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oxy versus heroin

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RJW

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Can someone tell me if the feeling, intensity, and duration of action of oral oxy at 40mgs is similiar to nasal or smoked heroin. If not what are the differences. I do feel that oxy has been unfairly demonized by many. I used 40-60 mgs twice weekly for about 6 weeks with no ill effects. When I ran out I did not feel any "withdrawl" type symptoms from my use. I did enjoy the mellow "happy feeling" though.
Thanks, rjw
 
40mg OxyContin snorted is much like your average dose of heroin snorted.... but to compare the ORAL effects of Oxy to SMOKED or SNORTED heroin isn't really accurate - of course the difference is the lack of the rush..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
PhreeX, Thanks for the reply! Well I tried both snorting as well as chewing the tabs and both seemed to feel equal in effect. Then again, my nasal passages are not exactly the best due to previous coke usage which I gave up a couple of years ago. So, from your answer I could assume that the H would have a better high esp if smoked? Would it last 3-4 hours as the OC?
Thanks!
 
Anything smoked is going to be more intense obviously so there is no way to compare smoked heroin to intranasal or oral oxy use. Smoking smack will be more intense and obviously hit you MUCH faster than snorted and MUCH MUCH MUCH faster than ingested.
With smoking comes more of a rush and fast onset, but it doesn't last nearly as long, at least in my experience. I have yet to blow heroin, but I have blown enough oxy and the oxy high lasts like you said about 2-4 hours. It stays strong for about 30mins to 1 hour and then slowly begins to dissipate. This is the peak of the experiece, you will feel drousy and itchy for a few more hours probably.
With heroin you get more bang for your buck than OCs obviously. OC is basically like rich mans smack and is much more clandestine unless you have a really solid hookup or a rat face granny you can jack them from.
I aint the mackdaddy of opiates like PhreeX here
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...but I hope that help.
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Honestly, and this is just me, I enjoy oxycodone more then heroin - now if you are comparing a snorted 20mg OC and a rig full of mexican mud (black tar) - thats a no brainer, but if you give me the choice of say, a 40mg OC or a packet of good heroin, I am taking the OC ... I will accept that agood part may be the psychological aspect of knowing you're getting "pharmacutical" vs "street" ..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
Thanks again for the responses. Ok, I am curious about this because I picked up 30 OC 80's that I used as an end of the day "treat" twice weekly with my wife. As I said previously we both quit coke a few years ago because it was disrupting our lives too much even at a 16th a weekend. The OCs were aquired as a trade from a friend who did not want them. We have enjoyed the OC because unlike coke there is no craving for more and the "high" was fun. We limited ourselves to twice weekly to avoid any dependencey problems. I do not have access to more and so I thought that H might be a substitute. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks, rjw
 
If you can't get more OCs, then yes, heroin would be your best substitute. It's cheap compared to OCs and the high is VERY similar. So when ya run out, just go grab a wrap of some Final Fantasy like our man PhreeX here. The only problem for me is, where I live, I can only get black tar which means I HAVE TO smoke it or bang it and I don't bang shit so....
BTW PhreeX, how do you go about banging tar? You add saline solution and heat in a spoon until it liquifies?
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Heroin works as a sub for Oxy, and vice-versa...
How to you bang black tar? Just add water and heat... some say you need some type of acid to break it down, but I have never had any problem with just heat and water.... shit smokes AWESOME!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
Yeah I like smoking but it TASTES LIKE SHIT...goddamn I can recreate the taste so vividly in my mind...YUUUUUCKKK.
Do you prefer smoking cheeba over snorting powder? Also which type of smack would you say is CLEANER? Tar or powder? I would think tar because it doesn't seem like it could be cut, at least not as easily as powder.
Thanks PhreeX
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[This message has been edited by EvilSpaceMonk (edited 04 October 2001).]
 
RJW, compared to snorting or injecting, smoking heroin is more or less a waste. I've smoked really pure raw and I've smoked your crappy quanine street shit.
I would definantly snort before I smoked heroin.
Not that smoking heroin is bad or anything, but I just think you get a lot more out of it via other methods.
 
Smoking is a VERY wastefull way to take the drug - the only time I smoke is when I can't inject or snort, the only instance is tar heroin that I don't feel comfortable injecting - sometimes the tar you get is simply so un-refined that it either doesn't cook up good or I don't want to put it in my veins.. in these instances, I smoke it!
But hell no, if you give me the choice of powder or tar, it would have to be EXCEPTIONAL tar for me to opt for that!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
wel, i have taken both OXY and HEROIN, and i must say i liked the OXY much better...when i started taking OC's, i felt very alive and in a great mood...i had limitless energy, and felt just great..i shot some H a few weeks back(2 dimebags worth throughout 6-7 hours) and i rec3eived a strong head buzz right after shooting the H, then about an hour later, the head buzz was gone, and i started to get very tired and drowsy..i wasnt still feeling the high that much either..i had to take some ephedrine to wake my ass up..although i do remember not CRAVING another shot of H or anything for a good while..i didnt need anything for a good 6-8 hours after my initial shot of H....
so, IMO, OXY is much better than HEROIN..OC's give much more of an energetic, happy high where as H makes ya really mellow and tired...
the good thing about H is the cost..it is much cheaper than OXY, and i dont care how good of a hookup ya have for OC's..
 
Bry, you were talking about heroin injections being short lived. What I started doing now is taking a shot then snorting a dime. Snorting it is much less intense, but last quite a bit longer for me.
Tonight I had 20mgs of oxycodone via Percocet before doing my smack. Excellent combination.
 
I really don't know about calling Oxycontin a sub for smack. I have a big tolerance for OC, so maybe I'm a little biased, but Oxycontin and heroin are totally different.
Mg for mg, you can argue all you want, but I'd much rather have something stronger than OC such as smack of IV morphine any day of the week. Yes, there is a cross tolerance for this opiate class of drugs, but there is a reason that heroin was made schedule 1 several decades ago. It is much more euphoric and is a better high that Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, etc.
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Better high is argueable...I think both drugs are equally wonderful. If I were given the drug and not told which substance it was and I had to guess after doing it, I don't think I would be able to differentiate between the two.
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I would take a fat shot of heroin over an oxy anyday. Dilaudid, however, is my absolute favorite.
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Yes, hydromorphone takes the cake, as long as you can find enough of it to give you a good high.
Just make sure that you IV it.
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