Hi I started off with codeine 6o mg a few months ago and now 3oomg hardly give me any buzz. Dhc is a bit better, the most I tried is 22o mg, still not as euphoric as it used be. My mate gave me oxycontin 4omg pills. As I understand, its prolonged release tablets arent they? Will they get me high? How much should I take to stay safe but get high? What does extended release means in practice? Does it take more time to kick in?
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The extended release are not too great for euphoric effects. It's more of a steady dose over a longer amount of time. It's supposed to be 12 hours but there's studies out that claim that to be false. Keep in mind everyone is different but generally speaking If you're up to 220 on codeine taking a 40mg oxycontin shouldn't cause you any problems. Also keep in mind though you'd probably be fine talking 2 of them (80mg) you're going to raise your tolerance very quickly and that's a bad place to try to come back from. A few years from now (or less) you'll be really hating the fact that you even started down this road. Believe me this is much Easier said than done but you'll be much happier quitting now while you're not so far gone. It just gets worse and worse over time. That being said, if you're still going through with it I'd advise you to try one first, see how you feel, and if you're fine after about 1.5 to 2 hours then try another one if you wish. I've watched someone die from pills before and trust me it's not a great way to go. You can take too little as many times as you want, you can only take too much that you die horribly once. 
Remove the time-release layer (scrape it off), crush the tablet into a fine powder, wrap it up in a rizler skin or even better put it into a capsule and swallow. Oxy is very euphoric especially to someone who has never had it. It pisses all over codeine/dhc.
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Depending where you are (which country) this answer could certainly be different and I could just be wrong but I'm pretty sure most of them here (USA) are specially formulated to not release more at one time even when crushed.
as far as the "high" from it for sure there are some differences but personally I find myself much more able to function on oxycontin and I've never really went too high on codeine (maybe 100mg at most). Of course the instant release oxy is a lot more powerful but much shorter lasting. I suffer from severe depression so the euphoric feeling from oxy makes me feel alive and wanting to do stuff whereas other people just get knocked down from them (sleepy, nodding,ect...) it really feels like an upper to me like something from the amphetamine family.
Hey Nick and welcome to Bluelight! We are very happy to have you as part of the community! This is actually what I consider a fairly easy question. Firstly, in the future, you can use what is called an Opioid Conversion Calculator to do perform a pretty accurate dose conversion yourself. You don't even need us, which is great, because you can now arrive at a safe dosage estimate without having to wait around for one of us, but for now, I shall help
So, for most folks Codeine (3-Methylmorphine) is demethylated into Morphine at a rate of approximately 10%. This means, and again, this is for most people, that if you take 10mg of Codeine, you will end up with an equivalent dose of Morphine equaling approximately 1mg. In your case, we can now determine with ease that your 300mg of Codeine will metabolize in vivo to approximately 30mg Morphine.
Now that we have determined your Morphine Milligram Equivalent (MME), it will be easier for you to convert to Oxycodone. Every 1.5mg of Morphine is equal to approximately 1mg Oxycodone. This means that Morphine is 2/3 (66%) the potency of Oxycodone by the oral route. If you want to discuss different routes of administration, we can do that, but you're not likely to be able to process your Oxycodone into anything usable by anything other than the oral route.
So, now we know that if 30mg was your MME dosage, the equivalent dosage of Oxycodone would be approximately 20mg. This will be your starting point, my friend. You can use this as a benchmark, but as I always say, everybody is different so tread lightly. Not too complicated right? Here is the link for my go-to conversion calculator, although after a decade of junkiedom, I admittedly know most by heart
So, for most folks Codeine (3-Methylmorphine) is demethylated into Morphine at a rate of approximately 10%. This means, and again, this is for most people, that if you take 10mg of Codeine, you will end up with an equivalent dose of Morphine equaling approximately 1mg. In your case, we can now determine with ease that your 300mg of Codeine will metabolize in vivo to approximately 30mg Morphine.
Now that we have determined your Morphine Milligram Equivalent (MME), it will be easier for you to convert to Oxycodone. Every 1.5mg of Morphine is equal to approximately 1mg Oxycodone. This means that Morphine is 2/3 (66%) the potency of Oxycodone by the oral route. If you want to discuss different routes of administration, we can do that, but you're not likely to be able to process your Oxycodone into anything usable by anything other than the oral route.
So, now we know that if 30mg was your MME dosage, the equivalent dosage of Oxycodone would be approximately 20mg. This will be your starting point, my friend. You can use this as a benchmark, but as I always say, everybody is different so tread lightly. Not too complicated right? Here is the link for my go-to conversion calculator, although after a decade of junkiedom, I admittedly know most by heart
Okay, I actually thought that this was the most elementary part of the problem, so forgive me. Oxycontin Extended Release is intended to last twice as long, so just some simple math involved.
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back in the tail end of oxycontin -- when they had "op" indented on them, wouldn't crush, and turned to snot on contact with moisture -- i would ...
- use a razor to chop it up into as small of pieces as possible
- drop those pieces into an empty bottle (a piece of paper can be fashioned into a funnel)
- squeeze about 2/3rds of a lime into the bottle (adjusting according to the size of the lime)
- leave in the fridge overnight (try to wait a minimum of 18 to 24 hours)
- then pour a carbonated beverage like coca-cola into it
- shake the bottle until there was no more goo stuck to the bottom/sides
- drink (coke tastes pretty good with fresh lime)
i doubt this defeated the time release entirely, but oxy doesn't last long enough as is and it defeated the release at least to the extent that i used the same dose as oxycodone instant release. also, i would often take the the pill whole. which works fine. they do not actually last 12 hours. a tiny percent less is absorbed overall with the er versions (according to peer reviewed studies).
unless you 100 percent know your friend got this oxycontin from a pharmacy, i wouldn't take it. the only oxycontin i've seen for years has been fakes. these often contain fent, and you don't know how much. if it crushes, it's fake. at least in the united states, the diverted market has switched almost entirely to instant release oxycodone. these are also often fake and contain fent.
careful. oxycodone and fent are a different beast than codeine. much more likely to cause nausea and vomiting. however you take them, i would not start with two/80mgs. that dose might be fine if you don't tamper with the pills, but why risk it. if you use my above method, 80mg will be too much. light opiate doses feel good. especially with oxy, which has a lot of mood lift even at low doses. oxycodone is too expensive and desirable to vomit back up.
- use a razor to chop it up into as small of pieces as possible
- drop those pieces into an empty bottle (a piece of paper can be fashioned into a funnel)
- squeeze about 2/3rds of a lime into the bottle (adjusting according to the size of the lime)
- leave in the fridge overnight (try to wait a minimum of 18 to 24 hours)
- then pour a carbonated beverage like coca-cola into it
- shake the bottle until there was no more goo stuck to the bottom/sides
- drink (coke tastes pretty good with fresh lime)
i doubt this defeated the time release entirely, but oxy doesn't last long enough as is and it defeated the release at least to the extent that i used the same dose as oxycodone instant release. also, i would often take the the pill whole. which works fine. they do not actually last 12 hours. a tiny percent less is absorbed overall with the er versions (according to peer reviewed studies).
unless you 100 percent know your friend got this oxycontin from a pharmacy, i wouldn't take it. the only oxycontin i've seen for years has been fakes. these often contain fent, and you don't know how much. if it crushes, it's fake. at least in the united states, the diverted market has switched almost entirely to instant release oxycodone. these are also often fake and contain fent.
careful. oxycodone and fent are a different beast than codeine. much more likely to cause nausea and vomiting. however you take them, i would not start with two/80mgs. that dose might be fine if you don't tamper with the pills, but why risk it. if you use my above method, 80mg will be too much. light opiate doses feel good. especially with oxy, which has a lot of mood lift even at low doses. oxycodone is too expensive and desirable to vomit back up.
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^I'm glad that your medication is affordable and that your system of socialized medicine is functioning and treating you well, however, this is not really relevant to the topic at hand, being a Harm Reduction issue. Also, we don't allow the discussion of prices here on BL, so unfortunately I have to unapprove your post. If you have any questions, please feel free to PM me, but I would encourage you to also read the forum guidelines so you don't have to deal with this in the future.
So basically 4omg ER oxy will feel like 2omg IR but will last twice as long right? If I want it to be more intense but shorter, I can just do what evo4ever exрlained, yeah (for OC tabs)?
Also, I am not sure where these рills are from. My mate got them from the mate of his mate lol. How do I make sure they are not fake? Take a 1/4 first and see if I am okey in an hour?
Also, I am not sure where these рills are from. My mate got them from the mate of his mate lol. How do I make sure they are not fake? Take a 1/4 first and see if I am okey in an hour?
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Do your tabs say OC or OP?
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If sourced through the NHS, 40mg “MR” (Modified Release) will be either Napp Pharmaceuticals, or Longtec. Yellow biconvex, marked OC on one side, 40 on the other!!
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If you are unsure of anything just DM me buddy!!
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Yes JA we are still on old money here in England, no Purdue shake up or “Gel” compounds yet. and lucky enough to not have anything higher on the ladder than codeine, tainted with NSAIDs or para!!
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They’re To busy trying to get tax breaks by donating to all our art galleries ??