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Oxy RP 15 mg oxycodone by Rhodes mfg

jerseyshark

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Hi all, my new pharmacy had theses 15 mg oxycodone by Rhodes mfg yesterday. I usually get the oxycodone made by mallinrodt or kv tech, and I'm seeing awful reviews of these RP 15 oxycodone by Rhodes. White, oblong with RP 15 imprint. I took one this morning about and hour ago with little effect. What are your thoughts on this product? Is it really crap? Would they actually be allowed to sell this if it was? Please chime in with your experience with Rhodes RP 15 mg oxycodone. Thank ya'all!
 
You can absolutely sell bullshit drugs that don’t work through the pharmacy model. Everything might check out pharma wise but for some reason some manufacturers processes are just better at positive effects than others. Even different mg formulations can be incredibley more satisfying. Like five milligram blue boys compared to 15 mg red head amphetamines. There’s no true difference. But these products exist on a molar scale as well. They exist as a mixture of racemic salts beyond that. These subtleties can produce wildly different effects. The blue boys are just so fucking clean. While the red heads are just really fucking good.

With opiates I’ve gotten speckled red hydros that were total trash and these pure white hydros that tasted so bitter and kind of crumbled that were just fire euphoria. Then other hydros with a strong binder and a smooth surface that would force a bow at 20mg. Just a great nod.


I’ve never had the courage to actually request a manufacturer. In the states so I feel like I’m on the verge of being incarcerated every time I go to the pharmacy. Try to yes sir yes mam thank you for the medicine. Have a good day and be give as fast as I can.

Fucking hate the healthcare system. Feel like a fucking criminal
 
You can absolutely sell bullshit drugs that don’t work through the pharmacy model. Everything might check out pharma wise but for some reason some manufacturers processes are just better at positive effects than others. Even different mg formulations can be incredibley more satisfying. Like five milligram blue boys compared to 15 mg red head amphetamines. There’s no true difference. But these products exist on a molar scale as well. They exist as a mixture of racemic salts beyond that. These subtleties can produce wildly different effects. The blue boys are just so fucking clean. While the red heads are just really fucking good.

With opiates I’ve gotten speckled red hydros that were total trash and these pure white hydros that tasted so bitter and kind of crumbled that were just fire euphoria. Then other hydros with a strong binder and a smooth surface that would force a bow at 20mg. Just a great nod.


I’ve never had the courage to actually request a manufacturer. In the states so I feel like I’m on the verge of being incarcerated every time I go to the pharmacy. Try to yes sir yes mam thank you for the medicine. Have a good day and be give as fast as I can.

Fucking hate the healthcare system. Feel like a fucking criminal
Thank you. It is amazing how screwed up our pharmacy system is in the U.S. It's as every pharmacist/assistant-help thinks they are a doctor or FBI agent , LOOKING for ways NOT to fill your oxycodone! CHECK THIS OUT: I got a call back from a local CVS pharmacist here in S.FLA where I live the other day. I had gone to a different CVS closer to my house to get my oxy 15mg script from my pain
 
Thank you. It is amazing how screwed up our pharmacy system is in the U.S. It's as every pharmacist/assistant-help thinks they are a doctor or FBI agent , LOOKING for ways NOT to fill your oxycodone! CHECK THIS OUT: I got a call back from a local CVS pharmacist here in S.FLA where I live the other day. I had gone to a different CVS closer to my house to get my oxy 15mg script from my pain
Thank you very much! Disregard my first message. It got cut off acccidently before I could finish. I agree on your yes sir, yes ma'am when picking up a script. I feel like I'm on trial, get in, get out! The pharmacy system is definitely screwed up in the U.S.!
 
We should collectively strive to not use cvs. I feel like the whole systemic American healthcare system is suffering a sort of Stanford Prison Experiment where the guards are represented by the FDA and DEA imprisoning doctors and causing a shock through the system where now the entire healthcare machine is behaving as if they are the guards now. Enforcing people’s suffering and seeming to become more and more willing to exercise their powers of denials if necessary medicine. Treating everyone as drug seeking even though the entire practice of medicine is built out of the practical application of opioids. Everything prior to opium was just mumbonjumbo. And we’re criminalized for seeking the most basic type of care. Accûunture. Physical therapy. Specialists. Smile and nod. Pray they don’t think you want drugs when you’re literally there so they’ll give you drugs. Like what the guck are they doing without prescribing drugs. Fucking thoughts and prayers?
 
It's a broken health care system. Big pharma rules through lobbyists efforts. Why is kratom illegal is some states? Because big pharma can't make a buck on it. They want us to take their oxycodone, etc because it costs penny's per pill to mfg, and it's a seller's market. Big profits. But, CVS is really f---ed up. The pharmacist wanted me to leave my oxy script with them on Thursday, while they contact my pain doc office to get my diagnosis codes? They also wanted to profile me, and then maybe next Wednesday, if I checked out, they might order oxycodone for me to pickup on Friday? WTF? Next f---ing Friday? Are you kidding....Diagnostic codes? This was required per the gestapo pharmacist because although I have had scripts filled at CVS, none were sched II...OMG..You'd think I was trying to buy a handgun in the 🇬🇧. The smirk on the mortally obese pharmacist confirmed his enjoyment in pulling the strings as the puppeteer. He relished in me leaving my script in hopes they might fill it in 8 day's. "Can you just make a copy of my script ". I'll need it to inquire at other pharmacys if my oxy is obtainable, and I can't if you have my script. "NO", he practically yelled in my ear. Obviously the thought of me going to a competitor was like I pulled off one of his fingernails in his psyche. How dare I. Especially since he was "doing me a favor", right? Who the f--k did I think I was, strutting into his house, asking for a sched II drug without being waterboarded for personal information ! Does the Hippa law really exist? I guess it does not when trying to fill a script.
I decided to pass to the pharmacist chagrin. Went to Publix where the 16 year old girl working the counter told be I'd be having oxycodone by 🍽 dinner. She was right. Unfortunately the pills were wrong, but, since I had these awful things once before, and my soul was worn down , I folded, and accepted the rp 15 by Rhodes pharma, knowing I would not be getting the pain relief I was accustomed to by mallkrindot. Another month of shitty medicine. They couldn't order me another brand. Why would they? This stuff is as cheap as it gets. That's what this country is about.
 
I don't know which country you live in, but in developed first world nations the manufacture and quality of Pharmaceuticals are tightly controlled and subject to strict government oversight. That isn't to say occasionally mistakes happen but this is rare.

I have long heard other drug users claim X brand of drug is underdosed or weak or something similar. The fact of the matter is the equipment used to manufacture tablets is tightly calibrated and not likely to make drastically underdosed tablets. If a company where regularly making tablets labelled as "15mg" but contained less, they would very quickly find themselves on the FDA's (or whatever drug regulatory agency your countries has) shit list.

What ive just said all makes perfect sense when you consider what's as stake. Some people require medicine to live and if a company was selling weak medicines this could be a serious public health issue. It's in the companies best interest to manufacture genuine correctly dosed medicine.

I'm not sure why you feel like these tablets are underdosed but I have a suspicion it's due to a bias of some sort. Our minds are powerful things. If I gave someone 10 Sandoz branded 5mg Diazepam and said "hey this Sandoz brand is weak! They're only really 2mg each" I would bet a substantial amount of money that they'd agree with me after taking them even though they are infact truly 5mg.
 
I don't know which country you live in, but in developed first world nations the manufacture and quality of Pharmaceuticals are tightly controlled and subject to strict government oversight. That isn't to say occasionally mistakes happen but this is rare.

I have long heard other drug users claim X brand of drug is underdosed or weak or something similar. The fact of the matter is the equipment used to manufacture tablets is tightly calibrated and not likely to make drastically underdosed tablets. If a company where regularly making tablets labelled as "15mg" but contained less, they would very quickly find themselves on the FDA's (or whatever drug regulatory agency your countries has) shit list.

What ive just said all makes perfect sense when you consider what's as stake. Some people require medicine to live and if a company was selling weak medicines this could be a serious public health issue. It's in the companies best interest to manufacture genuine correctly dosed medicine.

I'm not sure why you feel like these tablets are underdosed but I have a suspicion it's due to a bias of some sort. Our minds are powerful things. If I gave someone 10 Sandoz branded 5mg Diazepam and said "hey this Sandoz brand is weak! They're only really 2mg each" I would bet a substantial amount of money that they'd agree with me after taking them even though they are infact truly 5mg.
I reside in the sunshine state: FL, the endless ☀️ summer. I hold a bachelor of science degree in business from a major university, and was a VP at a large American based bank. So, yes, I do live in these United States. I agree with your perception of the American prescription drug industry. Why on earth would a company dare mfg a product it claims to be say 15 mg oxycodone, as in my illustration, and only put 3mg of oxycodone active ingredient? Most certainly as you alluded, government oversight and/or consumer watchdog groups would pick up from consumers, doctors who prescribe medications, etc , that a problem exists with oxycodone mfg by " company X", and the FDA, at minimum would initiate a probe, and send investigators to the physical plant that is mfg that product to immediately assess the product in question authenticity for purity, and it's adherence to the mfg guidelines that assure it is indeed making say 15mg unadulterated oxycodone pills. Afterwards, some of its pills would be studied by groups of scientists and random blind testing done, like you mentioned, giving say, one group of 10 patients 15mg of Rhodes oxy, and another group of ten people just a sugar pill, but telling them they are receiving a 15 mg oxycodone pill my Rhodes mfg.
Companies like Rhodes pharma mfg medication that people take for all sorts of diagnosis; some are taken by people whose daily lives depend on its performance , and any deviance in quality could put them at risk of an array of complications , even possible death. Compliance is a given in the United States, U.K. and as you mentioned in first world countries globally. You can't make a product and call it 15mg oxy, and put 3mg of oxy in it without getting caught. Not if you would be caught. Just when. It's inevitable. Personally, I have been in pain management since 2015 thereabouts, and have received oxycodone mfgd by many different companies. The mind as you said is a powerful "thing", no question about that. That's why they do these blind testing with 2 groups of people: one would get the "real" medicine as prescribed; the other group just a placebo, but told they indeed are getting the "real" medicine . In my approximately 10 years of being treated by different, highly educated, pain doctors, with my lower back being treated, I can most certainly, without a shadow of a doubt, tell you that 15mg oxycodone pills, by different mfgs, affect me/my pain level differently. Most of the time I have taken mallinkrodt 15 mg oxycodone pills. Other months I have received Kv tech ( K8 imprint) 15 mg pills. Both of which, within 15-20 minutes of taking one pill orally, turn off my lower back pain( which in intractable). Most recently,(Jan 2024) the pharmacy I have been using for the last several years to refill my monthly oxycodone, moved to a new location 60 miles north. Since their move, the DEA, suspended their ability to get most controlled meds, and ALL Schedule 2 meds, which includes oxycodone. So, I have been playing musical pharmacies since Jan 1st because of shortages of oxycodone, or pharmacy's restrictions on any new patients, or any number of reasons I've been told why they could not fill my monthly oxycodone prescription. I have been forced to look all over FL most months to find my meds, because some pharmacys told me they will fill my script, but only this one time because of restrictions. I have received these Rhodes pills only 3 times in my 10 years of being in pain management and twice this summer. I have compared the inactive ingredients between Rhodes and Mallinkrodt, and they differ. Accordingly I have been told by doctors, pharmacist, and others, that the active ingredient in all generic pills must be the same, but the inactive ingredients can vary. In my opinion, that's why the Rhodes 15 mg oxycodone pills do not work for me, nearly as well as others I have taken over 10 years. We touched on the mind, and how psychological things affect the way a pill may perform. The Rhodes pharma pills I'm sure meet all government, etc requirements, but, for me, and many many others, they don't give nearly the level of pain relief as others in the same category.
 
Sidenote:

Fuck yourself you stupid fucking bitch if you EVER THINK ILL SIT THERE AND DIE WITH YOU WHILE YOU LIIIIEEE PERVERTED FUCKING LIES ABOUT IT!@@ CALL ME NAMES UGLY BITCH FUCK YOU AND MY FATHER AND OFFICE BIT H
 
Got some RP10s and they definitely are weaker. Been taking double and still barely feel it. I thought I got some pressed bullshit. I call around and request manufacturers all the time. I could care less what pharmacy thinks of me. I tell them I’m allergic to the dye in some brands. Will never get Rhodes again.
 
Got some RP10s and they definitely are weaker. Been taking double and still barely feel it. I thought I got some pressed bullshit. I call around and request manufacturers all the time. I could care less what pharmacy thinks of me. I tell them I’m allergic to the dye in some brands. Will never get Rhodes again.
That's my experience too. They cannot possibly contain 13 mg of active oxycodone in my 15mg pills. The mallinkrodt brand was fine, but Rhodes pharma is no good and someone needs to yank their chain. They mfg in Rhodes island, so they shouldn't be to hard to check out. I know, and you and countless others know, their pills are useless and need government oversight.
 
This is the worst brand oxycodone. My pharmacy made the mistake of ordering it years ago and everyone complained. Now they only buy Mallinckrodt or Activas K-9. Personally, I like Mallinckrodrt better for a few reasons.

I remember seeing online recently a few guys in the comment section were praising RP-30's straight up and down like 6-o'clock. I knew they did not have a legit Rx. Anyone that is dependent on Roxicodone (Oxycodone HCl) wants nothing to do with Rhodes. Rhodes is the defining example of taking full advantage of the law allowing generics to contain 20% less of active ingredient.

The same is true with comparing Sandoz generic vs Watson generic -- Fentanyl 100mcg patches. Sandoz's 100mcg has 16.4mg and Watson has 10mg on the 100mcg patches. I found this out the hard way. No one can adjust to a 6,4mg drop and will spend damn near 4 weeks in premature withdrawals while wearing the patch.

In the beginning of 2025, Oxycodone HCl was on backorder on the East Coast. I was forced to source my Rx in another state and all Walgreens had was Rhodes 30mg. They absolutely suck, like trying to suck a golf ball through a straw.
 
This is the worst brand oxycodone. My pharmacy made the mistake of ordering it years ago and everyone complained. Now they only buy Mallinckrodt or Activas K-9. Personally, I like Mallinckrodrt better for a few reasons.

I remember seeing online recently a few guys in the comment section were praising RP-30's straight up and down like 6-o'clock. I knew they did not have a legit Rx. Anyone that is dependent on Roxicodone (Oxycodone HCl) wants nothing to do with Rhodes. Rhodes is the defining example of taking full advantage of the law allowing generics to contain 20% less of active ingredient.

The same is true with comparing Sandoz generic vs Watson generic -- Fentanyl 100mcg patches. Sandoz's 100mcg has 16.4mg and Watson has 10mg on the 100mcg patches. I found this out the hard way. No one can adjust to a 6,4mg drop and will spend damn near 4 weeks in premature withdrawals while wearing the patch.

In the beginning of 2025, Oxycodone HCl was on backorder on the East Coast. I was forced to source my Rx in another state and all Walgreens had was Rhodes 30mg. They absolutely suck, like trying to suck a golf ball through a straw.
Rhodes is awful. How much oxycodone is actually in their 15s?
 
20% is how much active oxycodone in a 15 mg crap Rhodes roxicodoyne?
20% of 15mg Oxycodone = 3mg Oxycodone less

Why do mallinkrodt brand 15 mg work so much better?
Two reasons for this -
(1) Mallinckrodt strives to make their generic Oxycodone HCl as close as possible to the strength of their brand name Roxicodone. I have had both, the Mallinckrodt brand name "Roxicodone" and Mallinckrodt generic Oxycodone HCl. There is little to no difference between the two. The only benefit to having the brand name version would be if said patient was on the drug for over a decade and needed every spec of the active ingredient available.

(2) Mallinckrodt uses the simplest pill construction and uses as little as possible binders & fillers with the active ingredient. The pill's construction would be defined best as "friable" or "crush under thumb." This type of construction makes for the quickest release of active ingredient and fast absorption of the active ingredient. IMO, all instant release medications should have this construction.

One downside to this construction is increased sensitivity to the atmosphere's conditions. I do not mention this viewpoint often because I end up having to either argue the point. Friable pills like mentioned have no outer layer to block more of the atmosphere and the pill construction is not dense in structure. Being simple like this, allows oxygen and moisture to penetrate easier. When I get my Mallinckrodt Oxycodone HCl Rx, I divide it up into 24qty threaded sealed bottles. Since I started doing this, the medicine has stopped losing it's strength after 18-21 days of the original fill date. I figured since the pharmacy only opens their stock bottles briefly and only a few times before empty, I decided to copy their protocol. Instead of opening the same bottle 6 times per day each day of the Rx like before.

I tested the theory in the following ways - (1) crushed the medicine day 1 of refill and crushed it after 21 days after opening the same bottle 130 times. The medicine had become softer and lost the original brittleness it had. (2) The experience of the medicine was losing it's luster which encouraged me to detect the issue. After making the change of opening the bottle less, the medicine working as intended for the 30 day duration.
 
20% of 15mg Oxycodone = 3mg Oxycodone less


Two reasons for this -
(1) Mallinckrodt strives to make their generic Oxycodone HCl as close as possible to the strength of their brand name Roxicodone. I have had both, the Mallinckrodt brand name "Roxicodone" and Mallinckrodt generic Oxycodone HCl. There is little to no difference between the two. The only benefit to having the brand name version would be if said patient was on the drug for over a decade and needed every spec of the active ingredient available.

(2) Mallinckrodt uses the simplest pill construction and uses as little as possible binders & fillers with the active ingredient. The pill's construction would be defined best as "friable" or "crush under thumb." This type of construction makes for the quickest release of active ingredient and fast absorption of the active ingredient. IMO, all instant release medications should have this construction.

One downside to this construction is increased sensitivity to the atmosphere's conditions. I do not mention this viewpoint often because I end up having to either argue the point. Friable pills like mentioned have no outer layer to block more of the atmosphere and the pill construction is not dense in structure. Being simple like this, allows oxygen and moisture to penetrate easier. When I get my Mallinckrodt Oxycodone HCl Rx, I divide it up into 24qty threaded sealed bottles. Since I started doing this, the medicine has stopped losing it's strength after 18-21 days of the original fill date. I figured since the pharmacy only opens their stock bottles briefly and only a few times before empty, I decided to copy their protocol. Instead of opening the same bottle 6 times per day each day of the Rx like before.

I tested the theory in the following ways - (1) crushed the medicine day 1 of refill and crushed it after 21 days after opening the same bottle 130 times. The medicine had become softer and lost the original brittleness it had. (2) The experience of the medicine was losing it's luster which encouraged me to detect the issue. After making the change of opening the bottle less, the medicine working as intended for the 30 day duration.
Are you telling me Rhodes 15mg oxycodone pills contain 3mg or less of oxycodone???? I know they provide me with zero pain relief, but I find it hard to believe that the U S Govt would allow Rhodes to only put 3mg of active oxycodone in a 15 mg .pill. That just blows my mind!
 
Are you telling me Rhodes 15mg oxycodone pills contain 3mg or less of oxycodone???? I know they provide me with zero pain relief, but I find it hard to believe that the U S Govt would allow Rhodes to only put 3mg of active oxycodone in a 15 mg .pill. That just blows my mind!
No No No... The law allows them to put 3mg less that of a 15mg pill.

The law allows generics to be up to 20% less in active ingredient. Not all company's generics are like this.

The Rhodes Oxycodone generic medications are obviously weaker thus they are taking full advantage of the law allowing them to be 20% less of active ingredient.

Rhodes also has a horrible pill construction that creates a poor delivery of active ingredient. The "oversized" pill has more fillers and non-active ingredients. IMO, this contributes to the medicine feeling weaker when compared to a simple efficient construction that delivers the active ingredient quickly and easier for the liver to breakdown.

Mallinckrodt's 30mg is 2/3rd's smaller than a Tic-Tac and Rhode's 30mg is the size of a Ibuprofen 800mg. To me this is like diluting something
 
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