones. You may have had some lingering euphoria for months or even years of daily dosing but that is only a matter of time. Your body has retrained it's reward pathways replacing the natural endorphins with pharmaceutical opioids. Endorphins, your bodies release these reward drugs in small amounts to control/balance your mood. Larger amounts are released after prolonged physical activity (like runners high), however when your dependent on opioids, as time goes by, the opioid drugs replaces your natural reward drugs so it really messes with your mood when you don't have them, and of course there's withdrawals.

More importantly, now, opioids are also working to balance your mood. Your expecting euphoria, but you've become so desensitized to it that you can't even feel it anymore. This has been proven again and again over time, people double, triple, etc, take exponential amounts of their drug of choice in hopes for feeling that initial euphoria you used to get, but they never find it, just extreme CNS depression.

IMO, I would stop expecting euphoria from your pain medication, it's only going to let you down repeatedly over time.

 

[laCster]

^great post

your tolerance is too high, you have been taking it for too long, and you are using daily.

 

[CanadaGhost]

I do appreciate your advice. And this is something I considered. The wierd thing is I figured it would be a gradual thing, instead it was an overnight thing. Of coarse I had to up my dosage over time to reach the same level of euphoria but now no matter how much I take I get no euphoria. Another thing I have considered is the fact the I believe I am constipated and this is preventing the drug to get into my body properly.

As an example: I have had the same euphoria for years - just at higher dosages. Its the feeling I get from the drug. But like I said - I took one day off of oxy and replaced it with morphine and got the regular morphine high. The next day I got more oxy but this was the day I stopped getting euphoria.

Now, after days I stopped getting any euphoria but I have been "chasing the dragon" - just hoping it will come back. My reasoning behind this, as I previously stated, was beacuse in day 5 of the 'no euphoria' phase I did a half dosage that produced euphoria in the past and was BLASTED with euphoria. But I havent been able to get the euphoria ever since. Insteda, when I dose I do get a slight rush through my body, but not what I want.

Also, yesterday I was out running around town and all of a sudden I got a large energy boost out of the blue and felt great.

Im starting to think that the one day break rewired something in my brain, either that or the constipation is the problem.

Only time will tell - I cant quit as I will go through withdrawal.

Im starting to think this is a message from god to stop. See, my usage is therapeutic. Before I found the drug I was anti-social and I could not talk to people and this lead me to no success. After I found the drug I started to be the most outgoing person, I loved the new me, I started a business and I started to make a lot of money and new friends.

Im scared to go back to the old me without the drug, the me that is scared to answer the phone because I will get nervous and sound stupid.

 

[Fire&Water]

I do appreciate your advice. And this is something I considered. The wierd thing is I figured it would be a gradual thing, instead it was an overnight thing. Of coarse I had to up my dosage over time to reach the same level of euphoria but now no matter how much I take I get no euphoria. Another thing I have considered is the fact the I believe I am constipated and this is preventing the drug to get into my body properly.

As an example: I have had the same euphoria for years - just at higher dosages. Its the feeling I get from the drug. But like I said - I took one day off of oxy and replaced it with morphine and got the regular morphine high. The next day I got more oxy but this was the day I stopped getting euphoria.

Now, after days I stopped getting any euphoria but I have been "chasing the dragon" - just hoping it will come back. My reasoning behind this, as I previously stated, was beacuse in day 5 of the 'no euphoria' phase I did a half dosage that produced euphoria in the past and was BLASTED with euphoria. But I havent been able to get the euphoria ever since. Insteda, when I dose I do get a slight rush through my body, but not what I want.

Also, yesterday I was out running around town and all of a sudden I got a large energy boost out of the blue and felt great.

Im starting to think that the one day break rewired something in my brain, either that or the constipation is the problem.

Only time will tell - I cant quit as I will go through withdrawal.

"Im starting to think this is a message from god to stop". See, my usage is therapeutic. Before I found the drug I was anti-social and I could not talk to people and this lead me to no success. After I found the drug I started to be the most outgoing person, I loved the new me, I started a business and I started to make a lot of money and new friends.

Im scared to go back to the old me without the drug, the me that is scared to answer the phone because I will get nervous and sound stupid.

If you really want to stop, it needs to be because of your own freewill Not "messages" from entities...though you should be able to find people to help you through it - I suppose spirituality is okay to a point, but being able to quit comes down to the only real person that counts...yourself.

The same applies to your success when & if you are "over" the drugs...freewill.