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Outpressed / Inpressed does it mean anything?

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Horrux

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I have read comments somewhere from people with lots of experience who reported that pills with decent amounts of amphetamine could not be made outpressed, since the amp makes the pills crumbly, be that, meth, mdma or mda or any other amphetamine.

I have also seen comments that pipes can be easily made outpressed because they make the pill much harder than any amphetamine, and the design holds.

Others have pointed out that different binders will allow different kinds of pressing, which is obviously true, yet the active will also have an effect on the overall crumbliness of the pill, if there is any decent quantity in there.

So am I to believe that what I have read (outpress = pipes) is false?
 
To keep it short yes outpress=pipes is false. However like you've probably seen there is a very large majority of outpressed pipes. In fact all the outpresses I've had(which isn't many) have been pipes. Yet like I said majority are, but not all. To prove my point I'll pull up a few that have been tested and are outpressed. I'm sure you can find more.

http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=22167

Well I find it hard to prove my point. I dont even know if you can call that one example a outpress, its just a badass press. I don't have much more time today to fuck around so I think I would like to also know the correct answer to this to lol.
 
Shape, color, smell, texture = 'anything' is false.

MDMA, Pipes, Speed can be pressed or shaped into a variety of different looking pills - testing is the only sure fire way of being certain what you have.

Outpressed speed pill can be seen
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=21602

Novelty Shaped MDMA
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=16369

Imprinted piperazines
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=21922

Theres no point in saying avoid blue pills or outpressed pills or imprinted or waxy or smelly or if they dont have little crystals in them as depending on the cook / presser they can all look identical.

I hope that clears things up :)
 
That Wii pill was losing its logo. Of course I never stated that it was impossible to press out an amphetamine pill, but rather that the amphetamine, so I heard, makes the pill 'crumbly' and that in turn makes it hard to keep an outpressed logo. And that Wii's stamp is half gone, and you can see that the pill doesn't look like plastic... It is porous, it's worn and the edges are also jagged by wear.

I have tested pills that tested as 'speed-like substance' on my tests but gave me the effects of a pipe pill with a 2-day hangover while normally speed leaves me quite normal the day after, if perhaps a bit pained in the jaws.

I'm not saying you are wrong Bearlove, just trying to shed some light on my own statements.
 
You have to test you can't go by looks. I have seen big waxy outpress' that you knew were BS test out perfect and they were almost free cuz everyone refused to get them.
 
Bearlove said:
Theres no point in saying avoid blue pills or outpressed pills or imprinted or waxy or smelly or if they dont have little crystals in them as depending on the cook / presser they can all look identical.
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I would say inpresses are a MUCH better bet than an outpress in the US, when you look at raw data. Still doesnt mean anything because there's piperazine inpresses too. Just search fleur-de-lis or Saints logo, and you'll see a boatload of inpressed piperazines that made everyone sick all over. Test kits FTW!
 
This is all just based on the choices of manufacturers of pills.

It _just happens_ that most of the organizations making pipes are doing out-presses, and novelty shapes. This might be in part because they make it in places that their operations are legal, and so instead of hiding in the shadows with presses the scrounged up, they're operating in the open and ordering up their own custom made press dies and so on. They're useful heuristics, in the absence of testing kits.

But there is absolutely no reason why someone couldn't press pipes with no imprint in a rudely made press to look like some domestic basement pill presser, or fake pokeballs, or why someone making legit pills couldn't decide to do an outpress rather than an imprinted pill.

The inherrent properties of the chemicals do not have a significant effect on what kind of pills you can make from them.
 
Thing is, I did test my pills, and they tested out OK but I the effects are those of pipes, not speed. So of course, this is once again a case where they put just a bit of some kind of amphetamine to fool the test and sell pipe pills.

Sucks that we don't have a test for pipes yet.
 
Horrux said:
That Wii pill was losing its logo. Of course I never stated that it was impossible to press out an amphetamine pill, but rather that the amphetamine, so I heard, makes the pill 'crumbly' and that in turn makes it hard to keep an outpressed logo. And that Wii's stamp is half gone, and you can see that the pill doesn't look like plastic... It is porous, it's worn and the edges are also jagged by wear.

I have tested pills that tested as 'speed-like substance' on my tests but gave me the effects of a pipe pill with a 2-day hangover while normally speed leaves me quite normal the day after, if perhaps a bit pained in the jaws.

I'm not saying you are wrong Bearlove, just trying to shed some light on my own statements.
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Yeah when I was looking for an outpressed speed pill I struggled to find one tbh and that was the closest I could find (not a great example).

All I was trying to say is that until its tested you cant say for certain what the pill contains - yes you can play the numbers game and say the majority of pips look a certain way so I will avoid them all - but I wouldnt do it the other way around by saying all MDMA pills look a certain way so that shaped/textured pill is safe to take.

When were on the subject of dirty pills, Weedkiller - caffeine - speed and GBH all in one pill :0

MCPP This is a herbicide which is used for combating weeds vonbreitblättrigen! This substance causes no psychoactive effect. The other ingredients caffeine and amphetamine can cause einestimulierende (activating) effect! GHB will unfold in the existing dose no effect! Risk - side effects: Mecoprop is a medium-toxic herbicide.

The people pressing this should be shot!
 
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Bearlove said:
When were on the subject of dirty pills, Weedkiller - caffeine - speed and GBH all in one pill :0

MCPP This is a herbicide which is used for combating weeds vonbreitblättrigen! This substance causes no psychoactive effect. The other ingredients caffeine and amphetamine can cause einestimulierende (activating) effect! GHB will unfold in the existing dose no effect! Risk - side effects: Mecoprop is a medium-toxic herbicide.

The people pressing this should be shot!
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Most likely what's in the pill is mCPP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta-Chlorophenylpiperazine

Not MCPP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylchlorophenoxypropionic_acid
 
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