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Oxy Withdrawal really bad??

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I have been doing opiates daily for a few months now, and before that, occasionally for a few months. I have been taking between 40-80 mg daily (snorting) of oxycontin crushed up, and before that, I was doing around 24 mg of Oxymorph contin crushed up. I need to get off these because they feel good but I just can't afford to do them any more. It's costing me both financially and mentally. I don't have any experience with opiate withdrawal, only benzo withdrawal, which I didn't find too bad. I have around 3 mg of Clonazepam that I am going to be taking over the next week, but I have absolutely no opiates around. Is this going to be really rough? I haven't been on them for that long so I am hoping to be able to go to work and function normally for the next week without anything. Help me out!
 
Opiate withdrawals are not fun at all. With that being said, it's actually not too difficult to overcome them. I stopped on a 150mg a day Oxycodone habit, cold turkey. I didn't have any bud, nor did I have any thing to ease the symptoms. What worked for me, and did wonders, was actually quite simple. And I swear by this. Soak you're feet in a bucket of hot water. Simple as that. It got rid of the cold sweats big time. The first 4 days are the worst. By day 5 you start to feel like you're getting better. Expect to have a rough time sleeping the first 3 days. Day 4 is a little easier, but the first week as a whole is a struggle.
 
It's not going to be as bad as some withdrawal. I would advise that you acquire Subutex (Buprenorphine) pills and taper.

I would write:

#10 Subutex N2 (2mg.) Buprenorphine QAM
#10 Diazepam (10mg.) PRN
#30 Clonidine (0.3mg.) PRN
 
^I seriously don't think you're going to need 2mg of bupe to 'taper' from 40-80mg of oxycodone.

OP, use loperamide if the withdrawals are too much and you need some relief. Start with 10-14mg and work your way up after a few hours have passed if you need to. It will also help with the bowel issues. I find it really relieves most of the physical symptoms, but it does take a little while to start working.

Benzos will help of course, and clonidine does as well. But I really don't think you're going to need buprenorphine all.

In fact, in my opinion, that would be seriously counter-productive.
 
^I seriously don't think you're going to need 2mg of bupe to 'taper' from 40-80mg of oxycodone.
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2mg.
1.8mg.
so on....

I'd cut pieces of pill and use as needed until symptoms reside.

EDIT: I'd write loperamide for Medicare to pay for it... I misread the dosage.
 
Yes, that is indeed the concept of tapering.

He still shouldn't use buprenorphine to taper. Just take loperamide as needed. It's OTC if you're in the US, and much cheaper than whatever buprenorphine source you will come across. (legal or not.)

Not only that, but it will be much easier to measure each dose precisely and step down gradually if he did indeed wish to taper instead of just taking it as he needs it, because of the 2mg doses loperamide is dispensed in.
 
Oxide said:
^I seriously don't think you're going to need 2mg of bupe to 'taper' from 40-80mg of oxycodone.

OP, use loperamide if the withdrawals are too much and you need some relief. Start with 10-14mg and work your way up after a few hours have passed if you need to. It will also help with the bowel issues. I find it really relieves most of the physical symptoms, but it does take a little while to start working.

Benzos will help of course, and clonidine does as well. But I really don't think you're going to need buprenorphine all.

In fact, in my opinion, that would be seriously counter-productive.
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Agree 100% Loperamide has been my savior these past few of days. I took it four or five hours before going to bed and not only did I sleep a lot better, I would wake up feeling pretty decent. Loperamide FTW for sure.
 
^Yeah, loperamide has really helped me out before as well. There is a huge thread on loperamide here. Check it out for more information on the subject, OP. You shouldn't need a huge amount, start around 10mg and see how you feel in 2-3 hours. It does take a couple of hours to start working, a small drawback compared to the benefits it can have in a time of need.

Also, try to use the smallest possible effective dose of the clonazepam. That way you can stretch them out as long as possible, since you only have a few. Try 0.5mg taken a little bit before the loperamide.
 
Thanks guys! I actually have some loperamide in my cabinet. I didn't know this was effective in opiate withdrawal. I want to get through this so I am not reliant on opiates to get me through the day.
 
Loperamide is still a full-agonist opioid (which is of course why it works so well.), but it doesn't really cross the Blood-Brain Barrier; only negligible amounts actually make it into the brain. However, it does work peripherally. So it still alleviates most of the physical symptoms.

It works for at least 24 hours IME, so you shouldn't need to re-dose with it more often than that. You don't want to accidentally pick up a loperamide habit instead, so make sure to try and use it somewhat sparingly, you should try to go as long as you can (without needlessly suffering, of course.) before you take it again. Try to take less and less each time you do take it.

Make sure to drink plenty of water as well, eat as much as you can stomach when you can stomach it and remember that a hot shower will always make you feel at least slightly better, however short-lived that feeling might be.
 
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shady and Oxide have given great advice. Loperamide is very effective for withdrawals. Get yourself some vitamins, minerals (the good stuff, go to a health food store). Aleve (naproxen) is an OTC NSAID drug and is effective for headaches and other aches and pains you may get from withdrawals.

Using that dose of buprenorphine to taper would take a long time and, while it does make WDs the easiest to deal with...it is still a CNS-active opiate and you can get addicted to it just like you did with oxy.

Good luck!
 
while it does make WDs the easiest to deal with...it is still a CNS-active opiate and you can get addicted to it just like you did with oxy.
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I suppose I've just never wanted to experience WD for no reason; never have, never will. I will stand corrected. OP should definitely utilize loperamide; not bupe -- especially in a harm reduction standpoint.
 
It shouldn't be as bad as some opiate withdrawals. Take lots of warm showers and baths, use loperamide, and an NSAID for aches, and the Klonipin you have as well of course.
 
Oh shit hahha. my mans said... "Yes.. that "IS" the concept of tapering" haha.. but still not with Bupe... yo if I was coming off of 80 mg of oxycodone.. god forbid, I hope I never have to but if I was... I would absolutely need some damn Subs good god.. Loperamide for 80 of oxy.. I mean it worked fine for the physical side of tramadol wd at around 10-15 mg combined with a butalbital in the morning.. but damn I think I would definitely want some kind of backup net other than Lope on 60-80 mg of Oxycodone. inmho
 
As others have said, loperamide is a great tool, especially if you are going to have to work. It will eliminate the diarrhea completely and will really help with the physical symptoms. That said, if it were me I'd go to a doc, cop to the habit and get written for a week medical leave. I tapered from 500mg a day oxy to 40mg, then went cold turkey. It sucked balls. I definitely wouldn't have been able to do my job in the state I was in.
 
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