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Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

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You don't think these 3 million hungry mouths matter man?
OK now you're digging yourself in a hole... didn't you think there was some LIMIT THE MEAT INTAKE conspiracy theory and THAT'S why they're PLANDEMIC-ing the lack of meat?

Now you're claiming covid-19 lockdown caused the lack of food? How?

Did the virus make people avoid food by causing anorexia? That hasn't been documented.

They should have just stole food instead of paying for it. I doubt the police state would have arrested 3 million hungry civilians. Or have even been capable of it...

Unemployment is directly related to higher mortality?
Employment is not a biological NEED like sex, food, medicine... so I'm going to call bullshit on that.

Just... saying. "Indirectly" and I might agree with you on that one.
 
Personally I think the lockdown is stupid. People ARE NOT keeping their 6 feet of space. They ARE NOT wearing masks, or are wearing them around their chins (your chin doesn't breathe, put it on or take it off... people are insane...) they are taking their time in a grocery store and clearly are old enough to have been to grocery stores before.

Just form a decent logical argument we can agree on. Getting people back to work will prove immediately impossible. I don't think "we're unemployed" is a reason to end the lockdown.

I know I won't all of the sudden find employment if the lockdown were over. That's not going to happen... that's a pipe dream.

It is for many people.
 
Sweden had 365 death per million while Norway had 43 dpm. Do the math...
Norwegians also had a very robust economy and tons of money... which may impact their ability to shut down their economy for a while and survive healthily through it.

There's tons of factors and I don't think we can immediately just compare numbers and point to "the solution".

China's draconian procedures DID NOT WORK and western, civilized nations decided "LET'S DO WHAT DOESN'T WORK!". That infuriated me.
 
OK now you're digging yourself in a hole... didn't you think there was some LIMIT THE MEAT INTAKE conspiracy theory and THAT'S why they're PLANDEMIC-ing the lack of meat?
This is a separate issue/agenda but yea there's been an agenda to stop people from consuming meat. Before covid19 it was "cow farts" and trying to convince people not to eat meat either by lying and saying it's contributing to manmade global warming or lying and telling people that meat is bad for their health. Truth is animal products are essential (B12) which helps people think and function normally and there was even a massive meta-analysis study which was censored recently because it was credible and showed that consuming meat didn't lead to any excess mortality.

Now you're claiming covid-19 lockdown caused the lack of food? How?
C'mon bro foreal this is basic shit. If you hit PAUSE on the economy and so many people can't go to work (even if they need to) then they're not going to be able to afford food. So many people are living paycheck to paycheck. Not everyone is entitled to government socalism benefits and for many people they are not enough to keep their heads above water.

Employment is not a biological NEED like sex, food, medicine... so I'm going to call bullshit on that.
Considering the system we live in, employment is a biological need. Small businesses are essential.
Even when we're not in in this system, people need to do some sort of work or they die. Basic biology.

I've said for a while that part of this agenda is to accelerate the purposeful starvation of a large number of people. It was on the cards anyway due to climate-related crop losses but now they're able to blame all of the impending repercussions on the virus. GG
 
Methane is real, man. Even I think overpopulation is the issue, not cows. I really do. It's 8 billion people murdering Planet Earth in tandem. But methane being released from cows... is just real... I'm sorry.

Human-made global warming is real. But it's not the cars/gas that's the problem... it's 8 billion people. Of course cars/gas contribute. 8 billion people's worth of cars/gas contributes ... exponentially more.

And that's what people don't get. Just my 2 cents.

Truth is animal products are essential (B12)
100% agreed, never going to change my mind about this either. I'll be eating animal meat until they stop selling it. Beef is amazing. Not an end-all be-all for me, but I would be devastated in a world without beef.
 
Sweden had 365 death per million while Norway had 43 dpm. Do the math...

It's pretty tedious doing these comparisons and highlighting simple facts and figures that make it clear that we're being manipulated, but here ya go.

Sweden: pop 10.2 million

UK: pop 66.6 million (i.e. more than 6 times the Swedish pop.)

Do the math yourself.
One country locked down, the other didn't.
But just to make it more interesting, here's evidence from the horse's mouth that the UK is still recording "daily deaths from covid-19" that go back to early April, and the media is shoving them in your face as if they all happened in the last 24 hours. How's that for fudging the numbers...
https://www.cebm.net/…/covid-19-death-data-in-england-upda…/

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Because unlike Western governments, they're not counting people who didn't die from covid-19.
 
Methane is real, man. Even I think overpopulation is the issue, not cows. I really do. It's 8 billion people murdering Planet Earth in tandem. But methane being released from cows... is just real... I'm sorry.
LOL

Human-made global warming is real. But it's not the cars/gas that's the problem... it's 8 billion people. Of course cars/gas contribute. 8 billion people's worth of cars/gas contributes ... exponentially more.
Take this false bullshit to the anthropogenic climate change thread. The sun is by far the primary driver of climate.

100% agreed, never going to change my mind about this either. I'll be eating animal meat until they stop selling it. Beef is amazing. Not an end-all be-all for me, but I would be devastated in a world without beef..
If the agenda continues to plan then soon you won't be able to purchase beef. You will be offered a replacement of lab-grown meat. The same groups who are pushing the destruction of our food supply have also invested billions into lab-grown meat and fake foods. Vested interests.
 
C'mon bro foreal this is basic shit. If you hit PAUSE on the economy and so many people can't go to work (even if they need to) then they're not going to be able to afford food. So many people are living paycheck to paycheck. Not everyone is entitled to government socalism benefits and for many people they are not enough to keep their heads above water.


Considering the system we live in, employment is a biological need. Small businesses are essential.
Even when we're not in in this system, people need to do some sort of work or they die. Basic biology.

I've said for a while that part of this agenda is to accelerate the purposeful starvation of a large number of people. It was on the cards anyway due to climate-related crop losses but now they're able to blame all of the impending repercussions on the virus. GG
We threw trillions of dollars at the small businesses, they're just fine. I don't think they need more money.

You should NOT be living "paycheck to paycheck". Everyone does. The more money you make the less it matters... you'll find a use for it. Very few people save or plan for their futures. I myself am not a shining star of example.

"Not everyone is entitled" well that's because they don't WANT to let OTHERS become entitled to social welfare programs... work is their only option. Because it's all they want and are furious at the idea people don't have to do what they "have to". If you read Atlas Shrugged or political ideology from leftists, it becomes apparent that you don't have to work.

And you don't. Were you born selling burgers? Were you born mopping floors?

"Basic biology" that's insane. Work is not biologically necessary. You've failed to prove this in a scientific way.
 
Just form a decent logical argument we can agree on. Getting people back to work will prove immediately impossible. I don't think "we're unemployed" is a reason to end the lockdown.
Yes it's a damn good reason especially since the justifications for the lockdowns have been proven to have been based on incorrect numbers.

JI know I won't all of the sudden find employment if the lockdown were over. That's not going to happen... that's a pipe dream.

It is for many people.
This is the goal. Destruction of people's livelihoods, destruction of the middle-class, push people into poverty, make people more desperate and dependent on the governments.

IT'S FUCKING OBVIOUS BY NOW.
 
If the agenda continues to plan then soon you won't be able to purchase beef.
The agenda is to fuck tons of people onto Planet Earth until the ecosystem totally collapses and drinking water, food, become luxuries and people start starving to death. We're at 8 billion... four fold what is sustainable on Planet Earth.

8 billion people is a serious problem and is the main reason covid-19 went so extreme. We couldn't live in a world of 8 billion people without internationalism ruining us, no nation could totally lockdown its borders. DPRK has covid-19 and is lying about it (because they don't have total control over their own borders, no nation does). Nationalism is a failure due to human overpopulation. I can't imagine any non-leftist would think 8 billion people is totally OK.
 
This is the goal. Destruction of people's livelihoods, destruction of the middle-class, push people into poverty, make people more desperate and dependent on the governments.

IT'S FUCKING OBVIOUS BY NOW.
Wouldn't sending a bunch of people to the hospital with covid-19 infections and no health insurance also ruin their lives, make them poor, bills they can never pay?

Maybe if we HAD socialized medicine and had funded it as robustly as oh I don't know, Cuba, we could ALL just go back to work, get sick, get better, and it'd be over by now... but NO that's sure as hell NOT happening... and not giving people health care WAS NOT GOING TO HELP US GO BACK TO WORK.

Oh I know what'll help me go back to work... A BORDER WALL!

DJT's plan = massive failure. The dems look logical to an intelligent person but cannot win because people are not smart (i.e. the lockdown protests). I'm totally down for protesting but gathering face to face with a bunch of strangers is fucking stupid ... I want my 6 feet of personal space and I cannot imagine people being so reckless about it.

MAYBE DEPORTING MEXICANS WILL GET ME MY JOB BACK LOL.

Nope.
 
We threw trillions of dollars at the small businesses, they're just fine. I don't think they need more money.
This sounds like something someone lazy would say who's never had the drive or desire to create their own business.

"Not everyone is entitled" well that's because they don't WANT to let OTHERS become entitled to social welfare programs... work is their only option. Because it's all they want and are furious at the idea people don't have to do what they "have to". If you read Atlas Shrugged or political ideology from leftists, it becomes apparent that you don't have to work..
Yeah this is nonsense espoused by lazy people and communists.

And you don't. Were you born selling burgers? Were you born mopping floors?
"Basic biology" that's insane. Work is not biologically necessary. You've failed to prove this in a scientific way.
It's actually the most simple of biology. Let's remove you from this system and put you in the middle of nowhere. How do you survive? You need to eat. So better get to WORK! You can either go out hunting or begin farming or both. Need shelter? Better do that work to build yourself a structure. In fact if you ever stop working you wither away and die. It's a biological necessity and fact of existence.

But there's nothing new with leftists denying biological reality.
 
This sounds like something someone lazy would say who's never had the drive or desire to create their own business.
...LOL... ok, ouch... that was personal but I probably deserved that. I take it you have a small business? Did you get that gov't $$$?

Yeah this is nonsense espoused by lazy people and communists.
Ayn Rand is probably more conservative than me. Her concept was that too many people were willing to work; i.e. participate in predatory work conditions and it was up to them to refuse to work. Hence why a minimum wage is unnecessary. I think you're missing the point. You don't HAVE to work. It is NOT biological. It's not like you'll die if you get on unemployment. Many people live while on unemployment.

It's actually the most simple of biology. Let's remove you from this system and put you in the middle of nowhere. How do you survive? You need to eat. So better get to WORK! You can either go out hunting or begin farming or both. Need shelter? Better do that work to build yourself a structure. In fact if you ever stop working you wither away and die. It's a biological necessity and fact of existence.

But there's nothing new with leftists denying biological reality.
If I was in the middle of nowhere, then I would not need a government's permission to end the lockdown.

Problem... solved. "Work" ie. our political discussion implies employment. Take me to the middle of nowhere, business and employment become impossible, yes?
 
...LOL... ok, ouch... that was personal but I probably deserved that. I take it you have a small business? Did you get that gov't $$$?
People who end up starting their own businesses end up becoming more conservative simply based on the experience of taking care of themselves and the government making it as difficult as possible. Now they've made it impossible for many people and destroyed much of their chances in the future. Even if they open up with new bullshit restrictions like certain businesses only allowed to operate at 50% of their original capacity. Most businesses can't survive running at 50%.

I believe much of this has been deliberate, especially considering the original numbers that were used to scare people into lockdowns were FALSE. It makes no sense apart from an attack against the average person and our way of life.

Ayn Rand is probably more conservative than me. Her concept was that too many people were willing to work; i.e. participate in predatory work conditions and it was up to them to refuse to work. Hence why a minimum wage is unnecessary. I think you're missing the point. You don't HAVE to work. It is NOT biological. It's not like you'll die if you get on unemployment. Many people live while on unemployment.
Unemployment benefits are a privilege for richer countries. For most people in the world they either work or relatives look after them or they die.

If I was in the middle of nowhere, then I would not need a government's permission to end the lockdown.

Problem... solved. "Work" ie. our political discussion implies employment. Take me to the middle of nowhere, business and employment become impossible, yes?

What is the purpose for that "work"? They do it because it's fun or they do it to afford things to keep them alive and safe? I don't think you understand the concept of work. Whether you're foraging through the bush to hunt an antelope or you're flipping burgers it still has the same result. You're doing work in order to provide food for yourself and your family. Having a dedication to some type of work keeps people psychologically healthy. I would go so far as to say it's part of our inherent nature. Because like I've illustrated, if you're in the wild (our natural state) then you either work or you die. So since technology and society has advanced, the nature of "work" has changed. Now we could have a discussion about predatory capitalism and the enslavement of humanity via the workforce and I'm sure we'd come to some agreements, but that's different to what I'm saying don't get it twisted.

And if you have a problem with the system (I have many) the answer is not to destroy it and make things worse for people.
 
Bay Area Cafe Chain Specialty's to Close for Good
Specialty's Cafe and Bakery has served its last semisweet chocolate chunk cookies and other beloved baked treats.

The 33-year-old Bay Area cafe chain announced it is closing for good — every one of its 50 locations across three U.S. States — citing the COVID-19 pandemic.

"Current market conditions attributed to COVID-19 and shelter-in-place policies have decimated company revenues," the company wrote in a statement on its website.


Flattened, all right.
 
You should be much more fearful of your governments than this nonsense virus.

I agree. Our government lead by DJT and the Republican Congress is very scary. Bailed out big business and gave crumbs to regular folks. Denied a second payment...
 
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