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Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

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That 24% that don't feel positive about kittens need to be found and "talked too". :P
 
So should we trust the experts at the WHO or trust a population who've been brainwashed into fear?






People are waking up to this BS
 
"We Sent Them Samples Of A Goat, A Papaya & A Pheasant": Tanzanian President Catches WHO In Epic Lie
As the number of confirmed coronavirus cases explodes across Africa, the creeping involvement of the WHO has made some leaders suspicious of the NGO. Tanzanian President John Magufuli was growing suspicious of the organization, so he reportedly decided to investigate whether the organization was as trustworthy and reliable as it claimed to be.

He played what the local press described as "a trick" on the organization: He sent the WHO samples of a goat, a papaya and a quail for testing.

All three samples reportedly tested positive. When the president heard the news, he reportedly confronted the WHO, then kicked the organization out of the country. Though, to be sure, the WHO has yet to comment on the situation.
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You know what, if a trusted news source were to bring together the greatest minds on the virus and hold a panel discussion to help the world's populace understand the true risk, and realistic actions we as global citizens could take....if only someone would take that lead, and ensure the right people are there to speak. I know there's one voice we'd all agree is a MUST for such a panel, and really, only one news source we could trust to pull this off....


Greta Thunberg’s Addition to CNN Coronavirus Town Hall Draws Criticism, Confusion

CNN announced Wednesday that teen climate activist Greta Thunberg is in the lineup for a Thursday town hall on the coronavirus, baffling observers and drawing heavy scorn from critics.

Thunberg will join former acting Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Richard Besser and former Department of Health and Human Services secretary Kathleen Sebelius on the panel. The 8 p.m. ET program will be hosted by Anderson Cooper and Dr. Sanjay Gupta
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New Zealand’s Government is defending a new bill giving sweeping powers to police.

The rushed Covid-19 Public Health Response Bill passed within 48 hours and will potentially allow police to enter homes without a warrant.

With 63 votes in favour and 57 against, the bill passed on Wednesday.

The country’s Human Rights Commission called the bill “a great failure of our democratic process”.

Those against the bill in New Zealand are calling it an “overreach of powers”.
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S.J.B. said:
To be clear, these are not survival rates of COVID-19. They are the proportion of a country's population that has not yet died of COVID-19, including those who have never been tested for COVID-19.
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Fixed.
Just to be clear - as some experts are suggesting that this virus is already much more widespread than mainstream media claims. Which means its mortality rate would be even far lower than currently advertised (and at the end of the day even if the official figures were correct - this is not a pandemic).

Some more stuff to be clear on:

Swedish government data showing all cause death over last 5 years from Jan 1st to May 8th each year.
Not that anyone cares anymore, but the data from every country will prove to be similar.
There never was anything to be concerned about from this virus, but someone with the power to do so, told governments around the world that the virus was deadly and required 'lockdown'.
Now those governments are attempting to extricate themselves from this fubar situation, while some cliques within government are attempting to 'make hay while the sun shines', and exploit the situation to increase societal control.
That's where we're at for now.

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FACEBOOK WILL STOP LABELING FAKE NEWS BECAUSE IT BACKFIRED, MADE MORE USERS BELIEVE HOAXES
Here's something that was 100% predictable, and yet they wishfully believed it would work and went ahead anyway. Same goes for other shit head censorship outfits like 'Newsguard'.

Experts Question Why Coronavirus Hasn’t Killed More Russians
Western "experts" throw shade at Russia because its death date from covid-19 is "too low". But the answer is simple:
Russia's death rate of 0.9% (far below the global average and the lowest among nations with the highest numbers of infections) is accurate because Russia is only recording deaths as "covid-19" for people who tested positive for the virus and do not have other chronic underlying health conditions (which would be the real cause of death).
Unlike Russia, most Western nations are recording all test-positive cases AND all "suspected" cases (even in individuals with serious, long-term underlying illnesses and who have NOT tested positive) as "covid-19".
That's how you artificially inflate numbers. That's how you terrorize populations. That's how you manufacture a "pandemic".
"The mortality rate is low in Russia because the statistics only include the deaths of people directly attributed to Covid-19, said an official with knowledge of coronavirus fatality calculations. Other countries with higher totals have broader criteria for attributing deaths to the virus."

Birx said 'there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust' in a White House coronavirus task force meeting
Not sure from how many more horse's mouths people need to hear it before they understand that THE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN INFLATED!
"Birx and others reportedly feared that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was using inflated data on coronavirus death and case rates."


NYC Adds 3,800 Probable Virus Victims to Death Toll
A little reminder of what has been going on behind those 'official death counts' we've all had shoved down our throats for 8 weeks. From 1 month ago:
"Freddi Goldstein, press secretary to Mayor Bill de Blasio, said Tuesday that the data include at-home deaths of people suspected of having Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. That judgment is based on reported symptoms including cough, fever and shortness of breath."
Cough, fever shortness of breath? Covid for sure, stick it on the list. Cos no one has ever died with those symptoms from anything other than covid-19. Apparently.

Millions predicted to develop tuberculosis as result of Covid-19 lockdown
Lockdowns are all about saving lives, right?
"The head of a global partnership to end tuberculosis (TB) said she is “sickened” by research that revealed millions more people are expected to contract the disease as a result of Covid-19 restrictions.
Up to 6.3 million more people are predicted to develop TB between now and 2025 and 1.4 million more people are expected to die as cases go undiagnosed and untreated during lockdown. This will set back global efforts to end TB by five to eight years.
“The fact that we’ve rolled back to 2013 figures and we have so many people dying, this for me is sickening,” said Lucica Ditiu, executive director of the Stop TB Partnership. “I am outraged that just by not being able to control what we do … and forgetting about programmes that exist we lose so much, starting with the loss of the lives of people.”
 
Ah now we have "conspiracy theorists" inside of the Italian parliament, warning everyone



"Today in front of the Italian chamber of deputies, deputy Sara Cunial gave a brave speech that repudiated the globalist lockdown policy and calls out Bill Gates' influence by name. Our media seems to push a narrative that only redneck republicans, and conspiracy theorists, waving confederate flags are resisting the lockdown. The reality is that there is a worldwide movement that is organically happening. What side of history will you be on?

If you don't understand Italian use the CC feature for subtitles. You are NOT going to see this on any American media."
 
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Donald Trump: We’re Mobilizing Military to Distribute Future Coronavirus Vaccine

The president said that distributing the vaccine would be a “massive job” and that he would move quickly to get it distributed.

“Unless you’re mobilized and ready, you’re not going to be able to do it for a long time. So we’re starting now,” he said.

President Trump predicted a vaccine would become available by the end of 2020, and manufacturers are already mobilizing the production of millions of doses of potential vaccine candidates while they are tested.

The president has also set an “Operation Warp Speed “task force goal of getting 100 million vaccine doses available in the fall, with 300 million doses by January.
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While there can be outcry about possible hypocrisy on his part regarding vaccines, I see this not as a use of military to FORCE vaccines, but utilizing the military's logistics to make it available.
 
T cells found in COVID-19 patients ‘bode well’ for long-term immunity
Mitch Leslie
ScienceMag.org
May 14th, 2020
Immune warriors known as T cells help us fight some viruses, but their importance for battling SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has been unclear. Now, two studies reveal infected people harbor T cells that target the virus—and may help them recover. Both studies also found some people never infected with SARS-CoV-2 have these cellular defenses, most likely because they were previously infected with other coronaviruses.

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All of the patients carried helper T cells that recognized the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which enables the virus to infiltrate our cells. They also harbored helper T cells that react to other SARS-CoV-2 proteins. And the team detected virus-specific killer T cells in 70% of the subjects, they report today in Cell. “The immune system sees this virus and mounts an effective immune response,” Sette says.

The results jibe with those of a study posted as a preprint on medRxiv on 22 April by immunologist Andreas Thiel of the Charité University Hospital in Berlin and colleagues. They identified helper T cells targeting the spike protein in 15 out of 18 patients hospitalized with COVID-19.

The teams also asked whether people who haven’t been infected with SARS-CoV-2 also produce cells that combat it. Thiel and colleagues analyzed blood from 68 uninfected people and found that 34% hosted helper T cells that recognized SARS-CoV-2. The La Jolla team detected this crossreactivity in about half of stored blood samples collected between 2015 and 2018, well before the current pandemic began. The researchers think these cells were likely triggered by past infection with one of the four human coronaviruses that cause colds; proteins in these viruses resemble those of SARS-CoV-2.

The results suggest “one reason that a large chunk of the population may be able to deal with the virus is that we may have some small residual immunity from our exposure to common cold viruses,” says viral immunologist Steven Varga of the University of Iowa. However, neither of the studies attempted to establish that people with crossreactivity don’t become as ill from COVID-19.
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Read the full story here.
 
[QUOTE="TheLoveBandit, post: 14835126, member: 3824]"While there can be outcry about possible hypocrisy on his part regarding vaccines, I see this not as a use of military to FORCE vaccines, but utilizing the military's logistics to make it available.[/QUOTE]
He's venturing into dangerous territory with comments like those. Trump used to be a vaccine skeptic before he became President. Now he has agendas to follow.

Models behind coronavirus plans mostly ‘educated guesses’

Why have they only just noticed the carnage in care homes?
Mass murder of the elderly on the basis of "educated guesses". Think about that.

Isolated UK care home residents 'fading away' say staff and families





Over a period of two years, officials within the US establishment succeeded in convincing most of the world's population of two egregious lies: that Trump was 'in bed' with the Russians and that the Russians 'stole' the 2016 US presidential election. Both of those lies have been publicly exposed for what they always were.

Why would anyone (anyone in their right mind that is) therefore, reject as impossible the idea that the narrative around covid-19 is a similar elaborate lie, especially when there is a wealth of data to support the contention?
 
This is worth a read. Gonna put it in this thread as I've said for a while that I believe the origins of this virus are from Fort Detrick (Judy Mikovits PhD agrees and she worked there). I've been told that it came from a failed vaccine test on US soldiers that eventually leaked out into the public, mutated and was taken to China possibly via US soldiers traveling to the Wuhan military games. One of the purposes of the vaccine (which their current aim is to inject en masse) is to make people more controllable, ie attacking parts of the DNA linked to people being more rebellious against authority and anti-oppression. Sounds crazy until you look at what was going on over 50 years ago:


Fort Detrick's mind-blowing, murderous history

After World War II, Fort Detrick became a site of horrifying scientific experiments conducted under a top-secret CIA quest to control the human mind, known as Project MK Ultra. After more than 20 years, the project ended in abysmal failure and led to an unknown number of deaths, including a scientist who participated in the project, and at least hundreds of American and Canadian victims subjected to mental and physical torture. The experiments not only violated international law, but also the agency's own charter which forbids domestic activity.
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As explained by David Talbot in his book The Devil's Chessboard, many spies recruited in the early days of the Cold War were sketchy, undependable characters motivated by inner vulnerabilities such as greed, lust or revenge. Meanwhile, the agency was looking for ways to rule out these psychological variables by creating human machines that would act on command, even against his own conscience.
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In official terms, the main goal of the program was "research and development of chemical, biological, and radiological materials capable of employment in clandestine operations to control human behavior," according to a declassified memo produced by the CIA Inspector General. It quickly ballooned in scale, branching into 149 sub-projects involving at least 80 institutions including universities, hospitals, prisons and drug companies across the United States and Canada.
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Unbeknownst to neither the White House nor Congress, people of the forgotten corner of America - the prisoners, prostitutes and the homeless - were picked off the streets as unwitting participants in the mad science at Fort Derrick: "People who could not fight back," in the words of Gottlieb. However, the program also relied on people who could, including American soldiers and unsuspecting patients who inadvertently stumbled into MK Ultra-associated hospitals and clinics across North America.
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White House and Congress didn't know? That's not possible. Must be a conspiracy theory.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
I really fuckin' hope I have immunity I am not going to deal well if I get sick again
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You will get sick again from one illness or another that is a given, probably not from SARS-CoV-2, assuming you were infected with SARS-CoV-2 in the first place. There are plenty of ILIs in general circulation that have similar symptoms. As a bonus in California today you can get all sorts of nineteenth century illnesses, like Typhus and Tuberculosis.

Immunity is a gradated thing, On an individual level:
There is immunity that stops you getting infected at all (which is pretty rare),
Then through to immunity that allows limited infection for example silent and asymptomatic infection, temporarily mild infected or even a long term carrier (pertussis - whooping cough, chickenpox, Influenza, Typhoid, Polio etc)
Then there is immunity that stops you getting really sick but doesn't limit infection very much at all (Diptheria, Tetanus)
Then there is immunity that will make you much sicker than if you didn't have any immunity (Dengue, probably Malaria) Immunity that is close but misses can be really bad news, for example antibodies that would neutralize the original strain but don't neutralize mutated strains can cause serious problems including death.

People seem to be surprised that SARS-CoV-2 and the immune system works just like every other virus interaction humans have encountered over the last 150 thousand years or more.

The question that needs to be asked is whether governments are going to use lock down or other over reactions whenever something new appears? Something like a transmissible H5N3 flu or a new pathogenic adenovirus or whatever. Something like this will emerge and be seen pretty early, the technology exists to quickly identify emerging pathogens, before it was quite easy for things to emerge and fade away without ever being noticed. Now we see these things before the data is available to make an estimate of the consequences, the modelling is bullshit based on faulty assumptions without decent data and the response is heavy handed and lumbering.

Now the politicians have gone down this path, don't expect anyone with a vested interest in covering their own butts to ever examine truthfully and honestly whether the approach was the correct one. Right now there is a lot of money to be made and control to be gained capitalizing on fear, and there is no way out of this path.

The power hungry now know a lot more just how far they can push people, how many unalienable rights they can trample without the people stopping them. Their lies and manipulations are beating self evident truths into a pulp. If your fear is driving your decisions, then part of you has already died.


from a month ago.
novaveritas said:
if there is no immunity how do people not just die everytime? does the virus get bored and decide not to do its thing any more? engage brains people. Blood borne antibodies, humoral immunity is not the only thing that gives immunity, more importantly antibodies really really struggle to clear or destroy infected cells, almost like there is some other part of the adaptive immune system (let's call this cell mediated immunity)

This coronavirus is nothing special, it is not a weapon, it is not virus X. If the immune sytem was as weak and maladaptive as some of the deranged thought processes I have seen here recently, humans and most likely all mammals would have been wiped out long ago.
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