Opioids Oxycodone time relase

[trip407]

There is probably a myriade of threads covering this topic, but i am asking this again.
I have this 80mg Oxycodone from winthrop, rather big.
If you crush them there are tiny beads in them. What is the quickest way to defeat this time relase?
I tried to disolve the crushed pill in water. But those small beads dissolve very slowly. I just want to take them orally because the is so much binders in them, they gel and everything. But i want them to hit quick like instant release pills.

 

[kharizma]

There is probably a myriade of threads covering this topic, but i am asking this again.
I have this 80mg Oxycodone from winthrop, rather big.
If you crush them there are tiny beads in them. What is the quickest way to defeat this time relase?
I tried to disolve the crushed pill in water. But those small beads dissolve very slowly. I just want to take them orally because the is so much binders in them, they gel and everything. But i want them to hit quick like instant release pills.

Mmmm...not gonna happen unless you plug my friend. And that's still a slim chance but possible. Definitely nothing you can do orally about the time release.

For me I have both ER and IR oxycontin/oxycodone. I realized if my stomache is satisfied (not full and not empty) my ER hits quicker similar to the IR. I always wait 1 hour after a meal to take it.

 

[trip407]

It must be possible to dissolve somehow. Otherwise how can the body absorb the oxycodone. I have basic chemicals at hand if that helps.

 

[downerhead]

Just take it orally.That time release shit is engineered into the pill and there is really no way around it,especially since they changed OC to keep people from shooting them.Good thing you have an 80 because the oxy is released so slowly those never seemed to do very much.That's why I always thought OCs kinda sucked and could never see what all the fuss was about.I've heard of a method called "crisping" that some people use to shoot the new OCs.It involves dry cooking it somehow.Not sure exactly how they do it but maybe that will give you a search term so you can find instructions from someone who does know.Not telling you to shoot it but if that method allows people to crush and dissolve them in water for iv use it may help eating it kick in better.Sorry,that's all I know.

 

[MrPanda27]

Technically the pills are called Oxycontin and not Oxycodone. Oxycodone is the name of the substance however all Oxycodone is instant release. Oxycontin s the engineered substance that is time release. As the previous poster stated, it is created that way and there is no safe way outside of a lab to get rid of the time release. Just sell it for some Oxycodone. Don't do it, trust me..I have many years of opiate experience.

 

[Dr_Drowsy]

In my opinion, you're better off just crushing it as best you can then taking it orally. The ordeal of defeating the time release won't be worth the effort if you're taking it orally anyways.
However, if you're really just a go getter, I have some experience with the "crisping" procedure referred to by downerhead. I've only used this process for the purpose of IV'ing the similar ER oxymorphone. Therfore I can't guarantee it will work for your ER oxy. But here's how i did it:
-Remove the colored outer coating(wipe off with wet paper towel)
-Grind pill into fine powder(I found that using a metal nail file to slowly grind it down worked very well. Most other ways leave you stuck with large chunks that fling across the room when you try to cut them smaller with a blade)
-Place powder into a ceramic or glass dish, bowl, or container of some sort.(I used a small shallow glass bowl and spread the powder evenly across the bottom to increase the surface area of powder that is in contact with the glass)
-Put the container in the microwave for about 5 mins.(Give or take a min or two on this part. But yes I do mean MINUTES not SECONDS. Just keep a close eye on your powder and see next step.)
-Upon removal from microwave, there should now be some brownish residue left on the dish.(Use a rag or mitten to remove because the dish WILL BE VERY HOT!)
-Place the dish (along with the residue) into the freezer for a few minutes to cool.
-Remove from freezer and scrape up the brown residue with a razer blade. It will now dissolve nicely into water, giving it a brown hue much like heroin. Now you can take it orally for instant release.
Be careful though, if you're used to taking this drug in its ER form, you may not be prepared for the potency of the entire dose at once. Use your best judgement and good luck.

 

[trip407]

I am not entirely sure if we talk about the same time relase mechanism. I can can crush my pills just fine, but in the pills are small beads that are impossible to break down. somethink like this but pressed inside a relatively large pill.

The best way still for me is crush them and dissolving them in boiling slightly acidic water.

I have also a small mortar and pestel and will try this next. If this does not help i try microwave.

I am also open for use of chemicals, i have basic chemical education that is no problem for me.

Note: These pills are from central EU, not US

 

[Screaming_Skull]

Huh, I was wondering because I have never seen an Oxycodone time release with beads in it in the US...the onese here there is the crisping method, which I tried one time with a 30mg one but failed and the plate in the microwave broke in half because I got it too hot afterward I put it in the freezer for a second then just put it into a cup of soda and gupled it down, guese I was lucky because it felt like I just had 30mg of instant release oxycodone, was so relieved that day..The other way is to cut into tiny pieces and let it soak in soda for a while and it turns it into a instant realease that you can just take orally...I have no idea what to tell you about these, maybe try the soda method and it will dissolvve the beads like it does with the ones in the US...

 

[downerhead]

I would think crushing the beads in your mortar and pestal into a powder,then following the crisping method described by DR_Drowsy would then work.If it doesn't,I suppose you could just eat the resultant residue/sludge or whatever so you don't completely waste it.If you have a fairly decent supply of them it wouldn't hurt to at least test it with a singl one and see how it turns out.Thanks to DR_Drowsy for the info on how to do this method.If I get my hands on any OCs in the future I now have a way of making them IR.Do you or anyone else know if the reultant product could be sniffed?Perhaps re-freezing it if it's kinda runny/mushy and not a powder or by residue did you mean that it was some kind of powder?If I were going to do the soda method described by Screaming_Skull I would crusg the beads a few at a time with a pair of needle-nosed pliers,holding it over a cup or some other container so none spilled.I would also substitute the soda for a sparkling wine because the ethanol would probably dissolve the product faster and better.Or,even better,some liquor(I would use 100 proof or higher to get the most out of the solvent properties of the alcohol).If the fizziness of the soda helps with dissolving it I would add just a splash of club soda or tonic water.Use a small ammount of alcohol if you are worried about increased respiratory depression from mixing the opiate with alcohol.

 

[Dr_Drowsy]

The brown residue left behind after crisping is dry, it's a bit melted to the bowl or plate but if you just scrape it off with a blade it sort of crumbles up like crystals. I've personally never tried to sniff it but I think it would probably work. Do keep in mind, the method I shared does not REMOVE any of the ER ingredients, it just renders the gelling feature inert. So whichever way you choose to use it, you're still taking those inactive chemicals into your body.

Also, In response to Screaming_Skull's issue with the plate breaking, if you're using a thin or fragile dish, it may be more advantageous to either let the plate cool at room temperature or put it into the fridge instead, since the shock of sticking a hot plate into the freezer could crack it. The freezer step doesn't do anything chemically to my knowledge, it's just the fastest way to get it cool enough to prepare for use. In addition, I tried to explain in my instructions that 5 mins in the microwave was a generalized estimate. The exact time needed to crisp the pill varies somewhat depending on the power output of your microwave, the size of the dish used, the amount of powder on the dish, etc. So to be more clear; Set the time in the microwave for about 5 mins, but be sure to WATCH the powder, you're just waiting for as much powder as possible to turn brown, any time in the microwave after the powder is "crisped" is unnecessary. Thanks, and be safe.

 

[trip407]

I have now powdered the pill in a cheap mortar (3€) with a pestel. It was a quick and easy task. After this i put it in a glass with some water and put in a microwave. It will result in a light milky liquid. After further dilution with cold water i just drank it. It hit quicker and harder this way. But i had still to wait for at least half an hour. Within an hour i feel full effects.

Its a cheap and quick way to increase the effectivness of this pill.