OxyContin, Oxycodone, Fentanyl, Dexamphetamine

[HabitualAllThat]

Hi Guys,

I am new to the forum so please be gentle - it actually took quite a while for me to get the courage to register. Anyway...

SWIM is 22, had an operation in 2010 that didn't go as planned and mistakes were made which has left SWIM with a chronic illness as a result. Anyway...


As a result of this event SWIM now has endless supplies of prescription medication in high volumes that SWIM at times overindulges in for recreational purposes. The drugs include Valium (prescribed for acute tetany), Lorazapam 2.5mg (sleep), Temazepam 10mg (sleep), Endone 5m (breakthrough pain), OxyContin 40mg (pain), Fentanyl Durogesic Patch 100mcg/hr, Dexamphetamine Sulphate 5mg (narcolepsy), SWIM also uses Meth at times, maybe 2-3 times a month but again, over indulges. SWIM's preferred ROA for meth is IV, however he always smokes it along with IV or at times just smokes (usually when in a social setting with close friends). Before being introduced to IV a few months ago SWIM plugged.


Anyway here are a few questions SWIM is curious about (apologies if any of these questions have been answered in previous threads).


- Is it worth plugging Endone as they're only 5mg, if so how many? Also is filtering through a coffee filter beneficial for this method? (Note: SWIM has a high tolerance to opiates)


- Can Fentanyl (Matrix - non gel) patches be plugged? SWIM has read on another threat that it is possible to place part of the patch in water and microwave it for... I've forgotten how long... Anyway apparently left behind is a Fentanyl solution which could be IV'd - SWIM doesn't want to IV just plug but presumable it would work either way if this method does truly work?


SWIM would really appreciate some information on this - there is so much out there but it is hard so sift through the BS.

 

[opi8]

ohhhhhhhhh,,, Nicotine, valium, vicodin, marijuana, ecstacy and alcohol. Nicotine, valium, vicodin, marijuana, ecstacy and alcohol. Dun dun dun, dun dun dun.. etc etc.

Endone's have a lot of filler, they're huge tablets for a tiny amount of oxy. Depending on how desperate I am, I usually just eat them, harm reduction wise - that's your best bet.

I assume fent can be plugged, I've never done it though. It will work either way, you are correct in that assumption.

I hope that this amount of prescribed drugs doesn't lead to addiction, because looking at the list, it's almost a dr shoppers wet dream. I know most doctors would not prescribe what is prescribed unless absolutely necessary (or you've found a great doctor and you should PM me!)

 

[Spackeradder]

Just eat the fivers. As the opi8 above me said, it's such a tiny amount that there's just really no point to doing them any other way.
All I know about fent is that you should be damn careful with it -- but I'm sure you know that.

Enjoy your ocean of downers, you lucky, lucky bastard. Also, we don't use SWIM here.

 

[teological]

I hate it when I read these sorts of threads. I actually salivate. My mouth gets watery from reading the amount of drugs (especially the opiates) you are prescribed. Fent is dangerous, the dose in which you feel good or death is too close to be worth it. The Oxy on the other hand...why don't you try to make the 40mg Oxy hit you instantly? Place it in an extremely acidic solution nonce you crush it as most you can and let it dissolve.

Sometimes I wonder, is it better to be in my situation in which I am not prescribed jack shit because I am healthy, or a situation like yours, where you are in chronic pain and are prescribed a lifetime supply of legal opiates in absolute abundance...."salivates again".

 

[slortaone]

itd be fun for a while with that arsenal of drugs but i doubt itll last. thats like the perfect cocktail.

stay well away from meth is all i can really give advice on, uve got enough narcotics legally prescribed to get you into trouble.

just be careful and really take a look at what you're taking on a daily basis. the last thing you need is illicit drugs on top.

edit - i looked over your post again, 3 different benzos along with fentanyl, oxycontin, endone and dexamphetamine? thats ridiculous, its overkill.

 

[HabitualAllThat]

Thanks to everyone for your invaluable input, the footing of your responses has really startled me - I was preparing myself for a barrage of criticism. So, thank you.

Still so perplexed with regards to a Fentanyl extraction process. You can read that the microwave process works, then there is this method that involves alcohol, and another that involves placing part of the patch on a spoon with water and heating with a lighter. When deciding on a method all this conflicting information complicates things. Example; why would someone go through the tedious, time consuming alcohol process when apparently there is no difference in the yield opposed to the microwave process. I thoroughly enjoy this forum, but there are people, so many of them that comment on topics that they have no knowledge about. I find this really frustrating as it clouds judgement and decision-making. I apologise about the rant, I get a little passionate on at times haha.

So does anyone have anything more to add that might be helpful to clear the cloud of confusion?

 

[opi8]

The fentanyl thing is dangerous, so anything I say could be implicated in a death to you or the many people who read anonymously. Therefore, I am not willing to speak about extracting fentanyl from a patch. I think you have enough to play with as it is and fentanyl is a pretty shitty recreational drug anyway.

 

[HabitualAllThat]

Opi8 - I really wish I had of listened to your warning, rather I let curiosity and stupidity get the better of me earlier in life and I shouldn't have brought up such a stupid, dangerous topic like Fentanyl Extraction. To anyone that does read this thread in the future, please, please, please, don't mess with this shit - here's my story, apologies it is a little long.
In November last year I had recently taken up Art (sketching) as a means of keeping busy as I'm chronically ill and haven't been able to do much since taking a leave of absence from work. On that morning I had a prescription for Fentanyl patches filled. As soon as I got home I cut patch in half, extracted the Fentanyl, and injected. It was a hot day, and stupidly I'd also put on a full patch transdermally, on my chest. I went for a walk in the local park and sketched for maybe an hour. From this point on I am only able to explain because of information people gave me.
I had walked in the door of my house at roughy 11am, went to the kitchen to make something to eat and I had fallen on the floor having gone into full Cardic Arrest. My housemate who was asleep on the couch was thankfully woken by my housemates dog who was barking 'different' to how she'd usually bark. While on the phone to the ambulance - along with CPR my friend was able to free my airway and get me breathing again. Two ambulances arrived, followed by an intensive care paramedic. I was intubated, and didn't regain consciousness for another 6 hours where I woke up with a tube in my throat in intensive care. The hospital put it down to my angina and one previous infarction. They will never really know the facts. I almost killed myself, infact I did kill myself. I have a very high opiate tolerance and this still happened. I will forever be the fool for ever reconsidering playing with fire again. Only a fool makes the same mistake twice.

 

[poledriver]

wow. lucky opi8 said what he said. dude, take care. sounds really dangerous.

 

[mostly-human]

I rarely comment on here, but just wanted to reiterate what somebody else has said already; Fentanyl is extremely dangerous when taken as anything other than those patches - those patches are slow-release, Fentanyl is an insanely strong opiate and many a tolerant opiate user has found themselves dead after IV'n that stuff.

I'm 30 now, started IV'n drugs when I was 17 and from my own experiences and curiosities with "what else can I IV", my guess is sooner or later you're going to try and mull up that patch, just - seriously - take head my friend. I've been 'dead' from opiates more times than I can count, lucky for good friends is all I can say.

 

[mostly-human]

edit: oh sorry, just read your post on it, you already did it. And 'died', that's what happens, scares you the first time, you wanna know the really scare thing? After a while you become completely desensitized to requiring CPR.

 

[20s50s100s]

Can anyone give me tips about first time OxyContin use? I'm takin it to feel a high what should MG should I use first time? I have 40 a MG pills! OP's "abuse proof" as they say meaning u can't crush em up

 

[HabitualAllThat]

edit: oh sorry, just read your post on it, you already did it. And 'died', that's what happens, scares you the first time, you wanna know the really scare thing? After a while you become completely desensitized to requiring CPR.

Thanks mostly-human for your comment. As I mentioned above, I do have a chronic illness and as a result suffer severe debilitating pain. I have well and truly learnt my lesson, I have made a promise to myself that I will never let curiosity get the better of me ever again - this drug is a no go zone for anything other than the prescribed instructions. I know I will keep this promise to myself, as I wrote the post above and as I write this one I'm overcome with emotion.

 

[HabitualAllThat]

Can anyone give me tips about first time OxyContin use? I'm takin it to feel a high what should MG should I use first time? I have 40 a MG pills! OP's "abuse proof" as they say meaning u can't crush em up

Hi 20s50s100s,
Before I begin, I will warn you though I'm sure you're already aware... These tablets you've acquired are addictive and accidental overdose can occur easily resulting in death.

Anyway I'm sure you're going to use them so I will give you a little advice. Forget about IV'ing them, it's not worth the trouble and the risk of filling your body with bill binders. There are other methods - you can remove the coating (this is the time mechanism) with a bit of water on your fingers and rubbing it off, let the tablet dry, cut a portion of it, crush it and snort. With regards to dosage, titration is a good idea. For a first time user IMO you'd portion a 40mg tablet into quarters, leaving you with four 10mg portions which is more than enough to give you a buzz. As always, take care my friend

 

[opi8]

& Sorry Habitualm the colour on the outside is not the time release mechanism, that's kinda silly to think.

 

[poledriver]

If they are a first time user shouldnt they just eat it?

I had some oxy once and hated it. It made me itchy and puke. Never again.

 

[Crankinit]

Anyway I'm sure you're going to use them so I will give you a little advice. Forget about IV'ing them, it's not worth the trouble and the risk of filling your body with bill binders. There are other methods - you can remove the coating (this is the time mechanism) with a bit of water on your fingers and rubbing it off, let the tablet dry, cut a portion of it, crush it and snort.

This is incorrect. The coating of oxycontin is not the time release mechanism, and removing it will not make your pills IR. The coating is purely to identify the pills. The time release mechanism is worked into the structure of the pill itself. With the regular oxycontin, crushing the pill into a fine powder will break this and give you an IR dose, but I'm fairly sure that doesn't work as well for the OP's.

 

[HabitualAllThat]

I apologise Crankinit, I should have done more research before replying. It's weird though, in the past when I was young and reckless I did remove the coating, crushed it and IV'd. Seemed to work... Though I won't be doing it again.

 

[Crankinit]

No worries man, just wanted to make sure people don't end up wasting their pills

 

[Wilsbag]

Im looking for some quick advice from some of you knowledgable people.

So 2 months ago I had major leg surgery after an accident and was prescribed endone 5mg and mersyndol forte for pain relief which I was mainly taking at night time- the time when pain was worse, also so I could enjoy the calming, euphoric feeling they gave me and sleep like a baby! I was only taking 2-3 (10-15mg oxy) orally at a time because any more would make me nauseous and I liked the effect I was getting, so no need to overindulge.
And last time I went to docs for a new script they prescribed Targin- 10mg oxy/5mg naproxen. I believe they're extended release which I found worked near as good anyway if I crushed 2 or 3 and swallowed in a rolling paper.

So now it's got to the stage when I don't need the pain relief as much and I haven't been to the docs to get another script for anything.
But now I just can't seem to settle down for the night and sleep!
If I do get some sleep it's for about an hour or two max and I'm wide awake again. This has been happening for near a week now- getting frustrated.

Also towards the night time I get kinda grumpy and short tempered with my girlfriend or whoever I'm around at the time.
I tried taking an average dose of codeine (no CWE, just 4 or 5 mersyndol), and smoking large amounts of weed among other get-to-sleep ideas, but nothing has worked.
So my question is, do you think that i have gained some kind of dependence to oxycodone this fast (2 months using 10-30mgs nearly nightly) or are my problems stemming from sitting around all day bored and not using any energy? (I'm usually quite active)
I would like to go back and get another script (preferably the endones) but if I'm developing a tolerance or dependence I'd rather hold off on it a little while to avoid creating a problem for myself.
Advice anyone?