DoorsofPerception
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Such an instrumental figure in the early psychedelic world...I hope your dream will live on forever, Owsley.
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Bear was a very interesting and intelligent individual. Towards the end of last year, I had the pleasure of some e-mail correspondence with him. Here's an excerpt that expresses one of his opinions:
"The economic situation is the single result of the black market created and maintained by the laws prohibiting drugs. This trade consists of very cheap plant derivatives with a 10,000 to 1 delivery fee. This has brought the whole house of card crashing down and the ONLY way Obama or anyone else can 'fix it' is to immediately and completely legalise ALL drugs, thus destroying the black market. Otherwise you are looking at utter and complete economic and social collapse. And... there are more guns than people in the US.....
The high fees have massively spread drug use all over the planet, and the huge 'profits' (trillions/year) have been used by the mobsters to buy up all the big international and national banks, loan companies. Every one of the things pointed to as the 'cause' is just typical Mafia style business practice- think about it."
Goodbye Brother Bear...
"The economic situation is the single result of the black market created and maintained by the laws prohibiting drugs. This trade consists of very cheap plant derivatives with a 10,000 to 1 delivery fee. This has brought the whole house of card crashing down and the ONLY way Obama or anyone else can 'fix it' is to immediately and completely legalise ALL drugs, thus destroying the black market. Otherwise you are looking at utter and complete economic and social collapse. And... there are more guns than people in the US.....
The high fees have massively spread drug use all over the planet, and the huge 'profits' (trillions/year) have been used by the mobsters to buy up all the big international and national banks, loan companies. Every one of the things pointed to as the 'cause' is just typical Mafia style business practice- think about it."
Goodbye Brother Bear...
I'd rather stick to discussing the Beatles rachamim as I think the Grateful Dead were a pretty shit band and the Hells angels are a bunch of violent wife-beating arseholes.
No it wasn't. John and George first took acid from the batch Micheal Hollingshead brought over in 1965. A dentist called John Riley had obtained some and dosed them.
The band was on par with today's Boy Bands before dosing.
Nah, I don't think the Beatles were ever like Justin Beiber.
They veered into "Sgt Pepper" and in turn led most of pop culture as well.
I always thought Sgt Pepper was their worst album. It's whimsical, overblown Paul stuff for the entire album apart from A day in the life.
John Lennon actually contracted with Owsley to personally provide him with product for the indefinite future
The Beatles sent a fake film crew over to film the Montery Pop festival and brought back a pint of liquid lysergic in the film cannisters. Not sure whether I'd call that a contract for the indefinate future - it was a one-off smuggling operation.
How can one even calculate the effect Owsley had on Lennon and to an equal extent the Beatles?
It's hard to say what effect it had on the Beatles. The strongest Beatle during their last 3 years was obviously Paul and he was the one who was least interested in LSD. Paul was writing most of the classic songs and running the show. Lennon used a lot of LSD during 66 and 67 but was abandoning it for heroin by mid-68. George abandoned the drug in '67 after visiting Haight-ashbury and hating the kids who used LSD.
No it wasn't. John and George first took acid from the batch Micheal Hollingshead brought over in 1965. A dentist called John Riley had obtained some and dosed them.
The band was on par with today's Boy Bands before dosing.
Nah, I don't think the Beatles were ever like Justin Beiber.
They veered into "Sgt Pepper" and in turn led most of pop culture as well.
I always thought Sgt Pepper was their worst album. It's whimsical, overblown Paul stuff for the entire album apart from A day in the life.
John Lennon actually contracted with Owsley to personally provide him with product for the indefinite future
The Beatles sent a fake film crew over to film the Montery Pop festival and brought back a pint of liquid lysergic in the film cannisters. Not sure whether I'd call that a contract for the indefinate future - it was a one-off smuggling operation.
How can one even calculate the effect Owsley had on Lennon and to an equal extent the Beatles?
It's hard to say what effect it had on the Beatles. The strongest Beatle during their last 3 years was obviously Paul and he was the one who was least interested in LSD. Paul was writing most of the classic songs and running the show. Lennon used a lot of LSD during 66 and 67 but was abandoning it for heroin by mid-68. George abandoned the drug in '67 after visiting Haight-ashbury and hating the kids who used LSD.
DwayneHoover
Bluelighter
^ Fascinating... thanks Ismene
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Can you link me to the part about George hating kids who take LSD?
Also what about the dog?
Also what about the dog?
GratefulDeadhead
Bluelighter
that was shitty, good man, whats crazy is i went to an umphreys show in sanfran and did a shitload of lsd puddles and then the next morning we were still trippng and found out that happen,weurd/
Its sad to hear this news, but there is a silver lining. In short, he wins (at least in the stupid risky game of cops and robbers that the dea calls the drug war) He fell off their radar and lived for quite a few years totally happy with what he had done.
DwayneHoover
Bluelighter
Agreed... sad he left us in such a manner... as Kurt Vonnegut Jr. was inclined to say whenever someone died or death was mentioned in one of his writings as well as in real life "...So It Goes..."
Another early pioneer who it is nice to see happy about what he did is Nick Sand.
Nick Sand who was released from Canadian prison a little while back was said to have manufactured 1/4 billion doses of LSD has been quite vocal being quite proud of that he did.
I love the end of this video from National Geographic, where announcer says "Sand has no regrets, and still views LSD as a sacrament"... and the way he is smiling beneficently, and then the sun time-lapses up and over his face.... SWEET! What a wonderful fellow! And a great video report!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXAKijc1Vmc
See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Sand
The Nick Sand Web Site
http://www.serendipity.li/dmt/nsand/
http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/sand_nick/sand_nick.shtml
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If anyone is interested, he had a website which can be found here: http://www.thebear.org