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CH chill the fuck out. please, get your eye back on the ball. wait patience.every dog has its day.

I hadn't realised Kalifornia had run out of meds already...
 
@TheLoveBandit people are actually getting sick and dying though. I know at least one bler that very likely has covid-19 based on their description of their symptoms. huge difference between martial law and quarantine, plus during martial law I'd be able to throw on my uniform and push my weight as an NCO around for quite a while
 
There's a lot to look forward to, one more seasonal flu virus. No big deal.

Totally IMMORAL for all the old people he's going to kill.

Hitler killed 6 million and had to face justice by eating his own gun to avoid a noose. How many MILLIONS of people will Trump have killed pretending to be a nationalist by the time November 2020 comes around by NOT CLOSING DOWN THE PORTS OF ENTRY?

And Day 1 he did MUSLIM BAN and everyone was like "oh, no man, you can't do that..." YES YOU CAN. I don't believe in that, but YOU CAN. That's nationalism.

HE DID NOT EVEN TRY TO CLOSE THE PORTS OF ENTRY UNTIL IT WAS "TOO LATE", AND THE SLIP OF THE TONGUE...



HAHAHAHAHAHA

HE'S NOT, DON LEMON, YOU'RE SO SMART BUT YOU DON'T GET IT: HE'S LIED ABOUT IT SO MUCH AND DUG HIMSELF INTO SO MANY LIES THE TRUTH SLIPPED OUT OR WAS PURPOSEFULLY SAID I.E. "OH I ALWAYS KNEW, I'M NOT A DUMBASS BECAUSE I'M A NARCISSIST" it's a perfect defense he's guilty for millions of American deaths to come and he's going to get away with it.

Then you have commies like tathra who are cheering on the rich dying as if that'll solve anything!!! The overpopulation is the problem.

The crashing of the stock market, the disgusting bipartisan effort that was SO STUPID TO HAVE FAITH IT COULD BE CONTAINED

Why why would you think it's a hoax I'm sure he knew it was real from seeing the videos of bodies in China, it's not a hoax, it is real and he KNEW IT he LIES all the time AND THE TIMES HE DOESN'T HE LIES SO OFTEN YOU HAVE TO THINK VERY CAREFULLY TO GET IT.

Think about it. He did this, paid for it, MONEY CONTROLS THE WORLD ONLY THE ANARCHOCAPITALISTS GET IT, and to have prevented America from getting corona virus would be very suspicious and he has to cover his tracks so he can keep fucking his plastic barbie doll of a wife while she listlessly stares off into the distance in disgust at the morbidly obese serial cheater she's put up with to have a life of lower-upper class wealth.

Why is he allying himself with Russia? White internationalism. Where Hitler failed, Putin and Trump picked up the one world government reigns. America and Iran are marionettes dancing the way they want us to, the way Putin controls Trump through money and Iran as a political ally. Russia tests its power endlessly in proxy wars, Libya, Syria. Why did so early in the epidemic did Russia report zero cases?

I know the ARV's are stockpiled in places in Russia and US. You'd have to be a Un level DPRK IDIOT not to have ARV's stockpiled running a germ warfare lab.

They have all the weapons and the cures. Why go to a real bloody war with Iran when we have them digging their mass graves already?

You guys DON'T GET IT. REAL WAR WITH IRAN WOULD HAVE LIKELY RESULTED IN LESS DEATHS. It would NOT HAVE ESCALATED AS IT WAS ALL ORCHESTRATED BY RUSSIA.

We were AFRAID OF A WORLD WAR FOR NOTHING and the internationalist media pulled the wool over our eyes once again. And now we are fighting a war on the corona virus, in the national script it is a war that we are fighting. Think about it.

This is a war against Iran and China. Russia likely had something to do with this as it is their only natural enemy now (non-signatory party to the nuclear arms treaty) other than US satellite states like Israel which are easily manipulated through US allies to Israel (TRUMP!).

ONE vaccine trial, FORTY FIVE people NOT exposed post-vaccination to the virus but "monitored for a year". IDIOTS. You think there's a cure coming? It's already there. Heels are dragging in the mud yet again. Just watch it fall apart in phase 2 or 3 trials. Think about the time, a year... just in time for all those vulnerable old Democratic voters to die off... I'm not even a Democrat and it's clear who this is targeting. And that's just Phase I trials, don't forget all the stiff FDA regulations that prevent a drug from gaining approval in Phase II or III... and what, they'll do one more vaccine trial, at which point who knows what the US political landscape will look like...

And TATHRA THINKS IT'S GOING TO KILL OFF OLD RICH PEOPLE HAHAHAHAHAHA. They can afford stockpiling food. They can afford having food delivered, self-quarantining, and spacing out from the rest of us. Poor people cannot. Think very carefully about this. It's going to dis-proportionally affect the poor.

Tathra if you think this is in any way helping your political cause you are WRONG comrade. BIDEN IS VERY CLOSE TO WINNING THE PRIMARY. Sanders will NOT WIN. There are TOO MANY PEOPLE AFRAID OF DYING AND ABJECT POVERTY to vote for Sanders
. You have no one to thank for that but innate human greed and selfishness. The human condition, the fact that intelligent life is inherently self destructive is what you struggle with.

If the virus spread so quickly and wasn't within Trump's control, he had no reason to lie in the manner and pattern he did knowing that it was no hoax, and this kind of kool-aid is only tasty to his already FOR SURE TRUMP VOTER supporters. He's not going to lose the white nationalist idiots in the south who are going to vote for him anyways. He had no reason to start with the hoax lie than to cover his tracks and wash his hands of the crime.


And this is what Trump wants.

PEOPLE HAD HIGH SUPPORT FOR HIS PRESIDENCY WHEN HE FIXED THE SHITTY ECONOMY OBAMA HAD.

I don't even think you can blame the government for the ups and downs of the stock market but IN THE MINDS OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN FREE WILL, THAT STUPID KOOL-AID DELUSION MOST OF YOU BELIEVE IN, he TOTALLY CAN, man and he's going to MAGA and Make the stock market GREAT AGAIN... it's part of the lie.

DO NOT BE AFRAID FOR THE ECONOMY. Money doesn't bring people happiness. THE ECONOMY WILL DO JUST FINE OR IT WON'T.

We DO NOT need Trump to save it.

This fear for the economy... it will cause people to vote for Trump (was the stock market doing well under Biden?...) and is just as bad as the fear of the virus, the fear of dying.

All fear enables people to be taken advantage of by the predatory capitalist nation that's RUINING PLANET EARTH AND DENYING GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE.

The ECONOMY will HAVE TO COLLAPSE for PLANET EARTH TO BE SAVED. In Greta Thunberg's words..

"This is all wrong. I shouldn’t be up here. I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean. Yet you all come to us young people for hope? How dare you! You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words. And yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. And all you can talk about is money and fairy-tales of eternal economic growth. How dare you! You are failing us. But the young people are starting to understand your betrayal. The eyes of all future generations are upon you. And if you choose to fail us, I say: We will never forgive you..."

The ONLY GOOD money can do right now is to be redistributed IN A COMMUNIST WAY so that people CAN self-quarantine AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THEY JUST SAID THAT AS A LIE MNUCHIN IS AN IDIOT FOR LYING TO US ALL WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GIVE TO PEOPLE LIKE ME. We all know this isn't going to happen; it would upset Trump's base of "but they're giving OUR JERBS AND TAX MONEY to MEXICANS" Trump has to definitely, definitely not give money out. The thought money is coming is a massive lie, and if it is, it'll be because you WORKED FOR IT (national socialism) and get it back from the IRS (INCOME TAX IS ILLEGAL, ILLEGITIMATE!), and we all know who that will disproportionately effect negatively...


My apologies, Captain. I didn't think you were that sensitive.

Still you must agree, all the hate in the world isn't going to fix the situation. Try to focus on positive things.

I must remind you that I'm in my 80's with my wife slightly younger. I'm not afraid to die. I don't blame any public figure, left or right and I don't need you to champion for me. Take that for what it's worth.
 
My apologies, Captain. I didn't think you were that sensitive.

Still you must agree, all the hate in the world isn't going to fix situation. Try to focus on positive things.

I must remind you that I'm in my 80's with my wife slightly younger. I'm not afraid to die. I don't blame any public figure, left or right and I don't need you to champion for me. Take that for what it's worth.

It's hard not to be sad for all the dying people because I'm trying to be optimistic for a happy outcome. It just isn't going to happen and we all know it. The scientists and doctors say it. Trump lies. He either has a magical cure only he can know about because of Nazi-era unethical scientists and secrets held somewhere, or he doesn't. It's logical.

It's not that I'm being sensitive. To be insensitive to a situation that will lead to millions of senseless deaths seems immoral to me. I am probably just talking the way I am because I feel obligated to point these things out.

There is, in my mind, a zero percent chance (through a few statements Trump made) that he isn't lying when he said that he knew it would be a pandemic the whole time.

Do you have a logical reason to point out why Trump would lie so excessively and unnecessarily when he still has plenty to prattle on about? The man LOVES to hear himself speak. He has SO MUCH to lie about. Lying about the virus being a hoax, when it's almost impossible for him to really believe that or think lying about that could *ever* be a good thing considering there was no guarantee it could be contained (IF IT WASN'T SOMETHING HE TOOK PART IN, that is, because ah, duh, he did it) .. and even IF it was INTENTIONALLY released you KNOW there's no guarantee it would be containable...

Either WAY you know that's an incredibly dangerous lie to make.

HE HAD TO MAKE THIS LIE TO COVER HIS PART IN ALL OF THIS.


There's great reason to believe in my mind that he knew EVEN IF IT WAS A ZOONOTIC ORIGIN, that he is just as guilty for LYING about it and not closing down ports of entry/the borders. I am SURE the videos of bodies were seen by the White House and that they were telling him it was real. I am SURE HE KNEW IN HIS SICK, SOCIOPATHIC BRAIN he knew it was real.

If anyone has any logical arguments to counter me I'd be all ears.
 
Hitler killed 6 million and had to face justice by eating his own gun to avoid a noose. How many MILLIONS of people will Trump have killed pretending to be a nationalist by the time November 2020 comes around by NOT CLOSING DOWN THE PORTS OF ENTRY?

I can't stand Trump but you're really gonna compare him to Hitler because he didn't close all ports of entry?
 
I can't stand Trump but you're really gonna compare him to Hitler because he didn't close all ports of entry?
I'm claiming he's a more intelligent evil genius because he's going to get away laughing about the millions of people he killed. The situation is a lot worse than people thought, I think. "Dementia", "Narcissist" are covers for the things he's doing.

Yes he should have done that. Of course he should have. Any REAL NATIONALIST would tell you this EVEN THOUGH I AM FINE WITH PEOPLE BELIEVING OTHERWISE.

Why build THE WALL if not for situations like this? Do you not get it? The wall isn't to keep "people" or viruses out. It's to keep certain races and income groups out of the nation. It's to stem off overpopulation.

I know the "comparisons to hitler" is like A RULE, but when it comes to "people who killed millions", I could use a different name, there's a list of terrible totalitarian leaders who did this. This is the comparison I was making.

You cannot sit there and claim you're a NATIONALIST and not do these things to protect the nation and its people. Trump has said very proudly that he's a NATIONALIST. It's a lie.

A very dangerous lie.

If I'm wrong you can censor my posts but why don't the journalists ask the right questions like, "WHY ARE YOU NOT AFRAID TO DIE, WHY WERE YOU IN DENIAL OF THE SEVERITY OF THIS SITUATION?" there is a reason, and the logical possibility that it was bravado or he's got dementia is a lot less likely.

It even amuses me that the white nationalists drink the kool aid and don't see the white internationalist conspiracy between him and Putin. Most white nationalists are fucking idiots though (and I'm not one, hence why I understand these things and don't think white people to be any smarter or better).
 
So France is on lockdown and the weather's nice... 😐. You have this little note you need to take with you and your ID if you go outside. You're allowed to solo exercise, get medical stuff, groceries, take your dog out and... That's about it. I'm in a small town and there hasn't been panic buying or anything and the grocery store is well stocked. The French seem to be quite good about solidarity in these trying times. The note and ID check thing are a little disconcerting, kinda echoes of a police state. With that said, I think it's the right move for the most part, still... Papers please? Is a bit scary.

What bugs me is that London is likely to be locked down similarly soon. Probably just before I've fully recovered and am ready to head out of self-quarantine again to go and help my Mum. She lives rurally and is probably really going to need some help.
 
im just glad that domestic travel in the US isn't shut down before my flight across the country tomorrow. im fully prepared to get stuck at my destination and certainly wouldn't complain, but it'll likely be at least 2 more weeks before the US gets hit with domestic travel restrictions
 
What bugs me is that London is likely to be locked down similarly soon. Probably just before I've fully recovered and am ready to head out of self-quarantine again to go and help my Mum. She lives rurally and is probably really going to need some help.
What are they going to do, hit you with a baton? I'm sure I'd risk it, I know how much I love my mom. I figure a lot of people will (I don't think people are so subservient to the state they'll let their loved ones struggle/die alone... most people are good people).

Honestly do what you have to, family is so important. I'm so sorry that you might not get to her. <3

Hope you're feeling better soon.
 
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What bugs me is that London is likely to be locked down similarly soon. Probably just before I've fully recovered and am ready to head out of self-quarantine again to go and help my Mum. She lives rurally and is probably really going to need some help.

I hear you and my little sister lives in LDN. But the question is, would you be contributing to the problem? Especially if you've been ill yourself...
 
im just glad that domestic travel in the US isn't shut down before my flight across the country tomorrow. im fully prepared to get stuck at my destination and certainly wouldn't complain, but it'll likely be at least 2 more weeks before the US gets hit with domestic travel restrictions
THEY AREN'T GOING to shut it down. It's already spread to enough people. Enough states. Planes have HEPA filters.

The industry needs the money, the people need the work, and Trump needs the re-election.

If it's shut down, it'll just hurt the economy more, frustrate a lot of people and disenfranchise the Republicans that donate money to him... I don't see it happening. We have rights. I don't think they can ban inter-state travel.

I hear you and my little sister lives in LDN. But the question is, would you be contributing to the problem? Especially if you've been ill yourself...

How aren't you contributing to the problem? You could, in theory, have the virus, spread it, and never show symptoms, and clear it before ever getting sick or sick to the degree that you would be inconvenienced by it.
In the US there aren't enough test kits and they push people back into the community even if they know they have covid-19. Nobody cares. Massive apathy over here.

"How many ventilators?" seems like a selfish, shallow question. "You call it the China virus that seems racist..." IDIOTS. Why not ask WHY HE'S NOT AFRAID OF DYING? DID THE US CREATE THIS VIRUS? IS THIS REALLY PREFERABLE TO NOT GOING TO WAR WITH IRAN LIKE YOU WERE ABOUT TO BUT CALLED OFF IN A MINUTE'S NOTICE?

He didn't call it off to be a PEACE HIPPIE DEMOCRAT BERNIE BRO. He did it because this is war. The words in the national script are telling you it's a war. Do you not get it? "We" can "afford" self-quarantining. Iran and their poor, terrorism-loving nation cannot.

I mean, if you guys don't get this, and don't get that Republicans are war-thirsty monsters that make me hating DPRK look like a peace-loving hippie you'll never get it. You never will.

If you can't fathom WHY men fight WARS, then you're a really good person, I do not blame you and stay true to yourself. The self-destructive part of an intelligent mind is something I wouldn't wish on anyone.

This is a more covert, less earth-destructive and terribly devastating war being waged against Iran for the sake of US and Israel and other states that would benefit from this in the region, and to fight terrorism. It is no coincidence this quickly spread to Iran and effected higher-up officials. Iran is no one's friend in the middle east and they're finally paying the price. It's sad that something better didn't happen. Maybe this is better and less human-lives-costing than what Trump was REALLY ABOUT to do earlier this year.

Iran knows it's game over and they're already digging mass graves for their own people, whether this works or not, we're not going to stop. I think it's wrong, and fucked up, but I'm sure that's what's going on. Individual geopolitical outcomes like this happen. You have to factor in history and the mindset of people.

Trump himself alluded to "alternative options" to traditional warfare. Technologically hacking computers in Iran, infiltrating their nuclear program was not enough, Iran would have gotten a nuclear device and blew Israel into dust. It would have happened, and we all know it (OR AT LEAST YOU CAN ADMIT THAT'S THE MINDSET OF PEOPLE LIKE TRUMP!)...
 
I hear you and my little sister lives in LDN. But the question is, would you be contributing to the problem? Especially if you've been ill yourself...

Once recovered, I'd be one of the few who isn't going to be at risk of spreading it, assuming you can't be easily reinfected.
 
What are they going to do, hit you with a baton? I'm sure I'd risk it, I know how much I love my mom. I figure a lot of people will (I don't think people are so subservient to the state they'll let their loved ones struggle/die alone... most people are good people).

Honestly do what you have to, family is so important. I'm so sorry that you might not get to her. <3

Hope you're feeling better soon.

I think they've been fining people in Italy and France. If they shut down public transport, I won't have any ability to travel though as I don't own a car.


 
THEY AREN'T GOING to shut it down. It's already spread to enough people. Enough states. Planes have HEPA filters.

The industry needs the money, the people need the work, and Trump needs the re-election.

If it's shut down, it'll just hurt the economy more, frustrate a lot of people and disenfranchise the Republicans that donate money to him... I don't see it happening. We have rights. I don't think they can ban inter-state travel.



How aren't you contributing to the problem? You could, in theory, have the virus, spread it, and never show symptoms, and clear it before ever getting sick or sick to the degree that you would be inconvenienced by it.
In the US there aren't enough test kits and they push people back into the community even if they know they have covid-19. Nobody cares. Massive apathy over here.

"How many ventilators?" seems like a selfish, shallow question. "You call it the China virus that seems racist..." IDIOTS. Why not ask WHY HE'S NOT AFRAID OF DYING? DID THE US CREATE THIS VIRUS? IS THIS REALLY PREFERABLE TO NOT GOING TO WAR WITH IRAN LIKE YOU WERE ABOUT TO BUT CALLED OFF IN A MINUTE'S NOTICE?

He didn't call it off to be a PEACE HIPPIE DEMOCRAT BERNIE BRO. He did it because this is war. The words in the national script are telling you it's a war. Do you not get it? "We" can "afford" self-quarantining. Iran and their poor, terrorism-loving nation cannot.

I mean, if you guys don't get this, and don't get that Republicans are war-thirsty monsters that make me hating DPRK look like a peace-loving hippie you'll never get it. You never will.

If you can't fathom WHY men fight WARS, then you're a really good person, I do not blame you and stay true to yourself. The self-destructive part of an intelligent mind is something I wouldn't wish on anyone.

The implication is that I don't have an intelligent mind. Slow your roll. I'm just saying it might not be the best idea for someone to visit their aging mother (asymptomatic or not) at this time (especially if they've previously been ill).
 
THEY AREN'T GOING to shut it down. It's already spread to enough people. Enough states. Planes have HEPA filters.

The industry needs the money, the people need the work, and Trump needs the re-election.

If it's shut down, it'll just hurt the economy more, frustrate a lot of people and disenfranchise the Republicans that donate money to him... I don't see it happening. We have rights. I don't think they can ban inter-state travel.


 
The consideration is a hoax too. Why "consider" it. That's a stupid fucking idea and you know it.

If he was going to shut down plane travel it'd happen a lot earlier.

And if he does it is to cover his complicity in the creation and dispersal of this virus.

Do you really think TRUMP is a man who can GIVE UP wanting to go to WAR WITH IRAN?

Do you really think that? Even if I don't want a war with Iran I KNOW TRUMP DOES and was SO ITCHING TO DO IT. That death wish doesn't fade overnight. This was just months ago with the Iran crisis...

And history will continue, people won't get it and nobody cares. A bunch of dead bodies in the ground, I guess I should stop caring...
 
I think they've been fining people in Italy and France. If they shut down public transport, I won't have any ability to travel though as I don't own a car.


just make sure you looksuitably feverish and have a cough, get into any passing car at the stop lights and cough a bit and magically you have your very own car...you will have to slide over to the other seat though to drive.

if you indeed have had nCOV be aware that you may still shed virus after you no longer have symptoms, which is another unknown amongst lots of other unknowns.

On a more general level get the hell out of London as soon as you can, property prices are insane there and the weather is rubbish.
 
You guys really shouldn't care if you have it or not, we have to build herd immunity thanks to Trump releasing it into the wild. Or paying people to, I don't care, this is for sure a US-led war against Iran.

It's to give Russia more land and we did it with Putin's wishes (WHY DO YOU THINK THEY REPORTED ZERO CASES SO EARLY ON...)

If you're "at risk" you definitely SHOULD CARE but I'm sure this self-quarantining is not going to work. It didn't work in China and Europe and the US seem equally idiotic for thinking of trying it.

The epitome of totalitarianism couldn't shut it down. We're living in an internationalist world. There's no turning course. Even DPRK "self-reliance on everything" philosophy doesn't work! FOR DPRK the most isolated nation on earth to have it = game over, it's a pandemic. They have the lowest HIV rates. This is not a coincidence but a result of nationalist isolationism practices.
 
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